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Re: Monotub slowed down colonizing, too wet and a to big top layer (pic). [Re: SpaceVox]
    #18256677 - 05/13/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Can you give that sucker a sniff?

If you can and it smells like gym shoes it is likely hit with bacteria.

If it smells fresh  and mushroomy it is probably fine. I would suspect the former rather than the later considering the fact it isn't finished colonizing and has taken so long,.

There is the possibility it is the genetics are just very slow also but I wouldn't put as much stock in that. 

The issue with the water shouldn't be that big of a deal with a mono because if there is a little too much the substrate will drain and the water will leak out under the liner. The mycelium will also push the water it doesn't need away after the rest has drained as it grows which also helps balance the moisture out.

Don't get me wrong though it is definitely better to start out at field capacity than over saturated but it happens and usually sorts itself out during colonization. 

If it is taking that long there may have been an issue with the pasteurization process or the grain.

DId you use the bucket tek? Sometimes this can bite you in the butt if you don't do it correctly.

If the heat cools too fast or the water raises the temp of the sub too much for too long you can end up with issues.

It is more likely the coir than the grain, if it had been the grain it would probably have gone green by now and that frosting layer wouldn't look so healthy.

In the future you are better off not adding a frosting layer.

They tend to open a small vector for contamination due to the grains being exposed to open air.

If any of them are broken and have any areas that are not colonized you are introducing unsterile food for bacteria or mold to the environment by frosting it...


If it does have a little bacteria it might still make it. Sometimes the myc will overrun it and chew through it and fruit anyway. Sometimes the opposite will happen,

Given these factors I would recommend being patient and hoping for the best.

May the Shroom Gods be with you! :shitstorm:


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Re: Monotub slowed down colonizing, too wet and a to big top layer (pic). [Re: SpaceVox]
    #18256720 - 05/13/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

You are welcome.

I also noticed another thing... Do you have your holes taped shut?

If so that may be an issue. Sometimes a tub will take a little longer to colonize if it is taped off due to the higher CO2 levels.

I have actually even seen them contaminate in with taped off holes but the tub was also in a black trash bag at the time.

It was a long time ago, :lol:

Mushroom mycelium uses O2 to breath....

You can always colonize them with the holes plugged tightly instead of taped to eliminate the high CO2 situation.

With that set up the polyfil will wick fresh gases into the tub which will help with mycelial growth.

I hadn't realized you dunked your grains. That is not really necessary.

It is good to hear that it smells good.

I would be willing to wager that tub will pull through given that fact.

Now it is just a waiting game.


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Re: Monotub slowed down colonizing, too wet and a to big top layer (pic). [Re: SpaceVox]
    #18256755 - 05/13/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

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Ow and after rereading your comment I didn't use grain as a frosting layer but coir/verm.





Oh, I see. I thought you were referring to grain because that is what we used to refer to as a 'frosting layer'.

You do want a layer of sub on top of the last layer of grain. That you definitely did correctly. :thumbup:

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I will add one hole with polyfill (very tight)




2 may be even better. :smile:

With two holes the wicking action will be much greater.

Think of it like this...

What happens if someone smokes in a room with 1 window open?

Not much of the smoke escapes.

WHat happens if you open a second window?

Now a current of air escapes and takes all the smoke out with it.

If you are worried about the polyfil allowing contams to enter that won't happen.

The Polyfil provides a tight enough filter to keep a pasteurized sub clean enough to colonize.


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Re: Monotub slowed down colonizing, too wet and a to big top layer (pic). [Re: SpaceVox]
    #18256880 - 05/13/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds like a much better situation than no holes at all. :thumbup:

I'll kep my eye out for the thread. Keep me updated on your progress. :smile:


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