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Mass Media Storage?
    #1815241 - 08/14/03 11:08 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

What is the best medium for storing the largest possible amout of data, for the least amount of money?

I have looked into DVD burners but they are still so expensive.
What about those 30 gig cartridge drives? They look like mini hard drives and you pop em in. :smile:

Another question.. What is the best way to store a hard drive and protect its contents. I know this sounds silly but, could a hard drive ever lose its information over time?

Thats is all. :smile:
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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: Effed]
    #1815635 - 08/15/03 01:58 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

well it does matter how much you want to store. Tape drives are still used for really big stuff, but they are slow. CD burners and discs are pretty cheap these days, I'd look at that for a general solution.

As far as data archiving, I don't know. I'm kind of scard I've heard of peoples CD-Rs just sort of aging and becoming unreadable.


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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: Effed]
    #1815992 - 08/15/03 04:55 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Another question.. What is the best way to store a hard drive and protect its contents. I know this sounds silly but, could a hard drive ever lose its information over time?





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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: Effed]
    #1816069 - 08/15/03 05:40 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

External usb hard drives are pretty neat. Plus you can tote them along with you.

Mines an 80gig Maxtor but they have a 120 gig version.


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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1816228 - 08/15/03 08:43 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

"As far as data archiving, I don't know. I'm kind of scard I've heard of peoples CD-Rs just sort of aging and becoming unreadable. "

:smile:

Its not that they're unreadable its just that the drives that they're being played in is unreliable. 

I sometimes get CD's from a friend of mine who has a 12 x 8 CDR... yes its that old.  And for some reason 1/2 of the discs she sends me don't work in my drive (which is 40 x ??? Rom drive).  But then they'll work in her drive always? 

For cost and durablility, I'd go for a CD.  If you're looking at long term storage, magnetic media can degrade over the years.  CD keep the data, just as long as the cd drives can play them :smile:

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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: djfrog]
    #1816339 - 08/15/03 10:13 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

> Tape drives are still used for really big stuff, but they are slow.

I used to use a very large StorageTec tape array that held several hundred terabytes of information. I could access any data in the array in less than two minutes assuming that one of the seven DLT's were free.


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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: Seuss]
    #1816450 - 08/15/03 11:04 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

.. and how much did that thing cost?


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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: 3DSHROOM]
    #1816510 - 08/15/03 11:36 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I got a DLT 8000 drive for about $3500. The tapes themselves are maybe $50, and each one holds 80 gig.

Takes me just under 2 hours to back up 40 gig of data.


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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: wingnutx]
    #1816587 - 08/15/03 12:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

> .. and how much did that thing cost?

Donno... a lot I am sure. We had three of them, and each one was the size of a small room with a robot arm in the middle, DLT tapes around the edges along with seven drives. We used them to store live feed from satelites. I think our total capacity at the time was around 5 PB.


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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: Seuss]
    #1817020 - 08/15/03 03:04 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: djfrog]
    #1817768 - 08/15/03 06:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for all the responses guys.!

I guess the best option for me might be tape drives.
Are the drives and tape decently reliable?
How about for archiving?
I am talking about storing hundereds of gigs.

Seuss, that setup sounds disgusting.


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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: Effed]
    #1823985 - 08/17/03 09:31 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

whats a PB?


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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: Effed]
    #1824133 - 08/17/03 10:23 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

They actually sell hd containers. You can do a search for hard drive bays too, I found some at a computer show that you put a hd in, install the bay into the computer, and just slide whatever hd you want in.


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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: DF2K]
    #1824143 - 08/17/03 10:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Petabyte, 1000 TB. In case you don't know, a TB is 1000 GB, so a Petabyte is technically 1,000,000 GB.


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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: TinMan]
    #1827201 - 08/18/03 06:40 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

damm,thatnks for the info


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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: DF2K]
    #1827904 - 08/18/03 10:13 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I use an Iomega ditto max drive ('bout $100) if you compress your files each disk holds 7 gigs, I've had it for a couple years so they may be cheaper and hold more, its a pretty reliable back-up though


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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: jellynutz]
    #1828107 - 08/18/03 11:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I'll look into that jelly. How much do the disks cost?
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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: Effed]
    #1842019 - 08/22/03 10:11 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

have this in mind
:alert: nothing lasts forever  :alert:
:smile:
that goes for media storage too, really it does  :smirk:
cd-r's, and i suspect dvd's too, suck. i've burnt some cd's once, cheap ones tho, didn't use them much and they lasted about a year after that spots begin to appear and the top side begins to peel off (i got that one right didn't i?) also a friend of mine has a lot of audio cd-r's some of them 5yrs old and spots are beginning to appear on  most of them, the thing is he hasn't used them, they're just sitting on a shelf. i guess it has to do with humidity but generally cdr's suck

hard disks are ok, not too expensive, fast, but bad sectors seem to like them  depending on how much and how long you use them :smile:

tape drives like mentioned are slow, not adequate for frequent access

zip drives - better get a hdd and some hdd drawer

also hdd's and td's are magnetic media  :shocked: and they are affected by... magnetic fields, so let's say a thunder strikes near your house, or your tv explodes, or your neighbour donald builds his science fair experiment-and fails, or a ufo flies over your house, or ....... , and your hdd's, td's... are not properly protected you are... well.. fucked  :wtf: :smile:

pen.. no, no,  pencil and paper  :thumbup: :grin: that's it

now let's get a little serious, just a little :smile:
how much porn exactly do you have for archiving :grin:, i mean how much data do you plan to store, for how long?
give me some more info and i'll give you some more bul.. uhm.. suggestions
 


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Re: Mass Media Storage? [Re: therrapyn]
    #1842205 - 08/22/03 11:00 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

two words: clay tablets


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