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Offlinepdinca
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Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS)
    #1822894 - 08/17/03 01:46 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)


I am having trouble with growth after the pinhead forms. The first picture is day 5 after formation. The second picture is 2 weeks into it. When it is cut open the inside is very brown. Thanks for any help.
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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow. [Re: pdinca]
    #1822910 - 08/17/03 01:52 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

If it's brown inside, it sounds like it's begun to rot... it's almost as if you're getting thousands of aborts :sad: , although IME they are the most potent :grin: 

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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow. [Re: OJK]
    #1822917 - 08/17/03 01:55 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

What does "IME" mean?

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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow. [Re: pdinca]
    #1822932 - 08/17/03 02:01 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

In my experiance

IMO = in my opinion

IMG = in my garage

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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow. [Re: OJK]
    #1822938 - 08/17/03 02:02 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

what about IMHO
In my humble opinion?
Im my Honest opinion?

Oh yean and pdinca...what are your growth paramaters right now?


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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow. [Re: GregHimself]
    #1822942 - 08/17/03 02:03 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

In my homeosexualbitch's opinion :grin:

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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow. [Re: OJK]
    #1822947 - 08/17/03 02:04 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

that would be imhbo


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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow. [Re: GregHimself]
    #1822971 - 08/17/03 02:10 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

The Odium junkie spells it as one word :razz: 

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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: pdinca]
    #1823184 - 08/17/03 03:09 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

try fanning a lot. and give it water. when my mushrooms abort, it's usually cause they're running out of water supply, and need rehydration. water is 90% of the mushrooms right? the pinsset is nice, too :laugh:

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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: pdinca]
    #1823222 - 08/17/03 03:20 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, fanning is your friend. notice how the pins have mycelium growing up them? Looks like your humidity is a bit on the high side, bring it down. Also, make sure the casing isn't too wet, this will cause aborts and intro contams.


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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: soochi]
    #1823225 - 08/17/03 03:22 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

What do you mean by "fanning"

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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: pdinca]
    #1823300 - 08/17/03 03:47 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

how many hours of light do you have on them, constant light would be a reason for your little growth. try one hour of light with 23 dark that should do it


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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: ZippoZ]
    #1823310 - 08/17/03 03:49 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

12 on -- 12 off, but I think my roommate goes in there at night and turns on the light. will this harm them?

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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: pdinca]
    #1823319 - 08/17/03 03:50 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Open your terrarium and fan over the casing using a large peice of cardboard or similar to disperse C02 buildup and replenish oxygen

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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: OJK]
    #1823440 - 08/17/03 04:36 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I exchange air 3 times a hour. Will this do the same as fanning?

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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: pdinca]
    #1823466 - 08/17/03 04:48 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

That is fanning.
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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: MrSleep]
    #1823504 - 08/17/03 05:00 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

3 times an hour is waaaaay too much, do like 5 - 10 times a day

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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: Ravinoff]
    #1823781 - 08/17/03 06:29 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

More like 3-5...but that depends on the size of your terrarium and how many mushrooms are growing. But for one casing in a decent size terrarium 3-5 times a day will do just fine.

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pdinca said:
I exchange air 3 times a hour.




By what method?



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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: GoodOlBattonAss]
    #1823837 - 08/17/03 06:47 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

>3 times an hour is waaaaay too much
>More like 3-5...but that depends on the size of your terrarium and how many mushrooms are growing. But for one casing in a decent size terrarium 3-5 times a day will do just fine.

1- 3 times an hour is optimal according to stamets. (the mushrooms cultivator)

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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: Erik006]
    #1823986 - 08/17/03 07:32 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Right...if you're growing in a warehouse with hundreds of pounds of mushrooms consuming oxygen. But the few mushrooms that are growing in a r-made bin just don't use that much oxygen.

Look at the picture on 198...


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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: GoodOlBattonAss]
    #1824036 - 08/17/03 07:52 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

also what are the temps like? If they are real low this will also cause slowed growth.


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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: GoodOlBattonAss]
    #1824074 - 08/17/03 08:03 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

hehe yea.. thats a nice picture. But youre probably right, any input on this people?

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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: GoodOlBattonAss]
    #1824307 - 08/17/03 09:25 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I lost my light which was also my heat source for a few days and my cakes did the same thing... stalled then aborted... only 1 cake actually got a flush once i got me light back

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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: AnAshA]
    #1824372 - 08/17/03 09:47 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

IME, the biggest cause of aborts is misting the pins. Once pins form, DON'T MIST!! It's way better to let the casing dry out a bit, and give smaller mushies, then to mist and abort them all. Once the pins are 1 1/2 to 2 inches high, you can begin to mist lightly again.


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Re: Pinheads form, but fail to grow (PICS) [Re: ]
    #1825283 - 08/18/03 05:16 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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exchange air 3 times a hour.




How do you manage to keep your humidity up with that kind of air exchange?

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