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Invisibleph_plus
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Caramelization????????
    #1819817 - 08/16/03 03:05 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

What does caramelization look like?.... I use 4gr s of honey and 96 gr s of water..... It looks like light piss before sterilization.... But after 15 min. of sterilization (15 psi.) they look much darker in color.... Almost like honey itself, but more fluid..... What's wrong about this? Every stuff i read on this TEK said that i shall use %4 sugar (honey) and %96 water.... I used the same TEK several times..... They all worked fine... They all looked like light piss.... But now, they are not!!!!!! They look like light piss in colour before sterilization, they look a little bit darker after sterilization and 1 hour after sterilization, they look almost like honey itself in colour!..... What causes this? Is this caramelization? If it is, what should i do?


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Re: Caramelization???????? [Re: ph_plus]
    #1819846 - 08/16/03 03:17 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

go out and buy some karo!!!


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Re: Caramelization???????? [Re: Ravinoff]
    #1819860 - 08/16/03 03:25 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

unfortunately we don't have them here....... :frown:  But we have some stuff called "Vita Malt" here and that worked for some of my friends here..... I may use it.... But thanx anyway for the feedback!..........


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    #1819869 - 08/16/03 03:28 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

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Re: Caramelization???????? [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1819901 - 08/16/03 03:38 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Noooo! I used something like a colander (3cm high from the bottom of the PC).... And all of my 12 jars are dark as shit!!!!!!!!!!!.............. They looked almost transparent before PCing..... The jars are 100ml.s... And my PC takes 3 at a time....Please help mee!... or... or let me cut my wristzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    #1819915 - 08/16/03 03:42 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

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Re: Caramelization???????? [Re: ph_plus]
    #1820062 - 08/16/03 04:41 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

are you using a different honey then you used before ?
nan says dextrose works even better then karo .
i think other brands of light corn syrup work too .


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Re: Caramelization???????? [Re: deanofmean]
    #1820087 - 08/16/03 04:49 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

good god, here this will solve all your problems, dont use a PC, just use the microwave, put the mixture into 1/2 pint jars, microwave for 5 mins on high with a saran wrap cover, let cool and innoc, simple easy, done! NO caramalization, no nothing except good sterile honey water.


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Re: Caramelization???????? [Re: GregHimself]
    #1820133 - 08/16/03 05:04 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Did you have success with that???? If your answer is "YES", what about the lids of the jars. They're metalic and can cause short circuit if placed in microwave... I use microwave alot especially for pasturizing... And if it works, that's a great deal for me!.... :smile: You have to sterilise the lids also if you use micro wave sterilization for any stuff.... And i mostly rub 'em with alcohol and put the lid on. Any more details... please.... 


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Re: Caramelization???????? [Re: ph_plus]
    #1820140 - 08/16/03 05:06 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

No lids at all, i just fill the 1/2 pint jar, cover with saran and rubberbands, then inject spores through saran, and electric tape over the hole...yes my FOAF did 5 jars last month this way, no contams great growth.


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Re: Caramelization???????? [Re: GregHimself]
    #1820158 - 08/16/03 05:11 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Great!...... Really!... I was planning to do that but.... a proof is greatly encouraging....


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Re: Caramelization???????? [Re: ph_plus]
    #1820176 - 08/16/03 05:17 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

yeah it works great, and is much easier to use then a PC, my foaf usees microwave for everything excpet sterilizing syringes and jars of corn


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Re: Caramelization???????? [Re: GregHimself]
    #1820182 - 08/16/03 05:19 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

that's what i do also..... great!.... and Thnx!


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Re: Caramelization???????? [Re: ph_plus]
    #1820206 - 08/16/03 05:27 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I use my microwave to re-heat my dinner and that's it...oh yeah and to pop popcorn


the PC is the best way out there to sterlizie stuff I don't think you will find any tek asking you to strilize your substrate in  a mircowave.But oh well if it works for you thats cool with me :smile:


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Re: Caramelization???????? [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1820330 - 08/16/03 05:55 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

I have been using microwave to pasturize my casing layers for almost 8 months...... I tried sterilizing my grain jars using micro-wave and they started to colonize by now....... (sterilized and innoculated 5 days ago) So, if that'll make you happy, i've had success using microwave.......


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Re: Caramelization???????? [Re: ph_plus]
    #1823316 - 08/17/03 05:49 PM (14 years, 5 days ago)

Whenever it gets darker, it's the sugars caramellizing.


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Re: Caramelization???????? [Re: Jack_Straw]
    #1827726 - 08/18/03 09:06 PM (14 years, 4 days ago)

>>i HAVE A QUESt...>i used HOney witH the comB ,,by goYA"""".....after pc-ing ,I knockedit up>.its been about 18-20 hours and >>from clearpiss...theres lIl wispY tiny particles floatin Around ....obviously since its honey i cant tell by color but can that be a sigN of mycelia? it floats,since supposively ..contams sink................there no karo to My convenience right now..


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