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RogerRabbit
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Re: Easy "Soak and Simmer" WBS Prep [Re: monstermitch]
#6042514 - 09/08/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you prepare the grains properly, there is no reason to remove hot jars to shake. You should be able to let the PC cool overnight to room temperature, then have the grains completely loose in the jar with no shaking. Just turning a jar upside down should be enough to separate the kernels.
If not, you need to rinse the grains before preparing, and add gypsum when placing in the jars. Make sure the grains are dry on the outside(surface) when you load your jars. RR
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ghostofbmarley
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Re: Easy "Soak and Simmer" WBS Prep [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6043572 - 09/09/06 07:58 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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FMS WBS TEK---
It's gold, Jerry...Gold!
Is this in the permanent archive yet? If not here is a recommendation for it. This just works. Period.
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TheBadGuy
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: FooMan]
#6761305 - 04/08/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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for this method did you use an incubaotr? if so what kind?
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down44
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: TheBadGuy]
#6958283 - 05/23/07 07:35 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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best tek ever, can't recommend it enough definite archive material thanks again foo man
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luca1899
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: FooMan]
#9927609 - 03/07/09 10:48 AM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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want to try your wbs simmer tek because i do not have enough time to soak the wbs today. i wanted to soak because of endospore worries. i started soaking the wbs in hopes that my research would tell me it was ok to soak it less than 12 hours (maybe 10 hours i will ahve time for), but instead fund your tek! if i soak it for 10 hours, will there be anything different about the steeping? should i steep for less time because the seed is already on its way to saturaton and might burst? thank you
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CarolinaShroomer
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I have the WBS and Jars and all that can you use spore swab(cotton swab)shaken in the jars? its the only spores I have left of my Amazons....
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FooMan
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Making agar plates or syringes is your best bet. You should start a new thread for a question like this.
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CarolinaShroomer
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Re: Question [Re: FooMan]
#10086993 - 04/01/09 12:41 PM (15 years, 20 hours ago) |
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Thanks FooMan I only made one syringe and lost it on 8 jars of BRF. I will start a new thread, posing this question, Thanks again.
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Ok, im doing this tek, just found out im not going to have time to pc tonight but the wbs is already in the pot with the water is it going to be ok to leave the wbs soak in the water overnight? and pc tommorrow
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down44
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Re: Question [Re: down44]
#10545192 - 06/20/09 11:42 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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any help?
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Viruk
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: FooMan]
#15583812 - 12/28/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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My results using WBS with cracked corn. Removed boiling water from burner, added WBS with cracked corn. After 1 hour the cracked corn had all started turning to mush. PC'ing yieled jars with clumps of WBS that were like rock.
If you have cracked corn in your birdseed, this probably won't work for you.
I'm going to try out 30 mins soaking, and maybe 45, with the cracked corn WBS I currently have. Then I'll get some real WBS and try this out again for real. It's very fast and I want it to work.
**edit** 30 mins of soaking, and it came out the PC a little sticky, but you could break it up easy enough, and it looks like it will work great. 20-25 minutes probably would have been better for WBS with cracked corn. Definitely not an hour, that's just bad advice for any WBS, and had I left it to cool down, I'd have a pot full of paste.
Quick method otherwise, thanks foo man.
Edited by Viruk (12/29/11 04:21 PM)
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sprite
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: FooMan]
#17963157 - 03/16/13 02:27 AM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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After their is colonization, do you pour the wbs mix in a tub? I am confused on if it sticks together like the BRF cakes did. It wouldn't fit out. The foil in your pictures is whats throwing me off. I saw the foil with the BRF but with the WBS method I don't get that park. Thanks in advance!
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PussyFart
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: sprite]
#17963200 - 03/16/13 02:51 AM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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Yes, you shake up and separate every grain, then mix it in with your bulk substrate material in a monotub, trays, etc.
The foil is just to stop moisture from getting on the lids during sterilization.
After sterilization the foil comes off.
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Dr.Mind_BendEr
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: FooMan]
#18326912 - 05/27/13 07:55 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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FooMan
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Holy hell, I didn't realize this thread was still floating around. I have an updated version in my journal with minor tweaks. You definitely want to avoid cracked corn regardless of your WBS prep method.
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Dr.Mind_BendEr
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: FooMan]
#18326974 - 05/27/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can you use this same tek on Rye Grain?
Im doing WBS now, and with the amount of WBS im using simmering/boiling is out of the question, I know enough about seed through my profession to know that boiling it for 60sec isn't really doing shit compared to a 9 hour soak ( hydration wise) and any endospores left at this point WILL be killed by pressure cooking...
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b plus
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What cube strain is that at posted at the bottom of your tek? I love the slender stalks and large dome caps.
Edit: Posted at bottom of your tek..
Edited by b plus (05/27/13 08:48 AM)
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FooMan
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Quote:
Dr.Mind_BendEr said: Can you use this same tek on Rye Grain?
Im doing WBS now, and with the amount of WBS im using simmering/boiling is out of the question, I know enough about seed through my profession to know that boiling it for 60sec isn't really doing shit compared to a 9 hour soak ( hydration wise) and any endospores left at this point WILL be killed by pressure cooking...
Won't work on rye. I've tried it without success a few times. Rye needs to simmer to soak up the water since the grains are much larger. WBS hydrates much faster, but with my method the seeds aren't hydrated to full capacity during the steep. They are still pretty wet after the steep, rinse and drain, but that additional water is absorbed during sterilization so they fatten up even more. Any remaining water in your jars will be gone within a day or two IME.
Also, I don't buy into the soak to germinate endospores nonsense. We use pressure cookers because they get hot enough to kill heat tolerant endospores. If soaking germinated all of the endospores we wouldn't need a PC at all. If you feel the need to soak, soak to hydrate your grains, not to germinate endospores. IMO rinsing grains is more effective then soaking them as far as contaminants are concerned. Once the grains are ready for the PC, good filters and an adequate sterilization cycle (typically 90min @ 15psi) are the key to avoiding contaminants IME.
I've been using this same method, without a soak for almost 10 years now with a <1% contam rate regardless of the brand of WBS.
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vaneazy
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: FooMan]
#18443999 - 06/19/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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just posting so its in my threads, will do this with next batch, because fuck soaking for 24 hours lol
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imWhiteInMemphis
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Re: Foo Man's WBS Method [Re: vaneazy]
#18958028 - 10/10/13 05:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Seems legit, trying it out with 24 quart jars and 25# of wbs. Rinsed my wbs first to clean it some and put it all in a 5 gallon gatorade cooler and pouring boiling water in.
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