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Monotub slowed down colonizing, too wet and a to big top layer (pic).
    #18256595 - 05/13/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

4/20 I spawned this monotub. Now 3 weeks later it still hasn't reached 100%. Spawned:Bulk = 1:2. Rye to verm/coir/gypsum. My guess it is too wet because a dryer tub I made colonized within 2 weeks. Also I did use a 'frosting layer' of substrate when spawning (about 1cm).


This is what it looks like now:


I already drained excess water with a small hole in the bottom of the tub.

Now I was wondering what my best option was. Just give it more time? Drain more water somehow? Fruit and hope for the best?

Thanks in advance shroomery!


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Re: Monotub slowed down colonizing, too wet and a to big top layer (pic). [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #18256699 - 05/13/13 08:28 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

I used proper pasteurization (Frank). Just gave it a sniff and didn't smell any bad thing happening in there. Just the accumulated stale air.

I will just give it some more time. My guess it went bad because of slightly too wet substrate + dunking my grains + the top layer.

Mono tubs are harder than I thought :P

Thanks a lot for your elaborate answer!


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Re: Monotub slowed down colonizing, too wet and a to big top layer (pic). [Re: SpaceVox]
    #18256733 - 05/13/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Ow and after rereading your comment I didn't use grain as a frosting layer but coir/verm.


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Re: Monotub slowed down colonizing, too wet and a to big top layer (pic). [Re: SpaceVox]
    #18256743 - 05/13/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

I will add one hole with polyfill (very tight)


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Re: Monotub slowed down colonizing, too wet and a to big top layer (pic). [Re: SpaceVox]
    #18256771 - 05/13/13 08:50 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

I just added one hole. Just one because it seems I have alot of moving air in my house. Another tub is bruising near the tight holes even without a fan running.

And you sir are awesome for taking the time to help me out like this!


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Re: Monotub slowed down colonizing, too wet and a to big top layer (pic). [Re: veda_sticks]
    #18286763 - 05/19/13 07:01 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

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veda_sticks said:
coincedently i have 2 tubs which were spawned a day apart. the tub with holes taped up with micropore colinised in 10 days.

The other tub that had no holes in it (to test out that the imperfect fitting lid providing enough gas exchange out) is not even 50% colinsed and my other tub has been in fruiting for a few days now.

Its multispore so could just be coincedence, i have cracked the lid a couple of times over the last few days but its not seemed to speed up any.

Sorry its not really another suggestion just thought id share my experience with some form of gas exchange through the holes rather than nothing at all and relying on the lid not forming a perfect seal.

Multispore can play a big role, maybe sometimes you just get some ginetics that arnt so tolerent of co2




After adding the polyfill in one of the holes it seems colonizing slightly faster, but it hard to know for sure.


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Re: Monotub slowed down colonizing, too wet and a to big top layer (pic). [Re: xaylon420]
    #18286908 - 05/19/13 08:06 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

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i didn't read this entire thread however i know sometime's a tub seals too tight and doesn't allow enough ge. that's why some ppl tape the bottom holes and then pack the top holes VERY TIGHTLY during this phase. i think it was "citric"? don't hold me to it, but i saw pictures of tubs stacked and it explained this way. personally i haven't had a problem with just taping mine up, but it COULD be an issue. check your seals, just food for thought. :wink:




I used 2 identical tubs (not stacked on each other). One of them colonized just fine. Only difference was water content. But then again it was a MS :wink:


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Re: Monotub slowed down colonizing, too wet and a to big top layer (pic). [Re: veda_sticks]
    #18286922 - 05/19/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

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veda_sticks said:
yeah i think the tubs i have at the moment just happen to be very well made and the lids make a good seal. they certaiinly pop on very tightly.

Not like my SAB tub which lid never sits on the tub properly due to warped plastic (plastics thinner aswell compare to my mono tubs)

yeah that could be your issue aswell moisture content will definatly effect colinisation speed especially if it was on either end of being too dry or to wet, a little to dry or a little to wet doesnt seem to be much of a problem but its its way off then its obviously bad.




I think I just need a lot of experimentation :smile:

Thanks for the input veda!


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Re: Monotub slowed down colonizing, too wet and a to big top layer (pic). [Re: xaylon420]
    #18291590 - 05/20/13 08:36 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Fruited it today. It smells good and I think I spotted some knots. I will post pics as soon as something happens. Also making a new tub tomorrow without the top layer :wink:


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Re: Monotub slowed down colonizing, too wet and a to big top layer (pic). [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18308600 - 05/23/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

5/20 I fruited it. With the help of frank I finally got my tub dialed in. And now I see the first mini pins forming. I took some time but I might pull this one off :smile:

Will post pics as soon.


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