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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Malachi]
    #1833342 - 08/20/03 02:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

It was the Weimar Republic that banned guns in Germany, but that made it quite easy for gangs of nazis to bully people into submission.

Kristalnacht was perpetrated by goons armed with little more than clubs.

As for your civil war question, what are the sides goign to be?

You think PETA and black nationalists are going to get along?

Also, you say "pot people", which includes a hell of a lot of libertarians and conservatives. I really don't think legalizers like George Shultz, P.J. O'Rourke, and W.F. Buckley are going to sign up with PETA or Louis Farrakahn.

I'll fight for the republic, and I'll bet that my side has most of the guns and the training. That doesn't even count actual uniformed forces, either.


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1833358 - 08/20/03 02:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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join the rebels.




Who are the rebels? Nation of Islam? Aryan Nations? The Rainbow Family?

If it's any of those 3, or similar groups, I'm opening fire on them.



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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: wingnutx]
    #1833363 - 08/20/03 02:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

What about the N.O.W gals?


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1833380 - 08/20/03 02:26 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The 'Liberty Belles' and the 'Second Ammendment Sisters' will kick their goddamned ass.

The Pink Pistols will beat the crap out of Queer Nation.

And the libertarians of various stripes in NORML will simply turn to the hippy next to them and cap them in the melon :smile:


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1833406 - 08/20/03 02:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
What about the N.O.W gals?



You mean N.A.G. don't you?


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: wingnutx]
    #1833441 - 08/20/03 02:38 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

YAY!


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Autonomous]
    #1833444 - 08/20/03 02:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

That goes without saying!    :wink:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1833450 - 08/20/03 02:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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What about the N.O.W gals?




Their only problem is that they need to get laid, if we have just one brave soul to do this that group would be gone.


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1833457 - 08/20/03 02:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Even the really ugly ones?


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1833485 - 08/20/03 02:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

all of them? I'd better eat my wheaties.

Gloria Steinem was pretty hot back in the day. She was a Playboy Bunny.



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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1833897 - 08/20/03 04:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

They're all ugly...ok maybe just 99% of them


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: wingnutx]
    #1833907 - 08/20/03 04:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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wingnutx said:
Quote:

join the rebels.




Who are the rebels?




Why the ones who started the rebellion of course!


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Malachi]
    #1833980 - 08/20/03 04:49 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I think we were a hell of a lot closer to civil war in the sixties, and even then we were nowhere near anything serious happening.

The problem with america is, most of the radicals are in the educated classes, the poor are too busy just getting by, and haven't had enough education to really take any action within the system. Once the educated kids get married and get jobs they tend to become more concerned with providing the best possible environment for themselves and their children than with making the system better for everyone.



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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Malachi]
    #1834621 - 08/20/03 07:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

and if so, whose side would you be on? of course, if depends on the circumstances, but you can still give qualified replies. if the peta people + the pot people + the black nationalists teamed up, I could see some shit going down... and I'd be willing to overlook some ideological conflicts if it meant an end to the police state.

you're really testing my will to adhere to the no-flaming rules with this one.


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1834662 - 08/20/03 08:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Innvertigo said:
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Cornholio said:
Exactly. When conservatives dish out criticism, they consider it funny


Give an example if you don't mind.


Well, look at the response to many Ann Coulter articles, for example, which is nothing more than hateful liberal bashing.
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when liberals smash in windows and throw bricks at innocent people we find that to be a tad hateful.


I totally agree.  That's just plain wrong, but given the number of liberals in the country, I really don't think it's a very common occurance (is it?).
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Besides when someone starts a thread that says "I Hate GWB, I Hate Big Businesses, I Hate America (fill in a country of your liking) It's only makes sense that they are speaking from their heart.  Why hide from it?  Just admit the hate and we can move on from there.


Oh, if you're talking about hatred towards the policies of Bush and big business, I agree.  I thought you were talking about hatred towards fellow shroomerites.
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It's all just good debate so we can both hopefully learn something. I learn a ton here


A healthy debate doesn't have Hate in it.


I agree, there shouldn't be hatred directed towards fellow shroomerites.  But hating things like unnecessary war and corruption I think is normal.  :loveeyes:   


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Cornholio]
    #1835928 - 08/21/03 02:34 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Cornholio said:
Quote:

Innvertigo said:
Quote:

Cornholio said:
Exactly. When conservatives dish out criticism, they consider it funny


Give an example if you don't mind.


Well, look at the response to many Ann Coulter articles, for example, which is nothing more than hateful liberal bashing.
Quote:

when liberals smash in windows and throw bricks at innocent people we find that to be a tad hateful.


I totally agree.  That's just plain wrong, but given the number of liberals in the country, I really don't think it's a very common occurance (is it?).
Quote:

Besides when someone starts a thread that says "I Hate GWB, I Hate Big Businesses, I Hate America (fill in a country of your liking) It's only makes sense that they are speaking from their heart.  Why hide from it?  Just admit the hate and we can move on from there.


Oh, if you're talking about hatred towards the policies of Bush and big business, I agree.  I thought you were talking about hatred towards fellow shroomerites.
Quote:

It's all just good debate so we can both hopefully learn something. I learn a ton here


A healthy debate doesn't have Hate in it.


I agree, there shouldn't be hatred directed towards fellow shroomerites.  But hating things like unnecessary war and corruption I think is normal.  :loveeyes:     




I quoted this because i didn think it was long enough...

now all I have to to is post an oversimplified, uninformed opinion!
 


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Phluck]
    #1835938 - 08/21/03 02:40 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Phluck said:
I think we were a hell of a lot closer to civil war in the sixties, and even then we were nowhere near anything serious happening.

The problem with america is, most of the radicals are in the educated classes, the poor are too busy just getting by, and haven't had enough education to really take any action within the system. Once the educated kids get married and get jobs they tend to become more concerned with providing the best possible environment for themselves and their children than with making the system better for everyone.






perhaps if the poor didn't get the little bones of welfare and medicare thrown at them, they would be down for some guerilla warfare.

how about the aryan nation / milita types + the black nationalists + the illegals? then they could just split up the country. I'd go live with the illegals.


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Autonomous]
    #1836240 - 08/21/03 06:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Autonomous said:
Mr_Mushrooms, what do you think of the words spoken by James Garner (I think it was as Bret Maverick or maybe in 'Support Your Local Sheriff'), "He who doesn't fight and runs away, lives to run another day."


BTW, I do like what you posted on this subject. :thumbup:   




Thanks :laugh:

Obviously the quote is funny and truthful.  If a person likes to spend all of their time running I suppose that's ok for them.

Here's a funny story.

A few years ago I was the assistant EVC for the 19th congressional district for the NRA.  That's a guy who kicks the pro-gunners in the ass and gets them registered and voting. (I have since left the organization)

A piece of legislation came up in our town prohibiting hand guns.  I felt it was my duty to attend the Safety Forces committee and stand up for my right to defend myself.  Now, I knew the man was going to be there and it really isn't such a smart thing to do because taking a stand like that really exposes you. 

You could be harrassed by the police in many many ways.  This is a small town and I knew I was making myself a target.  I was very nervous so I wore my "I AM THE NRA" button and sat down at the table.

Here's the funny part.  The Captain of the police was so intimidated by me and my button he was actually stuttering and stammering after I explained my offical position and why I was there.  He offerred to work with me and draft the legislation together.  What I came up with was just a mirror of Ohio Revised Code so the net effect was that we didn't have any more gun rights taken away.

That is just one example of choosing to take a stand and fight rather than remaining silent or running away. 


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: ]
    #1836434 - 08/21/03 09:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I say, put all the pot heads on a train to Canada...please :smile:


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1836455 - 08/21/03 09:48 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I don't wanna go up there!


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