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Mufungo
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Cactus ID - Is this a Trichocereus santaensis?
#18282223 - 05/18/13 03:28 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Checking for a friend. Is this a Trichocereus santaensis?
Very beautiful!
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Re: Cactus ID - Is this a Trichocereus santaensis? [Re: Mufungo]
#18283183 - 05/18/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey, nice cactus! 
never heard of that species but I found this on a trichocereus key
B76 Body: Erect, dark green to over 10' (3m.) high. Stem to 3.1" (8cm.) diameter. Ribs: ~16-17, fairly low and narrow with transverse depressions present also on the flanks. Areoles/Spines: Around 8 spines, most extend sideways and forwards, barely overtopping the rib. Some more central, more clearly porrect. Spines needle-like, ,yellowish to horn-colored. Flowers/Fruit: Large, numerous flowers, slightly creamy to white. Fruit oblong, green, 2x1.6" (5x4cm.). Distribution: Origin unknown, described specimen originally in the Faust collection at Blanes, Spain but no longer there. Trichocereus santaensis
if this key is correct then yours doesn't have enough ribs but this key also says 20-38 ribs for peruvian so I'm calling bs lol
/Agurell 69.2 Body: More or less club-shaped, occasionally has a few branches from the base, from 3.2' (1m.) to 33' (10m.) high and 12" (30cm.) wide at the top. Spineless at base when older. Ribs: 20-38 low, .75" (2cm.) high. Areoles/Spines: Areoles large, near to each other, sometimes touching. On young plants the spines are numerous, yellow, stiff, tapering to a fine point and variable size up to 5.5" (14cm.). On older, particularly flowering plants they are yellow or white, elongated, flexible, sometimes bristle-like from 4" (10cm.) to 4.75" (12cm.) long. Flowers/Fruit: Flowers to 4" (10cm.) long. Fruit globular, about 1.2" diameter, said to be edible, called pasacana. Distribution: High plains and valleys of Bolivia and northern Argentina. Trichocereus peruvianus
not sure what you have there... maybe macrogonus x peruviana... no idea really. Looks like it could be peruvianoid to me but it seems like the more I see the less I know
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Re: Cactus ID - Is this a Trichocereus santaensis? [Re: Sse]
#18283569 - 05/18/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice looking cactus!
To me it looks like a T.peruvianus but I may be wrong.
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Re: Cactus ID - Is this a Trichocereus santaensis? [Re: Sse]
#18283591 - 05/18/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey thanks 
I think T./E. santaensis is set apart by its red spines, particularly on the new growth. Other trichs such as peruvianus and bridg have yellow spines, particularly on the new growth. I don't think it would be the ones you've suggested, mainly because the one in my pic doesn't have yellow spines.
Here's some pics that gave me the idea that it might be santaensis... http://www.flickr.com/photos/msscacti/sets/72157600838005252/
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Re: Cactus ID - Is this a Trichocereus santaensis? [Re: Mufungo]
#18284046 - 05/18/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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peruviana can have black to red spines too when they are more yellow it is usually a sign of cuzco
definitely have a peruvian look to it. that one in your link has a sort of pachanoi shape. The description they have with the photo, "T. santaensis is likely just a variation of the Ecuadorian and Peruvian T. pachanoi. These plants may be collection hybrids if grown from seed."
I'm not sure what the Ecuadorian or Peruvian pachanoi look like or if they mean pach x peruvian...
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Re: Cactus ID - Is this a Trichocereus santaensis? [Re: Sse]
#18285520 - 05/18/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey can someone identify this cactus for me?
It's a small cutting I bought about 4 inches tall with a diameter of about an inch. I bought it thinking it was a T.macrogonus, but now I'm not so sure.



This cactus all I know is when I bought it it was listed as a Japanese.sp cactus. Me being here in S.Korea it gets kind of hard when you have to translate everything from Korean to English only to find out that it says Japanese species.


This is it flowering.

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Re: Cactus ID - Is this a Trichocereus santaensis? [Re: paulxtroy]
#18285719 - 05/18/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would say it is macrogonus it may be in low light conditions not making its characterisitics as pronounced.
Your second one looks like turbinicarpus macrochele but I am very unfamiliar with that genus.
nice cacti I would love to start growing some turbinicarpus
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"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions." -Thich Nhat Hanh instant "Experience always goes beyond ideas"
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Re: Cactus ID - Is this a Trichocereus santaensis? [Re: Sse]
#18285913 - 05/18/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I read somewhere that its possibly active. Anyone have experience with this cactus? Also that its on the endangered list. Is this true and how much are they worth?
You should Sse. Its an amazing cactus. It flowered twice this season. Only lasted for a day,but that's the true beauty in it. The way the spines grow,(on mine) makes it look like a little Medusa's head!
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Re: Cactus ID - Is this a Trichocereus santaensis? [Re: paulxtroy]
#18286321 - 05/19/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Welcome paulxtroy. Please start a new thread if you need an ID rather than tagging on to the end of a fellow posters own ID thread.
Your 2nd cactus is a Turbinicarpus sp. The dominant alkaloids in turbs is Hordenine. Mescaline is either present in a very low %, or just trace amounts.
This is a good site for further info on turbs http://www.mfaint.demon.co.uk/cactus/turbo/alkaloids.html
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Re: Cactus ID - Is this a Trichocereus santaensis? [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
#18286372 - 05/19/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the welcome. Sorry still trying to learn everything about this site. I'll keep that in mind now that you mentioned it.
Thanks for the link.
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