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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto] * 1
    #18252880 - 05/12/13 12:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

you can use the fruitbody to make a lc np, but lc's are sketchy in general which is y most of us prefer agar, when a sub is considered spent that means the mycelium has finished it's meal and is done producing mushrooms and by this time is very weak making it unsuitable as spawn so your best bet is to start fresh. you can however burry a pent sub outdoors and maybe get a few more fruits:thumbup:


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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: cronicr]
    #18278878 - 05/17/13 01:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, im sold on agar culture. So a week as gone by and my 8 cups are white where i shot the syringe, this means its ok but still a chance of getting contam, right?

I still dont know if im going to make the agar culture with brf or agar-agar, it seems its hard to find agar-agar here.

theres tons of info here that i've been reading, i didnt get what casing is.

I have cakes i break them and put them in a substract so they colonize to create more mushrooms? Kinda like grain spawn transfer?

Can this casing be done with the same mix(verm:brf) used to create the cakes? Or do i need to had soil and lime to it?

I've seen a video about pasteurizing would there be beneficial bacteria in the soil?

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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto] * 1
    #18279057 - 05/17/13 02:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

for spawning cakes to bulk you want something like straw or coir or manure, there's no or very little nutrition in soil. you just bring your bulk substrate to field capacity and load into jars and pasturize  i'll shoot ya a link in a second(casing is just a layer of non nutritious "soil" that helps to aid in pin development by giving you 99-100 percent humidity on the surface of your substrate, so we don't call bulk subs casings it's just confusing)


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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #18279075 - 05/17/13 02:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17897217#17897217:thumbup:
also if your gonna try the brf agar sub, just use 5 grams of brf and 16 cc's of water for every jar/ plate you intend to use and mix in a separate container and just pour enough in the bottom to give you a flat surface to work with, toss your lid on and pc for 20 minutes at 15 psi, give it a couple hours to cool


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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: cronicr]
    #18296941 - 05/21/13 08:23 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, my cakes are almost fully colonized (from what i can see outside), how do i know when they are fully colonized inside? It will make 15 days after inoculation on 25th. Now thats almost fully colonized the cups are showing water is this normal? High chance of contam?

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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto] * 1
    #18297004 - 05/21/13 08:41 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Water is completely normal, nothing to worry about. Fully colonized means nothing but white on all visible sides.

Make sure once when you hit this point you wait 1+ weeks to birth, otherwise you'll be in for a disappointing yield.


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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: kocoon]
    #18299808 - 05/21/13 05:58 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You mean, after fully colonized wait 1 week and then take them out of the cups?

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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto] * 1
    #18299896 - 05/21/13 06:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yes


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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: kocoon] * 1
    #18299906 - 05/21/13 06:18 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

when your using proper jars or glasses(like you have) if the outside is colonized so is the inside as it's the same distance from top to bottom/side to side.


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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #18299993 - 05/21/13 06:41 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If you birth early you're gonna end up waiting that extra week for pins and yields will suffer


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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #18299998 - 05/21/13 06:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Not gonna lie bro i just made up my jars and sat them in a pot of water brought the water to a boil and then lowered the heat till it was just still boiling and put a lit over it which didnt even properly fit and my cakes are thriving. You wanna be thorough but dont over think things it will all work out. ( this was also my first time growing) :goodluck:

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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Tee10] * 1
    #18300016 - 05/21/13 06:44 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I also waited a week for MOST of my cakes after full colonization but some of them had already grown long thin mushies inside the jars so i posted pics and asked questions and found out i could birth those early (which i did) and they are also doing fine

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    #18305967 - 05/22/13 07:56 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Im chillin, i just have doubts which the resolve will make me understand why is all this processes needed and ofc bring peace to my mind. Im also doing this on my bedroom will the CO2 kill me?

I thought i should start thinking how am i going to do the fruiting chamber, perlite its kinda hard to get here is there other ways to do this? I saw a chamber with a air pump and a mistifier but the guy was using perlite too.

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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto]
    #18306034 - 05/22/13 08:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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...... :facepalm3:


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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: kocoon]
    #18307877 - 05/23/13 05:39 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

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will the CO2 kill me?




...... :facepalm3:




kk, i would have to get the room full of mushrooms to get suffocated by CO2.

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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto]
    #18308418 - 05/23/13 09:31 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

For you FC u can use paper towels, but you'd have to replace them almost every day. Perlite is pretty crucial. It's also pretty common, I don't think a garden center could call themselves one without it


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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: kocoon]
    #18349684 - 05/31/13 03:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

whats the most eficient fruiting chamber out there? i've seen a few FC, some had many small holes others 2 to 4 big holes with polyfill, a big chamber is better then a small one? For mushrooms development, humidity consistency.

I have a 40x32 and a 75x33 container for 8 wisky cup cakes

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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto]
    #18363881 - 06/03/13 06:23 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

They seemed fully colonized from the outside so i waited a week and birth them yesterday. They dont seem fully colonized i should've waited more time no?




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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: Terramoto] * 1
    #18363890 - 06/03/13 06:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

dunk and roll:thumbup:


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Re: First time growing shrooms [Re: cronicr]
    #18376529 - 06/06/13 06:53 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Is this pinning or overlay? They're growing from diferent spots.

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