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CLIT
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: jerseyian]
#20457185 - 08/22/14 12:00 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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if it's for getting high is it more potent than peyote?
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jerseyian said: Bridgessi is an awesome mescaline cacti,, like peyote but much bigger.
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: CLIT]
#20457340 - 08/22/14 12:52 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lets keep this thread on the topic of Celastrus paniculatus and not about what's the best cactus to trip off.
Google can answer all of your questions. Failing that, post in the psychedelic experience forum.
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: karode13]
#20457389 - 08/22/14 01:13 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fo real
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: karode13]
#20457629 - 08/22/14 03:06 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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All right then, I was just anwering a question really. I hate when I ask something and I get ingored.
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: jerseyian] 1
#20458379 - 08/22/14 09:45 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fair enough and understand your point. My experience moderating here just led me to believe that more questions would follow, so I was taking preventative measures to keep things on topic. A little off topic chat is ok, but questions not relating to the thread topic are best asked in the appropriate places.
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: karode13]
#20459826 - 08/22/14 02:35 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had my seeds sitting in a drawer vacuum sealed and I guess some bugs started to use the seed bag as a breeding chamber, was not pleased. I tossed the whole bag in my freezer to kill em all and save the seed, haven't been taking them recently but been on a bit of a cleanse I guess.
Interested to see if anyone has luck germing them as I still haven't. Maybe I will try to germinate some of the seed from the freezer, I doubt these need winterization though
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: djmattz0r]
#20459917 - 08/22/14 02:51 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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djmattz0r said: Interested to see if anyone has luck germing them as I still haven't. Maybe I will try to germinate some of the seed from the freezer, I doubt these need winterization though
I thought the same thing at first, but then I read that Celastrus is from 1800m+ elevations in India. Then I looked up whether it snows in India and sure enough there are quite a few places that snow. Not surprising at the right elevations as it is pretty humid there. Most of the relatives of Celastrus paniculatus such as orbiculatus are deciduous so they're harsh winter enduring plants.
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: theMallacht]
#20502322 - 08/31/14 03:34 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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It would be really great if someone could find a live plant of this! I used these a long time ago, beginning at university. Really helped stay focused and no negative effects that I could notice, unlike most other "focus enhancers" out there.
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: karode13]
#20514213 - 09/03/14 12:33 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ah no problem brother, just speakin my part :-) I soaked the seeds and none sprouted again, yet... I am putting some in the freezer right now before I enter this post so I will not forget. 2-3 weeks I will try, then a month. Will yall posted.
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: theMallacht]
#20514236 - 09/03/14 12:37 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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AH HA! Knowing that they DO grow in a harsh environment gives me hope that freezing/vernilization will indeed work. Also do they sell the extract for this? I bought a shit ton of seeds but I cannot chew them every day, the taste is just rancid to me. Also I starting throwing up a few days later after taking them for 5 days... I DID notice an increase in energy, I was surprised as hell and happy. I deal with depression so these would awesome to take all the time.
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: theMallacht]
#20571272 - 09/15/14 04:00 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had started taking these couple months ago from a local supplier, twice every day, then I felt my second order wasn't as potent and it felt decreasingly so, to the point where I didn't bother anymore. Meanwhile I had ordered a big mean bag from India from the link in this thread, which took some 6 weeks and is finally here. These seem to be stronger than either my local batches. But really it's not as bad in taste as people make it, after a week of daily consumption you get used and even look forward to the taste, it's certainly nothing disgusting like HBWR. It's still as bitter as to make plain water taste very sweet though.
One thing I'm wondering: how should I store them? I'm wondering if my last batch went bad and/or lost potency. I just kept them inside the bag within a metal can, nothing very airtight. How do you guys keep these huge bags of seeds to consume over months? Do they just keep alright at room temp?
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: soundnvision]
#20571392 - 09/15/14 04:24 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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If the seeds are coming from outside of the country, there is a good chance that they are being treated or exposed to high levels of radiation thus being rendered unviable. I am guessing that the only way to propgate this plant is to start with a live cutting or rooted plant, grow it to seed and then harvest. Those seeds will be viable as long as they aren't radiated.
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: CLIT]
#20571647 - 09/15/14 05:28 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: theMallacht]
#20906877 - 11/30/14 01:22 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I tried to freeze the seeds after just trying to germinate them right out of the bag. Its called vernilization. They did not come up again. Next I will try a heat matt under neath of them? Says they grow high in the mountains so I cant see why they would sprout straight from the bag. Any Thoughts? I crushed the seeds and drank them in tee for several days. had mild anmethamene like affect. I am ordering the exctract next week because it a PAIN to crush 25 seeds every days. You cant eat them plain, they are DISSGUSTING!! Must be brewed in tea of some sort IME.
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" (Contest Addendum) [Re: theMallacht]
#21013767 - 12/22/14 07:10 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey there, Been using the extract for 2 weeks now. Wow the energy.
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: jerseyian]
#21014902 - 12/22/14 11:24 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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why can't a company make these in tea form considering it isn't scheduled? Are the seeds being used? So make hot cocoa with it. Can the leaves of this "intellect tree" be used as well to make teas?
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jerseyian said: I tried to freeze the seeds after just trying to germinate them right out of the bag. Its called vernilization. They did not come up again. Next I will try a heat matt under neath of them? Says they grow high in the mountains so I cant see why they would sprout straight from the bag. Any Thoughts? I crushed the seeds and drank them in tee for several days. had mild anmethamene like affect. I am ordering the exctract next week because it a PAIN to crush 25 seeds every days. You cant eat them plain, they are DISSGUSTING!! Must be brewed in tea of some sort IME.
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: CLIT]
#21090001 - 01/08/15 09:39 PM (9 years, 21 days ago) |
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Why not try the oil? I recently got some from a west coast vendor (Google "intellect oil"). It is much better than those gnarly seeds.
Not bad price wise, but they sell refills without the glass bottle and dropper for even cheaper. I think you have to email them for that though.
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: shmizzle]
#21092331 - 01/09/15 12:45 PM (9 years, 21 days ago) |
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Here is an interesting link that describes how to tissue culture C. paniculatus.
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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: fungus_tao]
#21303370 - 02/20/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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So I found supposedly 85% viable Celastrus paniculatus seed on a popular auction site, just fyi guys.

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Re: Celastrus paniculatus - "Intellect Tree" [Re: theMallacht]
#21303662 - 02/20/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Supposedly isn't too strong of a word. Are you going to give them a shot?
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