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Cereus graft (process and outcome).
    #1825939 - 08/18/03 01:57 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

So I bought this Cereus peruvianus one day just for shits and giggles. It didn't show any signs of growth for a very long time, just recently i noticed new growth so i seized the opportunity to butcher it.

The process


Bevelling the ribs:



A little uneven:




Fixed it:




Damn quill stuck in my finger


ouch


Cutting a thin strip off and leaving in place:




Harvested baby:




Placement and removing air bubbles





Finished:
Taped up with a spongue to hold it down.




Two weeks after removal of sponge and tape.




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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). [Re: neuro]
    #1826068 - 08/18/03 02:25 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

good job neuro!!!
these guys grow like shit over here, i'm gonna try to use one as a rootstock once!


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: felixhigh]
    #2003590 - 10/12/03 11:01 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)





I know the pic sucks but it's an update, so From two weeks after august 18th til now it's grown as much as can be discerned from the pic. I know it's shitty. I'm gonna play with lighting tomorrow and maybe try to take it outside and snap some pics for better clarity.


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: neuro]
    #2003738 - 10/12/03 11:54 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

hell yeah nuero, thats a nice graft :grin:.  i think i have some pics from a blue myrtle graft...its insane the growth rate increase:)


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: neuro]
    #2003752 - 10/12/03 11:58 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

congrats, looks like it picked!!!


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: neuro]
    #2004361 - 10/13/03 03:24 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

it looks like it's doing fine, well done! :cool:


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: neuro]
    #2004822 - 10/13/03 11:30 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

how old was that baby? it looks pretty damn young.


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: mile69]
    #2004892 - 10/13/03 12:17 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

it is also interesting to notice how different cereus peruvianus can be.
some are 'trich' fat, i mean, broad ribs, fat body, while others have really sknny ribs no matter how much water it absorbs...
neuro's look like of the fatter ones but in the end, both must be good for grafting purposes.


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: mile69]
    #2004960 - 10/13/03 12:50 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

the seedling was several months old when grafted..

and it's now encroaching on the three month mark for the date of the actual graft.


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: neuro]
    #2005042 - 10/13/03 01:31 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

you are lucky the scion didn't rot off. Look at the black tissue on the cut surfaces that's infection.

You either didn't sterilise your knife well or you cut through a blemish in the skin of the stock plant.

Only cut through healthy green tissue, scars and scabs often contain bacteria or fungi that quickly settle in the freshly cut surface (often within 24-48 hours).

I've thought about dusting the wounds immeditatly after grafting with activated charcoal to prevent this. It will probably work but give a huge mess...


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: Una]
    #2005204 - 10/13/03 02:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i was thinking about the black parts too, i've never seen them on first hand but if neuro did that i thought myself he did know what he was doing. :wink:
after i graft or take cuttings i always place a folded paper towel over the cuts so that it sucks some water from the cactus flesh (and then remove of course, before it gets attached), it's nothing critical but can't be bad and should help to avoid infections.

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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: Una]
    #2005863 - 10/13/03 06:38 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

If it's truly infection then my suspect is sterilizing the razor well enough.

The area was completely healthy that i had cut through, no blemishes no nothing.

The area now is mush-free and the black is completely hard and does not exihibit any other signs of disease. It seems only the outtermost area has the black and my suspsicions are that the sponge i used caused the black, be it infection or other.

The area around the scion is black free and it hasn't advanced to other healthier looking areas of the cactus than where the sponge had direct contact. I suspect it's just the way in which it happened to callous over, combination of the sponge, being in the kitchen and the cactus itself.


I was considering dusting with anhydrous CuSO4 or burning some elemental sulfur didn't have any CuSO4 though and i didn't bother burning the sulfur. The scion is very healthy at this point and so is the cactus.


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: neuro]
    #2006536 - 10/13/03 10:46 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

examining better your picture now, perhaps you've used too big of a sponge and it might have created good conditions for rotting and crap proliferation...

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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: felixhigh]
    #2006728 - 10/13/03 11:42 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'm sure it had...

but a good real life inspection if you see it's just the area that calloused that turned the darkest, but doesn't/didn't have any other characteristics of infection.


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: neuro]
    #2009908 - 10/14/03 11:47 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I had the same when I tried the sponge. 
It's more airtight as it looks, and also  made me think I could press more beacause of it's "softness".





     


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: Agarico]
    #2009985 - 10/15/03 12:05 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i think the growth is gonna slow for now cause conditions are getting conducive to dormancy, so i'll expect new growth to start again next summer.

I'll take monthly pics to see if there is a comparitive difference in size over the dormant months.


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: neuro]
    #2925287 - 07/25/04 04:46 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry to drudge up an old post... but do you still have this plant, neuro?


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: neuro]
    #2925338 - 07/25/04 05:33 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

what was the purpose of the beveling?


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: Eightball]
    #2925383 - 07/25/04 07:04 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So that once the cactus dries up and starts to calous that the ribs don't point upward and push the graft off.


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Re: Cereus graft (process and outcome). Update [Re: Gumby]
    #2926006 - 07/25/04 03:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i thought i made a post somewhere, but i guess i didn't or i commented on the condition of this cactus in another post.

Anyway, the scion broke off, i came home one night to find out that the guy that lives downstairs from me knocked the cactus off our shared deck and the scion broke off, after five minutes of searching i found the scion, it was the size of a quarter, i calloused the wound, dusted with IAA and now roots are starting to form in the peyo flat, it's been returned to it's brothers and sister ;-).


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