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rulesq
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: veda_sticks]
#18282833 - 05/18/13 09:30 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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SAB for sure, jst the first time i tried this, my apartment was seriously a mess. Hadn't cleaned it properly for the whole winter or so.. could have been bad prints as well, who knows but i still would say it was due to bad preparations
this time i cleaned my apt thoroughly, used more sterile methods(like spraying Iso so much that i nearly fainted lol) and used far less popcorn compared to last time. 
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Odd as it may be, I've seen folks in Europe pull off these popcorn grows with no PC
this is exactly what im doing, following a tek i found from a Finnish forum (no pc, no SAB although i use one)
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: rulesq]
#18283565 - 05/18/13 12:59 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you're going to spray things in your air for mold spores, use a mix of bleach/water.
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rulesq
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18283593 - 05/18/13 01:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heheh thats what i did, forgot to mention abt it. i sprayed iso as well, just to calm my nerves i guess
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: rulesq]
#18283735 - 05/18/13 01:38 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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All good man. Wasn't trying to correct you either, just a suggestion. It works really good. Good ol' bleach!
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rulesq
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#18283856 - 05/18/13 01:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Get that bleach!
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: rulesq]
#18284248 - 05/18/13 03:43 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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rulesq said: SAB for sure, jst the first time i tried this, my apartment was seriously a mess. Hadn't cleaned it properly for the whole winter or so.. could have been bad prints as well, who knows but i still would say it was due to bad preparations
this time i cleaned my apt thoroughly, used more sterile methods(like spraying Iso so much that i nearly fainted lol) and used far less popcorn compared to last time. 
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Odd as it may be, I've seen folks in Europe pull off these popcorn grows with no PC
this is exactly what im doing, following a tek i found from a Finnish forum (no pc, no SAB although i use one)
Having a clean work area is always a good thing, though some people tend to go over the top when its not realy nessesary.
With a SAB you dont have to bleach/lysol/oust bomb everything , dress up like your in a toxic waste contaminated place with radiation suit and gas mask goggles etc.
to which you might get something in the air land on your injection site to be pushed into your jar.
some people have no problems with inoculating in open air in a small room but some have terrible issues. which is why its not a recomended method. We like repeatable proven methods based on solid science.
In a SAB, confined space the air settles and so do contams, leave the walls wet so that just incase any air does get moved contams are less likely to go back into the air.
Gloves stop you shedding contaminated skin cells over everything aswell as wearing long sleaves so your arm isnt doing the same.
Its much easier to ensure nothingis floating around landing on stuff within a SAB than it is an entire room. Plus your not breathing inside the box.
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: veda_sticks]
#18286884 - 05/19/13 07:57 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just for the hell of it I have taken two jars of Cambodian that never produced mycelium and dumbed the corn into a tupper ware bin, where i mixed in some earth worm casings and then I took a fully colonized jar of creeper and broke it all up and mixed it with the other substrate. It smelled so good like strong fresh mushrooms. It was perfect even felt like mushroomy when I was breaking it up. I'm super stoked for this exsperiment and have been having the best of luck with my first grow ever. Even my second batch of jars is already starting to colonize with white corn. Same three strains creeper/ B+ / equator, having same issue with Cambodian. I'm ordering new spores of cam so I deff think it might have been spores. Should start seeing groth with in next week for my Golden Teacher/ Pink Buffalo/ Mexican. This has been so much fun so far can't wait to fruit. Grain to Grain transfer seems to be the best way for me. Once I see strong mycelium in one jar I spoon some in my sterilized substrate and it spreads like wild fire my jars move 5 times faster. With no pressure cooker 19 of my jars out of 24 are about 3 days away from full colonization. Five Cambodian never developed anything but stayed fresh. Which I've left two to see if anything but the other three just reused the substrate for more food for creeper.
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: Newtimer]
#18291970 - 05/20/13 10:10 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bulk sub colonizing pretty on corn mixed with earth worm stuff.
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: Newtimer]
#18292028 - 05/20/13 10:23 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Newtimer said: Just for the hell of it I have taken two jars of Cambodian that never produced mycelium and dumbed the corn into a tupper ware bin, where i mixed in some earth worm casings and then I took a fully colonized jar of creeper and broke it all up and mixed it with the other substrate.
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Newtimer said: Once I see strong mycelium in one jar I spoon some in my sterilized substrate and it spreads like wild fire my jars move 5 times faster. With no pressure cooker 19 of my jars out of 24 are about 3 days away from full colonization. Five Cambodian never developed anything but stayed fresh. Which I've left two to see if anything but the other three just reused the substrate for more food for creeper.
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Newtimer said: Bulk sub colonizing pretty on corn mixed with earth worm stuff.

I wanna see how this turns out. I have an idea already, but watching a train wreck can be fun. There might be a survivor or two 
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: Pastywhyte]
#18292058 - 05/20/13 10:30 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said:
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Newtimer said: Just for the hell of it I have taken two jars of Cambodian that never produced mycelium and dumbed the corn into a tupper ware bin, where i mixed in some earth worm casings and then I took a fully colonized jar of creeper and broke it all up and mixed it with the other substrate.
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Newtimer said: Once I see strong mycelium in one jar I spoon some in my sterilized substrate and it spreads like wild fire my jars move 5 times faster. With no pressure cooker 19 of my jars out of 24 are about 3 days away from full colonization. Five Cambodian never developed anything but stayed fresh. Which I've left two to see if anything but the other three just reused the substrate for more food for creeper.
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Newtimer said: Bulk sub colonizing pretty on corn mixed with earth worm stuff.

I wanna see how this turns out. I have an idea already, but watching a train wreck can be fun. There might be a survivor or two 

oh the humanity
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: rulesq]
#18292317 - 05/20/13 11:29 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know I'm having fun, hey from day one I was told my jars will contaminate and will not 100 percent colonize. That I'm destined to fail and nothing was done right. Ha is all I have to say cause here I am with almost all my original jars at full colonization zero contams, and smelling like fresh delicious mushrooms. I was told popcorn is bad but yet I'm having a blast using it and the mycelium love it. Shit I even have enough jars colonized that I have experimented already. So here I am doing everything wrong I guess but having it all work out so right. So as for my experiment I'm guessing it will turn out wonderful just as the rest of my grow. I'm not promising seeing I truly do really no nothing about mushrooms except how much fun it is to learn and grow. So far though its really been wonderful and I think I'm having more fun succeeding thus far because everyone said it was doomed from the get go. Don't worry I'll take pics of the train wreck when I get beautiful potent creepers it's already tripled in colonization so it must be doing something right.
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rulesq
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: Newtimer]
#18292449 - 05/20/13 11:56 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah man i'm not being skeptical here, i'm kinda doing the same, using popcorn, getting my feet wet first with it until im getting a PC, thats the only thing missing from my sterilization/sanitizing tools 
PC coming by the end of the month, already had one but it turned out to be way too small for my purposes, when i find a suitable one, it's rye all the way from there.
Nothing but high hopes for your project man
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: rulesq]
#18293347 - 05/20/13 03:30 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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So today one of my two jars of Cambodian finally has a tiny spec of fuzzy mycelium, whipping up some more popcorn substrate to get some g2g transfers started once and if it gets healthy and strong enough. I hope so cause that's suppose to be a good one. This will make my first grow complete all four strains. Lovin life yeah buddy
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: Newtimer]
#18293451 - 05/20/13 03:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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So happy / Cambodian mycelium finally almost four weeks before this tiny friend appeared I just about lost hope. Listen if your gonna post nonsence like its not going to colonize or other bull don't bother cause your wrong and I'm sure it will, the best thing is you will see it go from zero to hero
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This is my white popcorn and B+ 2 weeks [Re: Newtimer]
#18293676 - 05/20/13 04:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Even with split kerrnals it took two weeks for this, much faster than the yellow but then the kerrnals size is smaller in the white so I'm thinking that had something to do with it. Also used 2cc's at point of inoculation.
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: Kizzle]
#18297920 - 05/21/13 12:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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No jars contaminated and all colonized
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: Newtimer]
#18308593 - 05/23/13 10:38 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good Stuff - pink buff. Golden T and Mex are showing mycelium. Also did some huge tote transfers g2g today with creep and B+ doing monotub meathod using corn is great because all the moisture it holds I see lots of dew on sides - going to start fruiting a tub tomorrow so excited all my hard work is almost paid off. Thanks to this amazing web site and everyone's help in this process. So far everything has gone so much better than I ever thought and its all cause of this site. Can't wait to show pics of mushies for ya all of this first attempt. Have a great weekend all.
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: Newtimer]
#18362836 - 06/03/13 02:36 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Progress?
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: Kizzle]
#18362872 - 06/03/13 02:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Kizzle said: Progress?
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Re: 6 days popcorn substrate no sign mycelium [Re: B_BOY]
#18362965 - 06/03/13 03:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wanna see the beautiful potent creepers that were promised a few posts up
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