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Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover
    #18194277 - 04/30/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

This shit is fucking hilarious!:rofl:  Oh god I can't stop laughing!!  Fucking braindead Americans.  Fluoride is good for you!!!!!!!!!!!



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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul] * 5
    #18194350 - 04/30/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Can you explain the molecular mechanism by which fluoride is bad for humans?


If not you're as much as an unthinking sheep as you're claiming other people are because you're taking someone else's word as truth without understanding what is going on yourself. :themoreyouknow:


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 1
    #18194362 - 04/30/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

But the guy who says he's right because the other guy is wrong said that he heard that it's bad!
That's the epitome of persuasive evidence.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 2
    #18194368 - 04/30/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Can you explain the molecular mechanism by which fluoride is bad for humans?


If not you're as much as an unthinking sheep as you're claiming other people are because you're taking someone else's word as truth without understanding what is going on yourself. :themoreyouknow:





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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul] * 2
    #18194380 - 04/30/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

No, I mean explain to me with your OWN understanding how exactly it harms us on a molecular level. Like I expected, you have no idea you're just another sheep who thinks the people he listens to are correct. :rolleyes:

Also NaF is not the same as F. When you bond two chemicals, their properties and biological effects change dramatically.


Water is toxic in large amounts too, you know, but on a molecular level it is essential for metabolism and all sorts of other cellular functions. I hope you never drink tea (or natural spring water which has fluoride) because it's the beverage with the highest fluoride content known to man, much larger than the amount that is in any water you'll ever drink.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul] * 2
    #18194391 - 04/30/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Well no shit, eating an entire bag of sodium fluoride is harmful.
So is drinking too much water.

You don't seem to have a solid understanding of how dosages work; I'd advise staying away from drugs of all kinds.
Leave it to the more-informed minds.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: JoieDeVivre]
    #18194393 - 04/30/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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No, I mean explain to me with your OWN understanding how exactly it harms us on a molecular level. Like I expected, you have no idea you're just another sheep who thinks the people he listens to are correct. :rolleyes:


Water is toxic in large amounts too, you know, but on a molecular level it is essential for metabolism and all sorts of other cellular functions.


I hope you never drink tea because it's the beverage with the highest fluoride content known to man, much larger than the amount that is in any water you'll ever drink.



I'm not totally against fluoride.  I'm against the government adding it your our water without our consent.  Also I'm not a chemist so I can't explain to you what happens on a molecular level..


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 1
    #18194394 - 04/30/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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No, I mean explain to me with your OWN understanding how exactly it harms us on a molecular level. Like I expected, you have no idea you're just another sheep who thinks the people he listens to are correct. :rolleyes:


Water is toxic in large amounts too, you know, but on a molecular level it is essential for metabolism and all sorts of other cellular functions.


I hope you never drink tea because it's the beverage with the highest fluoride content known to man, much larger than the amount that is in any water you'll ever drink.



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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: something super extreme]
    #18194401 - 04/30/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Well no shit, eating an entire bag of sodium fluoride is harmful.
So is drinking too much water.

You don't seem to have a solid understanding of how dosages work; I'd advise staying away from drugs of all kinds.
Leave it to the more-informed minds.





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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul] * 2
    #18194412 - 04/30/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

So what? Like I just fucking said, you don't seem capable of understanding dosage.
If you eat a fucking tube of toothpaste, you're doing it wrong.

The warning is on the tube because, unimaginably, if you swallow more than recommended, bad things might happen. I'm sure swallowing too much is a pressing concern of yours. It says it right there in the shit that was circled not to fucking swallow it. How hard is this?

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul] * 1
    #18194416 - 04/30/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm not totally against fluoride.  I'm against the government adding it your our water without our consent.  Also I'm not a chemist so I can't explain to you what happens on a molecular level..



"The government" also purifies our water without our consent. :lol:

You're only against this specific water processing technique because a bunch of ill informed people on the internet have made it into a conspiracy and pretend like they have secret knowledge of why it is bad. You don't have to be a chemist to be able to explain it, you just need to do your own research.

You're missing the point that you're as much as a sheep as you're claiming anyone else is, because you've eaten up the suggestion that fluoride levels in our water are harmful,as evidenced by your "Fucking braindead Americans.  Fluoride is good for you!!!!!!!!!!!" comment, despite the fact that there's no evidence to suggest that it is.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #18194420 - 04/30/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

if they wanted to add stuff to the water to make you healthier, they would add vitamins.... not toxic chemicals

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: P-O] * 3
    #18194431 - 04/30/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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if they wanted to add stuff to the water to make you healthier, they would add vitamins.... not toxic chemicals



Oh, so you can explain how fluoride is toxic? Go on, enlighten us with your own understanding of the subject.

Most vitamins are toxic chemicals at the right dosage.:havesomescience:


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: P-O] * 1
    #18194432 - 04/30/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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:alert: toxic chemicals :alert:




Is this some kind of conspiracy theorist catchphrase for "things I can't understand or will remain willingly ignorant of"?
You do understand that many vitamins, in certain dosages, are TOXXIK KHEMIKALZ? Right?

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: something super extreme]
    #18194441 - 04/30/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

:facepalm:


are you even tryin to debate that fluoride is toxic....  your suppose to call 911 if you eat more then a pea sized amount of toothpaste.


this isnt conspiracy shit... it says it on the back of your toothpaste

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: something super extreme]
    #18194443 - 04/30/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Hey folks.  Check out Sodium Fluoride's MSDS data sheet if you want to see why I think fluoride is bad. 

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927595


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    #18194452 - 04/30/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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are you even tryin to debate that fluoride is toxic....  your suppose to call 911 if you eat more then a pea sized amount.



I think what they're trying to say is that even water is toxic at a certain amount.  But what they don't seem to realize is that fluoride is toxic at very low levels.  As you said in "pea sized amounts" it's dangerous.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #18194455 - 04/30/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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:facepalm:
are you even tryin to debate that fluoride is toxic....




No, :tard:, I'm saying that in the dosages present in your drinking water, fluoride is virtually harmless.
Before you nitpick "virtually harmless" to pieces, bear in mind that every single thing you could possibly shove down your throat is "virtually harmless".

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your suppose to call 911 if you eat more then a pea sized amount.




Which is why it says on the fucking tube not to eat it.
What are you, completely incapable of reading? Where, on the tubes pictures, does it say to call emergency medical services?

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Hey folks.  Check out Sodium Fluoride's MSDS data sheet if you want to see why I think fluoride is bad. 

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927595





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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul] * 1
    #18194459 - 04/30/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

CALIFORNIA ÜBER ALLES.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: P-O] * 1
    #18194461 - 04/30/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Citing the info page for NaF does not mean that fluoride is toxic in low levels not does it speak to your own personal understanding of the subject. You're just a sheep citing your shepherd.

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are you even tryin to debate that fluoride is toxic....  your suppose to call 911 if you eat more then a pea sized amount.



Yeah, and do you know how much a pea sized amount is compared to how much is in our water? Obviously not.

If you drink too much water you're supposed to call 911 too.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: something super extreme] * 2
    #18194472 - 04/30/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

sodium flouride is very toxic


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: JoieDeVivre]
    #18194477 - 04/30/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Citing the info page for NaF does not mean that fluoride is toxic in low levels not does it speak to your own personal understanding of the subject. You're just a sheep citing your shepherd.

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:facepalm:


are you even tryin to debate that fluoride is toxic....  your suppose to call 911 if you eat more then a pea sized amount.



Yeah, and do you know how much a pea sized amount is compared to how much is in our water? Obviously not.

If you drink too much water you're supposed to call 911 too.



As positiveoutlook said swallowing more than a peasized amount is enough to warrant a call to poison control.  So you're wrong my friend.  NaF is toxic in low levels.  I'd say a pea sized amount of toothpaste is a "low amount" of sodium fluoride.  Get off your high horse acting like I don't know what I'm talking about as if I'm just parroting Alex Jones.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: k00laid] * 1
    #18194478 - 04/30/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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sodium flouride is very toxic





lol @ comparing it to water or vitamins 

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 2
    #18194480 - 04/30/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah, and do you know how much a pea sized amount is compared to how much is in our water? Obviously not.

If you drink too much water you're supposed to call 911 too.





is it really that hard to think about how much of this crap we are ingesting over a lifetime?

hell even in 20 years.


the water in my city is flouridated to 1 mg of sodium flouride to 1 liter of water.


i drink over a liter of water a day.

if my math is right, thats about 73 grams of sodium flouride in a 20 year period.


and you think that has no detrimental health effects?

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: JoieDeVivre]
    #18194481 - 04/30/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

OH SHIT!!!!
Did you hear the latest conspiracy? The government is poisoning your air with NITROGEN GAS!!!!!
http://siri.org/msds/mf/cards/file/1198.html


Based on these irrefutable and highly-accurate, not at all misconstrued and abused sources, I am urging you to stop breathing immediately; prolonged exposure to nitrogen gas can cause DEATH.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: k00laid] * 1
    #18194485 - 04/30/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

ban fluoride


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    #18194486 - 04/30/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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OH SHIT!!!!
Did you hear the latest conspiracy? The government is poisoning your air with NITROGEN GAS!!!!!
http://siri.org/msds/mf/cards/file/1198.html


Based on these irrefutable and highly-accurate, not at all misconstrued and abused sources, I am urging you to stop breathing immediately; prolonged exposure to nitrogen gas can cause DEATH.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: something super extreme]
    #18194492 - 04/30/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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OH SHIT!!!!
Did you hear the latest conspiracy? The government is poisoning your air with NITROGEN GAS!!!!!
http://siri.org/msds/mf/cards/file/1198.html


Based on these irrefutable and highly-accurate, not at all misconstrued and abused sources, I am urging you to stop breathing immediately; prolonged exposure to nitrogen gas can cause DEATH.

:sped:



Nitrogen is naturally in the air.  What point are you trying to make?  As long as they're a good amount of oxygen with the nitrogen then you'll be fine.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: P-O]
    #18194493 - 04/30/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

:curbyourenthusiasm:

You're just ignoring the truth, like the rest of the sheeple.
Good fucking riddance.


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Nitrogen is naturally in the air. 




Just like NaF is naturally present in innumerable sources of groundwater.

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As long as they're a good amount of oxygen with the nitrogen then you'll be fine.




As long as there's not an excess of NaF in your water, you'll be fine.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: something super extreme]
    #18194502 - 04/30/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Christ on a stick.

You children....


Of course fluoride is toxic. It isn't toxic at the levels contained in tap water, that is just stupid conspiracy shit. If you drank enough water to be concerned about the fluoride in it, you are going to die of water intoxication first.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: ganjfather]
    #18194507 - 04/30/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Nope, because fluoride is toxic at a certain median dose, all fluoride is toxic at all doses ever and should be outlawed.
:kingtard:

This is why poorly-educated people shouldn't have access to information. At all.
Throw them in a fucking camp.

Oh well, why bother. Two out of three :sped: have pussed out and ignored me already.

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    #18194508 - 04/30/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Christ on a stick.

You children....


Of course flouride is toxic. It isn't toxic at the levels contained in tap water, that is just stupid conspiracy shit.

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and SSRI's have no long term health effects either.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: something super extreme]
    #18194509 - 04/30/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Alright guys this thread was supposed to be about the video I posted.  Damnit I shouldn't have talked about fluoride this thread has been completely derailed.:feelsbadman:


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    #18194510 - 04/30/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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    #18194514 - 04/30/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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That's the spirit!




Of weak-willed stupidity and glaring forced ignorance.
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    #18194516 - 04/30/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

:hi5:

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: something super extreme]
    #18194518 - 04/30/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Your only argument is "don't swallow the whole tube of toothpaste tard". Very intelligent.

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    #18194521 - 04/30/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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:hi5:

im on of the 17 other people that did the same thing



i did it too i just look on my phone not logged in so i can see his posts when i see him post in a thread if i posted in it to see if he talks shit so i can say ban svs


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: k00laid]
    #18194523 - 04/30/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Christ on a stick.

You children....


Of course flouride is toxic. It isn't toxic at the levels contained in tap water, that is just stupid conspiracy shit.

/thread




and SSRI's have no long term health effects either.


oh wait.....
:awkwardconfusion:





Fluoride has been added to tap water since the 40s.

It hasn't hurt anybody.


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    #18194524 - 04/30/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I think I said several times that fluoride is harmful at certain doses, and no one is disputing that.
What I said was in the levels present in your drinking water, fluoride is not going to harm you.

The only rebuttal I have seen is "this tube of toothpaste says not to eat it therefor fluoride should be done away with", along with abuse of a MSDS sheet on NaF.

Very intelligent.

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    #18194526 - 04/30/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:  :billymaythumbup:

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    #18194527 - 04/30/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

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ganjfather said:
Christ on a stick.

You children....


Of course flouride is toxic. It isn't toxic at the levels contained in tap water, that is just stupid conspiracy shit.

/thread




and SSRI's have no long term health effects either.


oh wait.....
:awkwardconfusion:





Fluoride has been added to tap water since the 40s.

It hasn't hurt anybody.




youre right, the american public is the epitome of good health.


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    #18194528 - 04/30/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

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:hi5:

im on of the 17 other people that did the same thing



i did it too i just look on my phone not logged in so i can see his posts when i see him post in a thread if i posted in it to see if he talks shit so i can say ban svs




Wow, you're even more pathetic than I had imagined.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: k00laid]
    #18194532 - 04/30/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

fluoride is GREAT for you.... i think we should add it to our food too :thumbup:

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    #18194541 - 04/30/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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k00laid said:
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ganjfather said:
Christ on a stick.

You children....


Of course flouride is toxic. It isn't toxic at the levels contained in tap water, that is just stupid conspiracy shit.

/thread




and SSRI's have no long term health effects either.


oh wait.....
:awkwardconfusion:





Fluoride has been added to tap water since the 40s.

It hasn't hurt anybody.




youre right, the american public is the epitome of good health.




Oh shit, I guess I missed that other countries don't have the same health problems.

Oh fuck, NWO is fluoride poisoning other rich countries too!

New conspiracy, call FOX news!

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: ganjfather]
    #18194547 - 04/30/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Fox news?? Are they supposed to be liberal now or something? :confused:

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    #18194548 - 04/30/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Oh shit, I guess I missed that other countries don't have the same health problems.

Oh fuck, NWO is fluoride poisoning other rich countries too!

New conspiracy, call FOX news!

:tard:




i dont think that india has a heart disease problem

or an autism problem

or an ADD/ADHD problem

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: Ran-D] * 1
    #18194550 - 04/30/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Just a generic example of a place where ill-informed :shitbird: people congregate to spread blatant misinformation and partial truths off as important and critical facts while pushing unnecessary and pointless agendas borne of sheer stupidity.


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Oh shit, I guess I missed that other countries don't have the same health problems.

Oh fuck, NWO is fluoride poisoning other rich countries too!

New conspiracy, call FOX news!

:tard:




i dont think that india has a heart disease problem

or an autism problem

or an ADD/ADHD problem

or a cancer problem.





These supposed problems, and India, have nothing at all to do with levels of fluoride in drinking water.
Do you normally debate by fallacy of extension? It's poor form, you know.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: k00laid]
    #18194555 - 04/30/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

tis thread... hilarious... and, i'm only on the first page, yet.

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    #18194556 - 04/30/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Can you explain the molecular mechanism by which fluoride is bad for humans?


If not you're as much as an unthinking sheep as you're claiming other people are because you're taking someone else's word as truth without understanding what is going on yourself. :themoreyouknow:




I think it was more of a humorous way of saying that Americans will believe anything they're told.  That doesn't necessarily mean he believes in the fluoride conspiracy.

But really, you're going to call him an unthinking sheep because he takes someone else's words as truth?

What are you doing when you adhere to the idea that all matter is composed of atoms and molecules?  You're taking somebody else's word for truth, if you wanna be technical about it.

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    #18194560 - 04/30/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

It really takes stride on page two, where all of the blathering conspiracy lunatics come out to show their asses.

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    #18194562 - 04/30/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

ganjfather said:
Oh shit, I guess I missed that other countries don't have the same health problems.

Oh fuck, NWO is fluoride poisoning other rich countries too!

New conspiracy, call FOX news!

:tard:




i dont think that india has a heart disease problem

or an autism problem

or an ADD/ADHD problem

or a cancer problem.




What in the fuck are you talking about?

Are you slow?

You can't find statistical numbers because most cases in India go untreated because of poverty. There is still cancer, adhd, and autism. Where the fuck did you even pull that piece of bullshit information from? Is there a misinformation for whack job conspiracy theorists forum that I don't see?


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: ganjfather]
    #18194566 - 04/30/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Well actually...
Just go in here, make up something really fucking stupid, and convince yourself that it's true.

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    #18194570 - 04/30/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Actually koolaid, there are a few places over in China and by India with high levels of fluoride in the ground water. I think it was like higher than 6ppm.

Shit caused the people drinking the ground water to pretty much be severely autistic and special.

sheekle hhhmm yeaah hmmm :headboard: 8=============

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    #18194586 - 04/30/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

wow, this site is filled with oblivious retards.

the isomer used in drinking water is different then the one found naturally occurring.

now, lets all think about how Bad, we are.



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It really takes stride on page two, where all of the blathering conspiracy lunatics come out to show their asses.



i fucking noticed. LOL

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Actually koolaid, there are a few places over in China and by India with high levels of fluoride in the ground water. I think it was like higher than 6ppm.

Shit caused the people drinking the ground water to pretty much be severely autistic and special.

sheekle hhhmm yeaah hmmm :headboard: 8=============

lay off svs, he isnt a bad guy, pull your self together sheek you are a man not a boy.



it was naturally occurring. right? that's what you said.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: limentroll]
    #18194592 - 04/30/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)



http://www.hpa.org.uk/webc/HPAwebFile/HPAweb_C/1227169969396
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Drinking water containing fluoride for a long
time can cause a mottling effect of children’s
teeth, during the development of permanent
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    #18194603 - 04/30/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

it's an effect on babies, dude. babies. as in their teeth are not strong enough, and it causes Dental Fluorosis.

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    #18194606 - 04/30/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_fluoride
Quote:

The lethal dose for a 70 kg (154 lb) human is estimated at 5–10 g.[7] Sodium fluoride is classed as toxic by both inhalation (of dusts or aerosols) and ingestion.[13]




5-10 grams at once will kill you

but go ahead and drink 73 grams in 20 years.

its good for your teeth!!!


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    #18194610 - 04/30/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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it's an effect on babies, dude. babies. as in their teeth are not strong enough, and it causes Dental Fluorosis.




so babies shouldnt drink tap water?

i think that is information that most people werent aware of


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: k00laid]
    #18194612 - 04/30/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

it would make more sense to add small amounts of vitamins to our water... :cool:

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    #18194615 - 04/30/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

yeah. they should drink mother's milk, before 6 months. then it's all good to drink water. :thumbup:

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    #18194620 - 04/30/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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it would make more sense to add small amounts of vitamins to our water... :cool:



no, cause then you'd see more people sick.


don't worry, sVs, Joie... i've got it from here.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18194624 - 04/30/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

hes here to argue just to argue

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18194628 - 04/30/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Back on topic to this video. It is funny in the sense that most people are willing to sign petitions without knowing why because they just assume it must be a good cause. On the other hand, I'm so fucking sick of hearing people argue about the gun rights thing, both sides of the fight are full of shit as far as I'm concerned.

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    #18194629 - 04/30/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_fluoride
Quote:

The lethal dose for a 70 kg (154 lb) human is estimated at 5–10 g.[7] Sodium fluoride is classed as toxic by both inhalation (of dusts or aerosols) and ingestion.[13]




5-10 grams at once will kill you

but go ahead and drink 73 grams in 20 years.

its good for your teeth!!!



yeah, the most damage you'd get from a non-lethal, but potentially dangerous dose, is some very bad digestion problems.
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hes here to argue just to argue



what? aren't you guys here for that?

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    #18194631 - 04/30/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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yeah. they should drink mother's milk, before 6 months. then it's all good to drink water. :thumbup:





Quote:

In the lower doses used for water fluoridation, the only clear adverse effect is dental fluorosis, which can alter the appearance of children's teeth during tooth development; this is mostly mild and is unlikely to represent any real effect on aesthetic appearance or on public health.[15]




i didnt know the world children meant exclusively 1-6 months old.

but i'll click on that nifty number 15 and do some more reading.


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    #18194636 - 04/30/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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what? aren't you guys here for that?





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    #18194644 - 04/30/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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what? aren't you guys here for that?





that and to troll on high kids.



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    #18194648 - 04/30/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

RonaldFuckingPaul said:
I'm not totally against fluoride.  I'm against the government adding it your our water without our consent.  Also I'm not a chemist so I can't explain to you what happens on a molecular level..



"The government" also purifies our water without our consent. :lol:

You're only against this specific water processing technique because a bunch of ill informed people on the internet have made it into a conspiracy and pretend like they have secret knowledge of why it is bad. You don't have to be a chemist to be able to explain it, you just need to do your own research.

You're missing the point that you're as much as a sheep as you're claiming anyone else is, because you've eaten up the suggestion that fluoride levels in our water are harmful,as evidenced by your "Fucking braindead Americans.  Fluoride is good for you!!!!!!!!!!!" comment, despite the fact that there's no evidence to suggest that it is.



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    #18194651 - 04/30/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

lol, you're the troll.

you post about the holy experiences you've had with your turds.

who's really trolling who?

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JoieDeVivre said:
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RonaldFuckingPaul said:
I'm not totally against fluoride.  I'm against the government adding it your our water without our consent.  Also I'm not a chemist so I can't explain to you what happens on a molecular level..



"The government" also purifies our water without our consent. :lol:

You're only against this specific water processing technique because a bunch of ill informed people on the internet have made it into a conspiracy and pretend like they have secret knowledge of why it is bad. You don't have to be a chemist to be able to explain it, you just need to do your own research.

You're missing the point that you're as much as a sheep as you're claiming anyone else is, because you've eaten up the suggestion that fluoride levels in our water are harmful,as evidenced by your "Fucking braindead Americans.  Fluoride is good for you!!!!!!!!!!!" comment, despite the fact that there's no evidence to suggest that it is.



You are a terrible try hard smarty troll; the worst variety.




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    #18194657 - 04/30/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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but i'll click on that nifty number 15 and do some more reading.






Quote:

In total,
5418 non-duplicate citations were identified. After reviewing the potentially eligible, 77 citations
were included in the review.




so it's entirely impossible that the researchers chose to review studies that pointed to the conclusion they already had in mind, right?

scientists dont do that stuff.


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    #18194660 - 04/30/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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it would make more sense to add small amounts of vitamins to our water... :cool:



Nothing being added to our water makes sense...
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    #18194668 - 04/30/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

If I was a worry wort a lot then fluoride would be somewhere in the low hundreds on my list of concerns. go ahead and give some serious consideration to the fact that one day, unknown to you unless it's by choice, you are going to die.  in the end it's always shock that gets you.  for one reason or another your body will become unable to send to your organs their minimum adequate levels of oxygen and nutrients and you will fade away.  stupid people on youtube and fluoride won't matter so much then.

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    #18194675 - 04/30/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

lol it "enhances" your water...

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: Shroomopotamus] * 1
    #18194677 - 04/30/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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it would make more sense to add small amounts of vitamins to our water... :cool:



Nothing being added to our water makes sense...
Expect for Mio







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    #18194687 - 04/30/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

whatever, the water police have taken over this thread. it's fine. it's the pub.



LOL trolls calling other people trolls.

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lol it "enhances" your water...



lol, oh but it's better then just normal plain disgusting fluoride water!1

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    #18194692 - 04/30/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

"MiO is listed as having less than 2 % of natural flavors. Other listed ingredients are citric acid, propylene glycol, malic acid, sucralose, acesulfame potassium, potassium citrate, Allura Red AC 40, Brilliant Blue FCF 1 and potassium sorbate. Red 40 is banned in some European countries and is not recommended for children. Blue1 has been banned in a number of European countries."

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    #18194693 - 04/30/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

LOLOLOL oh the irony.

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    #18194699 - 04/30/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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but i'll click on that nifty number 15 and do some more reading.






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In total,
5418 non-duplicate citations were identified. After reviewing the potentially eligible, 77 citations
were included in the review.




so it's entirely impossible that the researchers chose to review studies that pointed to the conclusion they already had in mind, right?

scientists dont do that stuff.



you do the rest of the 5000 some odd reviews.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18194700 - 04/30/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

what happened to u akira?  you used to be cool... and also the biggest conspiracy dude on the shit :lol:

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    #18194703 - 04/30/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

there is a fine balance between why people do things and why they are fucking idiots. look at me!1 big idiot.

(in other words, there is no way anyone will prove their claims, because a: they are unfounded or b: they don't do anything but post about it on the internet. idiots. we do those things.)


lol, this is the song i'm on now. awesome.

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    #18194713 - 04/30/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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If I was a worry wort a lot then fluoride would be somewhere in the low hundreds on my list of concerns. go ahead and give some serious consideration to the fact that one day, unknown to you unless it's by choice, you are going to die.  in the end it's always shock that gets you.  for one reason or another your body will become unable to send to your organs their minimum adequate levels of oxygen and nutrients and you will fade away.  stupid people on youtube and fluoride won't matter so much then.





i worry about things i can control

like the food and water that i put into my body.

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but i'll click on that nifty number 15 and do some more reading.






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so it's entirely impossible that the researchers chose to review studies that pointed to the conclusion they already had in mind, right?

scientists dont do that stuff.



you do the rest of the 5000 some odd reviews.




wouldn't matter.

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    #18194719 - 04/30/13 10:43 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

LOL, nice. more  assumptions. no, scientists, i thought were the only ones that did that!1

see, this is why i don't conspiracy debate... because it's one sided bullshnacky.

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    #18194723 - 04/30/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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i worry about things i can control

like the food and water that i put into my body.






do you produce your own food?  build your own water purification system?
if you answered no, then in all fairness you aren't controlling fuck all

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma] * 3
    #18194730 - 04/30/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

The argument isn't whether or not fluoride is dangerous, the argument is that people should have sovereignty over their own bodies and not have to have things with questionable health risks in their water if they don't want to. So far as I know, short of buying a 400 dollar water filter there is no way for me not to drink fluoride in my water. I don't give it shit if it's toxic in a 50 gram dose or 5 gram dose, or even non-toxic at all. The fact of the matter is I should be able to choose not to ingest that if I don't want to. Is that really so hard to understand? I understand that some fluoride is naturally occurring but purposely adding fluoride to the water supply is what irks me. So far as I see it that's just one less conscious decision that I get to make about what I'm putting into my body, which I'm sure we are all very conscious of here (or should be).

It's the same god damn argument with GMO foods as well. I don't care if you think it's dangerous or not, but you damn sure better label it so that people who want to choose to avoid it for whatever reasons have the opportunity to do so.

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    #18194735 - 04/30/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

they do label GMOs. though, i concur with your first point... you can't REALLY have EVERYONE to agree that water in a PUBLIC water supply should be "tainted".

i completely agree with that. though, how do you get around this?

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    #18194743 - 04/30/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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So far as I know, short of buying a 400 dollar water filter there is no way for me not to drink fluoride in my water.




Yea I have Brita filters but as far as I know they don't do anything about fluoride. Do you guys actually drink straight tap water? I wouldn't recommend that to anyone where I live...

All that being said, I do buy local organic produce and there is no argument that can change my mind on that. Trust me, I live in redneck aggie-central, I've heard it all.

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    #18194747 - 04/30/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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So far as I know, short of buying a 400 dollar water filter there is no way for me not to drink fluoride in my water



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    #18194750 - 04/30/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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i worry about things i can control

like the food and water that i put into my body.






do you produce your own food?  build your own water purification system?
if you answered no, then in all fairness you aren't controlling fuck all




yeah because the only way to get the flouride out of your water is to build your own purification system. :rolleyes:


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    #18194763 - 04/30/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i propose more Fluoride deposits in natural springs. poison the water supply.

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    #18194773 - 04/30/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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they do label GMOs. though, i concur with your first point... you can't REALLY have EVERYONE to agree that water in a PUBLIC water supply should be "tainted".

i completely agree with that. though, how do you get around this?




Well the labeling on GMOs is getting there but there are still loopholes. But the point with GMOs is that there are alternatives available. I can choose not to eat GMO food if I want. However, short of buying a 400 dollar water purification system, I can't choose not to ingest fluoride. I just don't think that's right.

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So far as I know, short of buying a 400 dollar water filter there is no way for me not to drink fluoride in my water



http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/pf-2-arsenic-and-fluoride-water-filters-2.html?gclid=COn2tdqN9LYCFYHc4AodBzsAkw#!prettyPhoto




Those are the replacement cartridges, but thanks for the link anyway. The full systems is 300+ dollars and I don't have the money for that now.

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    #18194776 - 04/30/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i agree, like i said, how do you get around this problem? not everyone can agree on one thing (the water supply) so, who gets the alternatives, and who gets the say in waht happens with the water supply?

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    #18194792 - 04/30/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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yeah because the only way to get the flouride out of your water is to build your own purification system. :rolleyes:




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    #18194798 - 04/30/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i like most of the users here. i'd like to to say, it was fun arguing with all of you. on to the next thread!1 :luvdemshrooms:

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i agree, like i said, how do you get around this problem? not everyone can agree on one thing (the water supply) so, who gets the alternatives, and who gets the say in waht happens with the water supply?




Don't artificially treat water with fluoride and people who want to continue fluoride treatments for their dental health can do so under their own volition. Doesn't seem that complicated to me...

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    #18194806 - 04/30/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

If we just pulled our teeth out we wouldn't need fluoride.
:trollhide:



There's really no evidence of what the heck fluoride does to the endocrine system, but some scientists are very suspicious. There's no proof that it "calcifies" the pineal gland or causes nervous damage, but it is a potent, toxic chemical. People always want a reason to gripe about the government, when the real issue is whether or not a person can think freely about life, without the idea of a government shitting on their hopes and dreams.

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Edited by Ran-D (04/30/13 11:11 PM)

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    #18194812 - 04/30/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I wish my water supply was tainted with  :lsdabc:


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    #18194813 - 04/30/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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i agree, like i said, how do you get around this problem? not everyone can agree on one thing (the water supply) so, who gets the alternatives, and who gets the say in waht happens with the water supply?




Don't artificially treat water with fluoride and people who want to continue fluoride treatments for their dental health can do so under their own volition. Doesn't seem that complicated to me...



what if the majority wants to Fluoridate, and they want to exempt themselves from having to pay ludicrous costs to have it done personally, as opposed to the current system?

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I wish my water supply was tainted with  :lsdabc:



:highfive: same. and all without people's knowledge too. (as that'd be the only way to do it. LOL)

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    #18194823 - 04/30/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

That's totally possible... but you'd have to  :ninjalike:

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    #18194828 - 04/30/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

want to check your fluoridation levels?

http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/MWF/Index.asp

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    #18194837 - 04/30/13 11:20 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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No, I mean explain to me with your OWN understanding how exactly it harms us on a molecular level. Like I expected, you have no idea you're just another sheep who thinks the people he listens to are correct. :rolleyes:

Also NaF is not the same as F. When you bond two chemicals, their properties and biological effects change dramatically.


Water is toxic in large amounts too, you know, but on a molecular level it is essential for metabolism and all sorts of other cellular functions. I hope you never drink tea (or natural spring water which has fluoride) because it's the beverage with the highest fluoride content known to man, much larger than the amount that is in any water you'll ever drink.





Flourine needs one electron to completely fill its outer shell  For example, I think flourine will cause severe disruption of hydroxylase reactions which are very important.  Flourine can bind with group one and two elements, and as such substitute for oxygen, phosphorus, nitrogen, etc, and disrupt many enzymatic and other organic reactions in the body. (Had to edit after I thought about it)


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    #18194854 - 04/30/13 11:24 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

umm...

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    #18194873 - 04/30/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I'm pretty sure we have enough receptor atoms to cover it.

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I'm pretty sure we have enough receptor atoms to cover it.




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    #18194883 - 04/30/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm pretty sure we have enough receptor atoms to cover it.




for a single dose? obviously.

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    #18194892 - 04/30/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Fluorine isn't ... isn't Fluoride.

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Fluorine isn't ... isn't Fluoride.




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    #18194922 - 04/30/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Flourine isn't flouride, but the toxicity of flouride is becauase flouride ions can form covalent bonds similar to hydroxide ions and that's what bad in the body.  So the actual danger of it depends on what salt, how reactive it is, etc.


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    #18194944 - 04/30/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

well, you don't know the specific actions that are associated with Sodium Fluoride being digested in the stomach.

according to http://ec.europa.eu/health/scientific_committees/opinions_layman/fluoridation/en/l-3/2.htm

"In humans and animals, ingested fluoride occurs as hydrogen fluoride (HF) in the acidic environment of the stomach and is effectively absorbed from the gastrointestinal tract, although there is no proved absorption from the oral cavity. Peak plasma levels are typically seen within 30–60 minutes after ingestion. Highly soluble fluoride compounds, such as NaF present in tablets, aqueous solutions and toothpaste are almost completely absorbed, whereas compounds with lower solubility, such as CaF2, MgF2, and AlF3, are less well absorbed. Ingestion of fluoride with milk or a diet high in calcium will decrease fluoride absorption."
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Flourine isn't flouride, but the toxicity of flouride is becauase flouride ions can form covalent bonds similar to hydroxide ions and that's what bad in the body.  So the actual danger of it depends on what salt, how reactive it is, etc.




correct. and also ^^^ it seems that Sodium Fluoride gets completely absorbed and absolved in the stomach, according to what i've read.

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    #18194963 - 04/30/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

actually, I think you can die from sodium flouride, but it takes a bit.


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    #18194969 - 04/30/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Gee Akira, you and I are a couple of smart fuckers.  :awesomenod:


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: starfire_xes]
    #18194998 - 05/01/13 12:10 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

everyone's smart. some people are idiots, though, and only follow with their hard head, instead of the using the soft squishy thing inside.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #18195007 - 05/01/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

yeah i'm sure flouride in the water is a good idea.  Thats why pretty much every first world country has banned it.  The US has such a good track record on food and water adulteration.

Or maybe they don't put flouride in the water because they're not dicks who medicate the water.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: teamkiller]
    #18195015 - 05/01/13 12:14 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

most of the world is afraid of the Illuminati, and think the USA is a haven of evil troll manipulators.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #18195037 - 05/01/13 12:20 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

are those things not true?

fact: denmark is the best country.  denmark does not flouridate the water, therefore water flouridation is bad.

I mean, why is this even a debate.  since when is it okay to put "medicine" in the water.  And why fucking flouride wtf.  why don't they put b vitamins and caffeine in the water if we're going to be medicated.  medicate us from our lethargy.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: teamkiller]
    #18195056 - 05/01/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Denmark is a great country. filled with typical people, who are afraid of boogey men. :shrug:

plus, your argument starts getting leaky when you start presuming that we'd might as well have more chemicals in the water. :sadyes:

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18195057 - 05/01/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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who are afraid of boogey men. :shrug:




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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: k00laid]
    #18195067 - 05/01/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

you can't do anything about them. what are you going to logic them to death, with the prospect of world peace and non-violence? :lol:

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18195072 - 05/01/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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you can't do anything about them.




says you

and not surprisingly, also them.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: k00laid]
    #18195080 - 05/01/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

the side who's winning. :awesome:

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18195086 - 05/01/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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the side who's winning. :awesome:




not the side that agrees with your personal values, and morals?

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: Robo]
    #18195098 - 05/01/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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CALIFORNIA ÜBER ALLES.



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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: k00laid]
    #18195100 - 05/01/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

you underestimate the forces of good.

you didn't get what i said at all. you make me wanna cry!  :getout:

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18195112 - 05/01/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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you underestimate the forces of good.

you didn't get what i said at all. you make me wanna cry!  :getout:




well it wasnt very easy to "get" and i'm still not sure i "got" it.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: k00laid]
    #18195117 - 05/01/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

sure it was. it's just you didn't try hard enough.  :youdidit:

good will overcome evil. more good people then there are evil people. i'm on the side that is winning, cause it always wins.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18195242 - 05/01/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Can someone come here and sit with me with the light on until I go to sleep?  there are boogey men in the dark.  :smirk:


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: starfire_xes]
    #18195246 - 05/01/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: starfire_xes]
    #18195265 - 05/01/13 01:40 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

we'll just put some Fluorite in your ...

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18195270 - 05/01/13 01:43 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

those arent teeth man and thats not a glass

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    #18195276 - 05/01/13 01:44 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

:lol: ok, Shins.

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    #18195285 - 05/01/13 01:47 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

no its not ok, i am deeply butthurt about how you claimed that was a glass of water.

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    #18195309 - 05/01/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

well, i think you and i are gonna have a problem here.

*unfolds the creases of the thread*

this is my thread, see? there ain't enough room for the both of our arguments, see? nyah!

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    #18195318 - 05/01/13 01:58 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

*rolls up his sleeves*

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #18195629 - 05/01/13 05:33 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

The Great Fluoride Battle of 2013...

The video demonstrates why many petitions are not taken seriously. The idiots signing them.

I only watched a little more than half, but the assholes were signing before knowing what the petition was about.


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    #18195694 - 05/01/13 06:18 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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The argument isn't whether or not fluoride is dangerous, the argument is that people should have sovereignty over their own bodies and not have to have things with questionable health risks in their water if they don't want to. So far as I know, short of buying a 400 dollar water filter there is no way for me not to drink fluoride in my water. I don't give it shit if it's toxic in a 50 gram dose or 5 gram dose, or even non-toxic at all. The fact of the matter is I should be able to choose not to ingest that if I don't want to. Is that really so hard to understand? I understand that some fluoride is naturally occurring but purposely adding fluoride to the water supply is what irks me. So far as I see it that's just one less conscious decision that I get to make about what I'm putting into my body, which I'm sure we are all very conscious of here (or should be).

It's the same god damn argument with GMO foods as well. I don't care if you think it's dangerous or not, but you damn sure better label it so that people who want to choose to avoid it for whatever reasons have the opportunity to do so.




I agree with this. Regardless of how safe it is on average, I disagree in principle with the approach of mass medicating people through the water supply.

If I want fluoride I can go to the store and buy toothpaste very affordably, there's no need to add it (or fluorosilicate, and industrial byproduct that doesn't occur naturally in water anywhere) to my water to "help me out." The benefits to teeth are not from ingestion anyway, but direct exposure to tooth surfaces. With toothpaste at least I can spit it out and rinse out my mouth. Adding it to the water also means that dosage can vary a lot based on how much tap water you actually drink in a day.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: psi]
    #18195744 - 05/01/13 06:40 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Why is fluoride added to water at all? If I shouldn't swallow a pea sized amount on my toothbrush then why should it be added to the water I drink every day? There's fluoride in drinking water that occurs naturally from leeching, but there is also arsenic and a bunch of other shit you wouldn't want intentionally added to your water so again, why are they ADDING it? Don't give me that anti-cavity shit they're feeding us. We don't have any less cavities than other developed countries that don't fluoridate their water.

This was a real, scientific study done on the effects of fluoride that wasn't funded by the same agencies in charge of feeding it to us:
http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=11571

It's harmful, they limit it to small ppm levels, yet they ADD it to water for our benefit somehow despite the fact we have fluoride toothpastes and mouth washes, not to mention dentists at our disposal for cleaning our teeth already.

I must be a conspiracy theorist :shrug:

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    #18196006 - 05/01/13 08:32 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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they do label GMOs.




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    #18196410 - 05/01/13 10:43 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: lowbrow]
    #18196654 - 05/01/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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they do label GMOs.




No, they don't.



yes, they do.


"If it is a 5-digit number beginning with an 8, it is GM. However, do not trust that GE foods will have a PLU identifying it as such, because PLU labeling is optional"

you can always look at the number identifying an organic fruit or vegetable.

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Why is fluoride added to water at all? If I shouldn't swallow a pea sized amount on my toothbrush then why should it be added to the water I drink every day? There's fluoride in drinking water that occurs naturally from leeching, but there is also arsenic and a bunch of other shit you wouldn't want intentionally added to your water so again, why are they ADDING it? Don't give me that anti-cavity shit they're feeding us. We don't have any less cavities than other developed countries that don't fluoridate their water.

This was a real, scientific study done on the effects of fluoride that wasn't funded by the same agencies in charge of feeding it to us:
http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=11571

It's harmful, they limit it to small ppm levels, yet they ADD it to water for our benefit somehow despite the fact we have fluoride toothpastes and mouth washes, not to mention dentists at our disposal for cleaning our teeth already.

I must be a conspiracy theorist :shrug:



you must be. because you and everyone else isn't DOING anything about anything. :shrug:

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: JoieDeVivre]
    #18196703 - 05/01/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Can you explain the molecular mechanism by which fluoride is bad for humans?


If not you're as much as an unthinking sheep as you're claiming other people are because you're taking someone else's word as truth without understanding what is going on yourself. :themoreyouknow:




God damn it, here we go.

RFP, fluoride is bad at you in concentrations above 1 PPM, which is higher than in our drinking water.

They have done studies on the neurodevelopmental effects of children exposed to higher-than-normal concentrations of fluoride, and it is true that it is bad for their development, but these very studies used children who drink water with normal levels of fluoride and had normal IQ as the control group.

Please, RFP, I enjoy and respect you as a poster, but that is going to end if you continue walking this path. Fluoride deniers are the most retarded subculture on earth. I'm sorry.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18196734 - 05/01/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

normal levels of Fluoride? :lol: it seems no one can explain what the properties of "normal" vs "dangerous" levels of Fluoride are, or to differentiate them.

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    #18196737 - 05/01/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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normal levels of Fluoride? :lol: it seems no one can explain what the properties of "normal" vs "dangerous" levels of Fluoride are, or to differentiate them.




1PPM. It's in my post. Don't be a retard, akira. :doh:


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18196749 - 05/01/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

you didn't explain shit fuck all, man. :tongue:

do any of you drink tap water? have an ill effects? stomach ache? anything? no? :lol:

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    #18196758 - 05/01/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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you didn't explain shit fuck all, man. :tongue:

do any of you drink tap water? have an ill effects? stomach ache? anything? no? :lol:




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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18196791 - 05/01/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i have a water filter.


what is your point?

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18196805 - 05/01/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

That won't give you deionized water. Trust me, there is still plenty of fluoride in the shit you are drinking. Feels smart man? :retawed:

Here's what'll give you deionized water--

http://www.directindustry.com/prod/mocom/benchtop-laboratory-autoclaves-with-water-deionizer-34472-865083.html

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18196821 - 05/01/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

ok, good. i have no ill effects of the water i am drinking.

so... what the fuck... is your point? i'll pay out the ass for a super duper de-ionzer (which makes water LESS HEALTHY OY) and you think i'll just... detect a health increase?



do you have any proof of this, other then telling me it's in pudding? cause i can't afford a big piece of junk, when i have no ill effects from my (our) drinking water.

(don't get me wrong, i guess i appreciate you trying to help me. but seriously... i need more then just, "try it, you'll see".)

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    #18196832 - 05/01/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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do you have any proof of this, other then telling me it's in pudding?




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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18196835 - 05/01/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

If you dont like it...dont drink it!
I will take the governments water for myself :happyweed:

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    #18196840 - 05/01/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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If you dont like it...dont drink it!
I will take the governments water for myself :happyweed:




It's good fucking water. You go try the water in South America or India, come back and tell me some more about fluoride.  :bashful:

Oh, and deionized water-- tastes like shit, and dilutes chemical solutions in your body leading to serious problems including death. Turns out you're better off with the fluoride than without. :cookiemonster:

http://www.livestrong.com/article/168641-health-effects-of-drinking-deionized-water/

Honestly the worst part about this is how much terrible, disposable garbage gets sold to people with the fluoridated wool over their eyes who think there is something "healthier" about drinking water from a plastic jug or through a piece of future garbage than straight from the tap.

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    #18196847 - 05/01/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

testing the waters. :lol:

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do you have any proof of this, other then telling me it's in pudding?




:lolwut:



i'm assuming, no. you don't. it's ok. you can believe what you want. hey, i ain't afraid a-no ghost.

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    #18196860 - 05/01/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I'm afraid not everybody is as ignorant as you are, akira.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18196913 - 05/01/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

:lol: no need for simply name calling. oh wait. yep, because you have no argument, right? oh i forgot, that's how things work around here.

oh well, IDIOTS will be idiots.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma] * 2
    #18196915 - 05/01/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Idiots also miss responses that don't have their name on them, probably because of the brainstrain they suffer from reading. :flowstone:

You know, nobody is FORCING you to read and write, akira. You can go out and play stick-ball with the other retards, if you please. Just don't forget your helmet.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18196925 - 05/01/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

no, they don't. i just saw it... and guess what... :flowstone:

"Decreased Mineral Intake
Drinking water, though not a major source of essential nutrients, contributes to the overall consumption of minerals needed for metabolism and chemical reactions in the body. Deionized water lacks minerals resulting and if the diet fails to meet adequate mineral needs, drinking deionized water increases urination leading to a loss of minerals from the body. Symptoms of mineral deficiency include tiredness, weakness, headache, muscle cramps and changes in heart rhythm.


Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/168641-health-effects-of-drinking-deionized-water/#ixzz2S4GSJEr9"

look at that. some unhealthy effects. SHOULD I BE SCARED!1?11!@!@?!@?! :eek: :hissyfit:

"Toxic Chemical Exposure
Water is a nearly universal solvent, meaning acids, bases and salts ionize easily. Deionized water is more reactive and can remove minerals or other toxic ions from the container it's stored in or from the pipes it passes through. According to the Material Safety Data Sheet on Deionized water from Siemens, deionized water is incompatible with active metals including sodium, lithium and powdered aluminum.


Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/168641-health-effects-of-drinking-deionized-water/#ixzz2S4Gv0DXy"

look, more juicy info. man, i'm really terrified of this de-ionized water@1!21!@!@!@!@!

LOOK OUT

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18196935 - 05/01/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

"Water Intoxication
With physical exertion and loss of fluid and electrolytes through sweat, thirst increases. Drinking too much water, especially deionized water with the sodium removed, can result in dilution of sodium in the body leading to hyponatremic shock with an increased acidity of the blood. Symptoms include weakness, confusion and inability to eat. Rapid decrease of sodium in the blood can cause seizures."

There there, Akira, Just forget about the mean computer people and go outside... the fog will go away, I promise.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18196941 - 05/01/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

LOL nice. because we don't agree on a big piece of speculation, you think i'm a retard. look, i am FORCING myself to try educate you morons. sorry for having a brain.
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"Water Intoxication
With physical exertion and loss of fluid and electrolytes through sweat, thirst increases. Drinking too much water, especially deionized water with the sodium removed, can result in dilution of sodium in the body leading to hyponatremic shock with an increased acidity of the blood. Symptoms include weakness, confusion and inability to eat. Rapid decrease of sodium in the blood can cause seizures."

There there, Akira, Just forget about the mean computer people and go outside... the fog will go away, I promise.



what is the quote for? more scary news about De-ionized water? :eek:

oh and keep saying my name. it'll really help drive home your point about you not liking my opinion. :bigyesnod:

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18196953 - 05/01/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Deionized water doesn't come from consumer-level products so nobody is at risk for drinking it. It's a laboratory-grade thing. Just making the point that fluoride is good for you, in the right amounts, just like water itself.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18196962 - 05/01/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.livestrong.com/article/153668-uses-for-deionized-water/

this is my favorite page on this website.

it shows all the useful applications of de-ionized water. all of which don't include public safety nor health.

:lol: oh man, an i'm the idiot. i'm the idiot for NOT making assumptions. WOW

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Deionized water doesn't come from consumer-level products so nobody is at risk for drinking it. It's a laboratory-grade thing. Just making the point that fluoride is good for you, in the right amounts, just like water itself.



KK.

so all the hype about evil Fluoride is overstated? i know that already.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18196969 - 05/01/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

So you're arguing with me just to be an obnoxious douchebaggy troll? Typical akira_akuma. I should report you.


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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18196977 - 05/01/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

what? i'm telling you that...
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I'm afraid not everybody is as ignorant as you are, akira.



no

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That won't give you deionized water. Trust me, there is still plenty of fluoride in the shit you are drinking. Feels smart man? :retawed:

Here's what'll give you deionized water--

http://www.directindustry.com/prod/mocom/benchtop-laboratory-autoclaves-with-water-deionizer-34472-865083.html

Hint: don't do it. It's really bad for you.



no

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Can you explain the molecular mechanism by which fluoride is bad for humans?


If not you're as much as an unthinking sheep as you're claiming other people are because you're taking someone else's word as truth without understanding what is going on yourself. :themoreyouknow:





God damn it, here we go.

RFP, fluoride is bad at you in concentrations above 1 PPM, which is higher than in our drinking water.

They have done studies on the neurodevelopmental effects of children exposed to higher-than-normal concentrations of fluoride, and it is true that it is bad for their development, but these very studies used children who drink water with normal levels of fluoride and had normal IQ as the control group.

Please, RFP, I enjoy and respect you as a poster, but that is going to end if you continue walking this path. Fluoride deniers are the most retarded subculture on earth. I'm sorry.



no

and that's it.

i was responding to you. methinks, you're trolling.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18196993 - 05/01/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Never, never I say! Impossible! bLINDsOPHIST DOES NOT TROLL!!!1 :kingcrankey:



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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #18197001 - 05/01/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

:frylock:

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18197225 - 05/01/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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you must be. because you and everyone else isn't DOING anything about anything. :shrug:




And what do you know about what I do?

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    #18197239 - 05/01/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

nothing's changed. so you've done nothing. there. my conclusion is complete.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18197253 - 05/01/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Can't argue with that logic!

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    #18197264 - 05/01/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

what do you do? i'm curious.

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    #18197272 - 05/01/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Your mom!

OH SNAP

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    #18197472 - 05/01/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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I moderate on the shroomery. Big money, hot women and all the drugs you can consume! :yesnod:

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    #18197560 - 05/01/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

awesome. same here. only i'm free.

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Re: Californians Sign Petition For Nazi Takeover [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18197866 - 05/01/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i drank too much tap water and now i can't understand whats going on in this thread.


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    #18197945 - 05/01/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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This shit is fucking hilarious!:rofl:  Oh god I can't stop laughing!!  Fucking braindead Americans.  Fluoride is good for you!!!!!!!!!!!






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