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Offlinecandyraver
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age and potency
    #1829991 - 08/19/03 04:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

what is the difference in potency if a friend eats a mushroom early or if she waits a few days for it too fully mature?
the mushrooms are large but are not full grown and my friend wants to pick them with the rest of her flush
will their potency increase if she wait a few days?


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Re: age and potency [Re: candyraver]
    #1830001 - 08/19/03 04:05 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

potentcy will be the same but the mushrooms weight will be more :smile:


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Re: age and potency [Re: candyraver]
    #1830004 - 08/19/03 04:05 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

No. The potency won't increase, you will just have more. So you would have more to take with the same amount of potency generally. This assumes you mean fully mature as in, the veil has just torn or is about to. If you go farther than that they are less potent.


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Re: age and potency [Re: shakta]
    #1830050 - 08/19/03 04:18 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Since the original question came from a newbie, I think it's important to explain the term 'potency'. Potency can be expressed as the amount of alkaloid (the drug you're after) per amount of mushroom. It's generally agreed, though it's the subject of some contention, that cubensis mushrooms stop producing alkaloids at about the time the veil breaks. The mushrooms continue to grow, but they don't make any more alkaloids. So, the effective potency drops after the veil breaks.

Eating a mushroom when the veil breaks will give you the same trip as if you waited for it to get much bigger. When it's bigger, you have more to eat, but each bite is less potent and the net effect is the same.

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Re: age and potency [Re: Diploid]
    #1830477 - 08/19/03 05:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone got a link to some results where shrooms before and after veil breakage were compared? I've heard it mentioned many times over the years but not once seen the actual results of any tests.


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Re: age and potency [Re: Tremor1127]
    #1830545 - 08/19/03 06:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

yes.


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Re: age and potency [Re: Sorted]
    #1830583 - 08/19/03 06:18 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Anyone got a link to some results where shrooms before and after veil breakage were compared? I've heard it mentioned many times over the years but not once seen the actual results of any tests.



Neither has my friend. Until he sees some empirical evidence proving that alkaloid production ceases when the veil tears, he's going to keep growing these fuckers as big as possible.  :grin: 


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Re: age and potency [Re: Sorted]
    #1830656 - 08/19/03 06:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Anyone got a link to some results where shrooms before and after veil breakage were compared? 




There aren't any controlled, objective studies on this topic that I know of.  All I've heard was anecdotal evidence and my own admittedly biased and unobjective trips.  This is why it's such a contentious issue.  For what it's worth, I think they do stop or at least slow down alkaloid production right about the time the cap opens and the veil breaks, and that's when I harvest them.  Your mileage may vary...  :tongue:

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Re: age and potency [Re: Tremor1127]
    #1830674 - 08/19/03 06:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You have to remember that sometimes the veil may not tear off completely, and in Malabars the veils almost always stay on till they're mature. I usually go by how open the cap is rather than the stage of veil breakage.


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Re: age and potency [Re: soochi]
    #1832990 - 08/20/03 12:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Isn't that why people love to buy closed cap mushies? You have same potency but have to pay for the weight. The most potent shrooms I ever ate were tiny as hell. I ate 5 and tripped hard, like acid, all intense, but colorful!


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Re: age and potency [Re: fungulus]
    #1833066 - 08/20/03 01:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

that's how I would get them. Well, not completely closed, but veil still attached.


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