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OfflineMalachi
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revolutionary hip hop surge.
    #1832473 - 08/20/03 08:10 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sure you've all hear the new black eyed peas single "where is the love" with the great "we've got terrorists here in the USA the big CIA, the bloods the crypts and the KKK". (I would've made it the DEA) it's certaily strange to see a formerly somewhat underground "political" hip hop outfit go mainstream, but it's for a good cause... revolution!
the CIA bit, I'm assuming, is referencing COINTELPRO and the black panther murders.

anyway, "underground" rappers are popping up all over the place, dead prez had a track on the 2 fast 2 furious soundtrack and is doing songs with talib kweli and stephen marley. atmosphere/slug is breaking through. anyway, feast on this criticism of eminem for being too apolitical here

Everywhere the white man go he bring misery
All throughout history, look it up
Everything them bald heads touch they fuck it up
Every government he set up, it be corrupt

Revolution

Dead Prez, people Army, Steve Marley, Ghetto Youth Crew

What you know is who you are, who are you?
Do you know who you are in the world? What is your world view?
What do you go through?, what has your life showed you?
What are you learnin in this so called life?
Do you have principle or do you blow with the wind
Do you wanna be free but don't know where to begin
Do you know your enemy from your friend, even you can
It's deep in this scannin the system that keepin us here
Will we survive, do you believe, are we afraid
Would you rather have control of your life, or be a slave
Show me a sign, a pig ain't no homey of mine
They own me what's mine, I show you if you loan me your nine
I'm only concerned for tables to turn
When the people learn the truth about the system, the cities will burn
And I stand firm, like Chaka Zulu, these crackers can't stop you
Who you?

I throw a molotov cocktail at the precinct, you know how we think
Organize the hood under i ching banners
Red, black and green instead of gang bandanas
F.b.i. spyin on us through the radio antennas
And them hidden cameras in the streetlight watchin society
With no respect for the people's right to privacy
I'll take a slug for the cause like huey p.
While all you fake niggaz {*unnngh*} try to copy master p
I want to be free to live, able to have what i need to live
Bring the power back to the street, where the people live
We sick of workin for crumbs and fillin up the prisons
Dyin over money and relyin on religion for help
We do for self like ants in a colony
Organize the wealth into a socialist economy
A way of life based off the common need
And all my comrades is ready, we just spreadin the seed


word is bond.


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The ultimate meaning of our being can only be fulfilled in the paradoxical leap beyond the tragic-demonic frustration. It is a leap from our side, but it is the self-surrendering presence of the Ground of Being from the other side.
- Paul Tillich


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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: Malachi]
    #1832559 - 08/20/03 09:18 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Who cares.


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Invisibleluvdemshrooms
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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: shakta]
    #1832570 - 08/20/03 09:26 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Nicely put.

Hip - Hop & Rap are worse than opera. Of course the people who listen to it think they're bad-ass so watch what you say.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1832579 - 08/20/03 09:32 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I won't turn my gun sideways like an idiot, if they try to mess with me though. That is the stupidest shit.


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OfflineMalachi
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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1832580 - 08/20/03 09:32 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

yeah ok old white man, your opinion means less than nothing. how does it feel to be totally outside the realm of cool? what do child molesters fuck to? what do old men dance to? what do you bump in the trunk? lame.

I understand that someone with your cultural handicap must find it difficult to listen to black music before white people steal it.

the song that dead prez has on 2 fast 2 furious is another great song.. it's all about how to commit credit card fraud and rob white pizza boys.


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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: Malachi]
    #1832584 - 08/20/03 09:34 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

if they try to mess with you? riiight.

I don't think dead prez likes handgun anyway, they always talk about ak's and shit.


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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: Malachi]
    #1832586 - 08/20/03 09:35 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I dont see how you can compare opera and hip-hop. Opera requires musical talent to wirte and a very ranged voice to sing. Hip-hop requires a bandanna, some crack and some man to press a button every time you want a beat. I think they're on the opposite end of the musical spectrum


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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: Malachi]
    #1832595 - 08/20/03 09:39 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

That gangsta rap shit is for weak minded surburban punks that want to be ghetto. Get a life.


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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: Malachi]
    #1832623 - 08/20/03 09:51 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Get some sleep. Each insult you throw gets weaker and weaker.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1832627 - 08/20/03 09:52 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I hope they don't come after me with shit, cause that stuff stains and smells aweful.


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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #1832648 - 08/20/03 10:05 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

st0nedphucker said:
I dont see how you can compare opera and hip-hop.



Because I like neither?


Quote:

Opera requires musical talent to wirte and a very ranged voice to sing.



True enough.


Quote:

Hip-hop requires a bandanna, some crack and some man to press a button every time you want a beat.



Well, if you change crack to lots of crack and some Ripple, I'll agree.


Quote:

I think they're on the opposite end of the musical spectrum
Quote:


True. One sucks (opera) because I don't care for it, the other sucks because it's done by a bunch of no-talent hacks. Sadly, people are stupid enough to buy anything these days.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: Malachi]
    #1832900 - 08/20/03 11:59 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

That's a good song. BTW, what I find really funny is that older folks respond to hip-hop these days the same way conservative people hated rock music back in the 1950s. They can't understand it.


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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: ]
    #1832919 - 08/20/03 12:09 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I like some of it, but most of it is crap - I rate it with Brittany Spears' music for creativity. I like music that presents me with a sense of newness, not something that rehashes old melodies, is based on mechanical rhythms, or has predictable lyrics. Most of the Hip-Hop is formulized and that sucks.


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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: Autonomous]
    #1833251 - 08/20/03 01:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

No two people are the same so how can you bunch all rapper in a group.

Most americans are taught to believe what they hear and rap music
take advantage of that. Depressed or weaker minded people are easily
influenced. Hearing mostly negative music won't help problems.

I don't like the way material things (cars jewelry rims clothes) are
promoted in songs and videos and none of the rappers are gaining
anything from it. They just do it to look cool.

All rap is not bad and the song Black Eyed Pea sings/raps is a real good
song. I totally agree with it and it's message.

Where is the Love?


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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: Malachi]
    #1833296 - 08/20/03 02:01 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I don't like hip hop..


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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: whodi]
    #1833317 - 08/20/03 02:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

whodi said:
Where is the Love?





Next forum down...


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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: ]
    #1833393 - 08/20/03 02:27 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

That's a good song. BTW, what I find really funny is that older folks respond to hip-hop these days the same way conservative people hated rock music back in the 1950s. They can't understand it.





My wife listens to hip hop and she's the same age as I am. I like music that has instruments and talent. What i don't like aboot hip hop is that if they can't find a word that rymes with ahh lets say "child-support" they'll just make a word up. That takes no talent whatsoever.


Opera though highly annoying takes talent to do, country is far worse than all of them.


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Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights

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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: Malachi]
    #1833405 - 08/20/03 02:30 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Hahaha, they are in fake-indie label Interscope.

Not that Interscope doesn't have some decent bands, but it's funny when 'revolutionaries' sign to a corporate label.

Not as funny as Rage Against the Machine being on Sony, though

http://www.californiaaggie.com/_articles/7204.taf has a review of BEP's new record"

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By Doug Rutsch

Aggie Arts Editor

July 08, 2003 - For a short while, a debate raged in the rap community. Where did the Black Eyed Peas, and similar bands like Jurassic 5, rank among hip-hop fans? With danceable beats and unimposing lyrics, was it rap music for people who didn't like rap music? Or was it rap music for people who thought they were better than people who like mainstream rap?

The Black Eyed Peas' recent album Elephunk provides a definitive answer to that question, this is rap music for no one.






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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: ]
    #1833421 - 08/20/03 02:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I like Afroman, Sir-Mix-Alot, and KRS-1. I'm considered a geezer on this board, at the ripe old age of 33.

Rap was originally invented by white people, they just referred to it as square-dance calling.



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Re: revolutionary hip hop surge. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1833427 - 08/20/03 02:35 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

child-support



You mean "forky blort" doesn't count?


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