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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Malachi]
    #1832574 - 08/20/03 09:29 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, most hippies live underground with the mole-people where they are free from persecution


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Malachi]
    #1832600 - 08/20/03 09:41 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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uh... do you have extensive experience with hippies?




My aunt and uncle resemble that show Dharma and Greg. It's sickning.

Hippies, Peta people etc. feel they need to tell people how to live but get upset when others tell their lazy asses to get a job.


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1832635 - 08/20/03 09:56 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think the term 'hippies' really has much validity by this point; that's best used to describe a long extinct creature from the sixties.

"Hippies, Peta people etc. feel they need to tell people how to live but get upset when others tell their lazy asses to get a job."

Well, yeah, because they more than likely have a job, and get tired of some retart telling 'em to get something they already have. I've done protests and get the 'Get a job' remark yelled at me, which makes alot of sense on a Saturday when the person telling you that obviously isn't at work either.


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1832691 - 08/20/03 10:26 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't think the term 'hippies' really has much validity by this point; that's best used to describe a long extinct creature from the sixties.




You're right, those hippies had purpose and direction. Modern day hippies are a characture of themselves while standing on a pedestal of moral self righteousness.

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Well, yeah, because they more than likely have a job, and get tired of some retart telling 'em to get something they already have.




Yeah just like those that are more successful find it irratating that some loser that needs a shower is telling them that they are facist evil-doers because they don't support the the hippies/libbies points of view. A good example would be all of the Hate that is on this site.


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1832721 - 08/20/03 10:35 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

"Yeah just like those that are more successful find it irratating that some loser that needs a shower is telling them that they are facist evil-doers because they don't support the the hippies/libbies points of view. A good example would be all of the Hate that is on this site."

I don't think there's alot of actual hate here, maybe I'm wrong, just heated debate...even the most hard-assed Republican shroomer is welcome in my home, beer's in the fridge, help yourself :smile:




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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1832731 - 08/20/03 10:40 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't think there's alot of actual hate here, maybe I'm wrong, just heated debate




Oh, i think it's nothing but hate, it's sort of sad if you think aboot it. The hippies in the 60's were better at getting their points across w/o hate and violence like many of the protests that happen today. Hell, one just needs to look at the last Woodstock, fucking morons.

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even the most hard-assed Republican shroomer is welcome in my home, beer's in the fridge, help yourself




That's good to hear, Luvdemshrooms and I will be over around 8:00 pm.


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1832736 - 08/20/03 10:41 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Exactly.  When conservatives dish out criticism, they consider it funny, but when the liberals dish it out they consider it hateful.  It's all just good debate so we can both hopefully learn something.  I learn a ton here.  :stoned: 


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Cornholio]
    #1832756 - 08/20/03 10:54 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Exactly. When conservatives dish out criticism, they consider it funny




Give an example if you don't mind.

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but when the liberals dish it out they consider it hateful.




no, when liberals smash in windows and throw bricks at innocent people we find that to be a tad hateful. Besides when someone starts a thread that says "I Hate GWB, I Hate Big Businesses, I Hate America (fill in a country of your liking) It's only makes sense that they are speaking from their heart. Why hide from it? Just admit the hate and we can move on from there.

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It's all just good debate so we can both hopefully learn something. I learn a ton here




A healthy debate doesn't have Hate in it. Maybe liberals like to hate, who knows?


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1833125 - 08/20/03 01:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well two pages of nothing...


The revolution is here! will you....
defend the current administration.
join the rebels.
lay low...
Get my ass up to canada!




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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1833173 - 08/20/03 01:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Plus one post of even less. :smirk:


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1833178 - 08/20/03 01:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Tough choices.

I guess a lot depends on who a person sees as the enemy and how willing they are to lay down their life for what they believe in.

Personally I see the issue as a lack of courage. There may be a lack of intelligence these days. There may be a lack of morality these days. There is probably a lack of a lot of things.

But in my opinion it is the appalling lack of courage that is the most troublesome.

Us versus them.

Which side I am on?

Freedom. I want the freedom to live my life as I so choose with the minimum of interference from others.

Would I fight for my freedom?

Yes, and lose my life in the process if I had to. Remember, we will all die someday. So I guess you can live your life as a coward and die as one or you can live your life as a free man and take the consequences for your actions.

Each of us makes that choice everyday.


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: ]
    #1833185 - 08/20/03 01:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well put..


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1833189 - 08/20/03 01:31 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

no, when liberals smash in windows and throw bricks at innocent people we find that to be a tad hateful

well, since we're dealing with stereotypes....

when conservatives blow up abortion clinics and burn down black churches, I find that to be a tad hateful...

and btw, what does the last woodstock have anything to do with liberals?


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: ]
    #1833195 - 08/20/03 01:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Mr_Mushrooms said:
Freedom.  I want the freedom to live my life as I so choose with the minimum of interference from others. 




So d) then, ...move to canada? :laugh:

Why fight for such petty causes....yes you die anyway, but you won't be remembered for whatever conflict you loose yourlife to, so why not go live how you wisy, wherever you can?


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1833198 - 08/20/03 01:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Innvertigo said:
Plus one post of even less. :smirk: 




Oh, come now....its anonymous, so noone will know you'd move to canada.... :wink:


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1833217 - 08/20/03 01:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

"That's good to hear, Luvdemshrooms and I will be over around 8:00 pm."
Yeah, but what do I serve, I mean, does it have to be domestic?

I don't think anybody is going to get too far fighting the government, no matter how many firearms you possess, they have the means to put out a big crowd of people very quickly (BZ gas).



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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1833225 - 08/20/03 01:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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when conservatives blow up abortion clinics and burn down black churches




were those the same churches that turned out to be lit by those that attended those churches? or are these new ones? Oh and i'm not a conservative so it falls on deaf ears.

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I find that to be a tad hateful...




It's more than a tad hateful rather evil.

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what does the last woodstock have anything to do with liberals?




I was demonstrating the attitude of todays percieved "hippies" (ie: the violence, fires and general meyham)


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1833232 - 08/20/03 01:43 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I'd only move to Canada if i could live with you.


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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1833234 - 08/20/03 01:43 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, I have considered moving to Canada and am considering it. However, I am looking for a broad range of freedoms that I probably wouldn't be able to enjoy there.

And as far as fighting is concerned I weigh my options carefully and I do not fight needlessly. There is a difference between a brave man and a fool.

But it is also said that the man who only fights when he can win is either a coward or a bully and likely both.

In some sense we fight everyday. It is a manner in which we live. When you are in a group of people discussing some issue and a side is taken by the group that is wrong, do you remain silent and keep the peace at all costs? Or do you quietly state your case and take the abuse which might follow?

There are many ways to stand up for what you believe in.



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Re: is the USA headed for civil war? would you fight? [Re: ]
    #1833292 - 08/20/03 02:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Mr_Mushrooms, what do you think of the words spoken by James Garner (I think it was as Bret Maverick or maybe in 'Support Your Local Sheriff'), "He who doesn't fight and runs away, lives to run another day."


BTW, I do like what you posted on this subject. :thumbup: 


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