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what sort of requirements are generally needed in order for....
#18150801 - 04/22/13 04:10 PM (11 years, 29 days ago) |
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the police to get a wrrent to search your house? would you have to be a dealer or could it happen if ur just a possesser of personal amounts too? etc
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: what sort of requirements are generally needed in order for.... [Re: Anonymous #1]
#18151770 - 04/22/13 06:57 PM (11 years, 29 days ago) |
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Anonymous said: the police to get a wrrent to search your house?
They need probable cause that you committed a crime.
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would you have to be a dealer
No.
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Re: what sort of requirements are generally needed in order for.... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#18152219 - 04/22/13 07:58 PM (11 years, 29 days ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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Anonymous said: the police to get a wrrent to search your house?
They need probable cause that you committed a crime.
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would you have to be a dealer
No.
Could word of mouth or a text message be considered probable cause? Like over small amounts of drugs
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Re: what sort of requirements are generally needed in order for.... [Re: Anonymous #1]
#18152255 - 04/22/13 08:03 PM (11 years, 29 days ago) |
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Anonymous said: Could word of mouth or a text message be considered probable cause? Like over small amounts of drugs
Sometimes.
Depends on how bored they are vs. how many drugs you are alleged to have.
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Re: what sort of requirements are generally needed in order for.... [Re: Anonymous #1]
#18152697 - 04/22/13 09:27 PM (11 years, 29 days ago) |
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Anonymous said: the police to get a wrrent to search your house? would you have to be a dealer or could it happen if ur just a possesser of personal amounts too? etc
My personal experience is that 'if" the police really want to search your house, they can do it without a search warrant.

When an armada of police carrying assault weapons, bash down your door, put a gun to your skull, and march your ass outside and push your face to the side walk, you are not in any position to really analyze the search warrant.
Next, if they do find anything in your home,, you are going to have to spend a whole lot of money at hiring a cocksucker who is a con artist who works for the crown, which are called lawyers.
Once you blow a few tens of thousands of dollars defending that they did not have a warrant, then, you might....and I mean just might beat it.
Catch my drift......
If in doubt watch the video below ** no warrant **
Edited by Vitalux (04/22/13 09:41 PM)
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Re: what sort of requirements are generally needed in order for.... [Re: Vitalux]
#18152716 - 04/22/13 09:30 PM (11 years, 29 days ago) |
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Keep your drugs somewhere off the premise if it is at all possible.
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Re: what sort of requirements are generally needed in order for.... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#18153068 - 04/22/13 10:41 PM (11 years, 29 days ago) |
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Anonymous said: Could word of mouth or a text message be considered probable cause? Like over small amounts of drugs
Sometimes.
Depends on how bored they are vs. how many drugs you are alleged to have.
You allegedly sold someone two acid tabs two months before. Then when they wanted more you told them you only had a little bit more and wanted to keep it for yourself. The person that bought these acid tabs was later on arrested for drug dealing, and the last conversation you had with this person on their phone in their texts was about the acid.
The word "acid" was never used but it could easily be figured out.
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Re: what sort of requirements are generally needed in order for.... [Re: Anonymous #1]
#18153076 - 04/22/13 10:44 PM (11 years, 29 days ago) |
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Anonymous said: Could word of mouth or a text message be considered probable cause? Like over small amounts of drugs
Sometimes.
Depends on how bored they are vs. how many drugs you are alleged to have.
You allegedly sold someone two acid tabs two months before. Then when they wanted more you told them you only had a little bit more and wanted to keep it for yourself. The person that bought these acid tabs was later on arrested for drug dealing, and the last conversation you had with this person on their phone in their texts was about the acid.
The word "acid" was never used but it could easily be figured out.
My guess is you are too small a fish and too much hearsay.
If I were you, I would take the leftover acid, go out and buy a tim horton's coffee, put in the acid, drink the coffee and enjoy.
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Re: what sort of requirements are generally needed in order for.... [Re: Vitalux]
#18158017 - 04/23/13 09:33 PM (11 years, 28 days ago) |
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BTW, about a year before this you also had some heat on you because you were suspected as being an LSD dealer. Nothing ever came about it, and they didn't have much hard evidence in the first place.
Forgot to include that detail in the whole scenario scheme. Was one of the main reasons for the fear.
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Re: what sort of requirements are generally needed in order for.... [Re: Anonymous #1]
#18160250 - 04/24/13 10:02 AM (11 years, 27 days ago) |
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Anonymous said: BTW, about a year before this you also had some heat on you because you were suspected as being an LSD dealer. Nothing ever came about it, and they didn't have much hard evidence in the first place.
Forgot to include that detail in the whole scenario scheme. Was one of the main reasons for the fear.
there are a great deal of people selling chemicals, drugs, etc. If the police spent too much time busting them, it would draw too much of their time and resources.
My guess is they catch a fish and throw him to the courts when the courts are running out of business.
You my friend are not a criminal, and you are doing nothing morally wrong. You are a small businessman that is trying to supply people who are seeking a beautiful product which will help expand their consciousness.
I have the utmost respect for you, and regard you as part of the solution rather than a problem.
Just do a really good Job of hiding your stuff. You know it is small and can easily be put in locations where they are going to have a cunt of a time trying to find it.
Just consider the police like a gang of criminals and thugs and understand that if they wish they can bury you in court proceedings.
Be very wary of lawyers, they are the cons that actually work for the goons of the system. Their job is to steal your money and keep you distracted from your human rights.
Get to understand the difference between a human being and a person.
Generally the pigs, if they are going to nail you for drugs, the would rather video tape or catch you selling directly to an undercover pig.
Live and enjoy the present moment in life. Stop worrying about the future and the past. IT just doesn't exist.
The past is gone, and the future will never exist until it is in the present.
Hide you acid well, and only sell to people you know under conditions where you can't be really video taped. Like pools, hot tubs, saunas or make the fucker stand in your house and get totally fucking naked.
Next...if you ever get a visit.
Shut your mouth and say ...Nothing.
Every time they ask you a question just say.
" I am under no obligation to answer your question"
If they read you your rights
NEVER SAY "YES"
SAY: "I do not stand under those rights!"
those rights they are reading you are for a Person ..NOT a Human being.
If you say yes, then you have just fucked yourself out of your human rights!
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Re: what sort of requirements are generally needed in order for.... [Re: Vitalux]
#18160261 - 04/24/13 10:06 AM (11 years, 27 days ago) |
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I don't sell acid normally, good tips though.
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Re: what sort of requirements are generally needed in order for.... [Re: Anonymous #1]
#18164469 - 04/25/13 12:39 AM (11 years, 27 days ago) |
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the police to get a wrrent to search your house?
Everybody seems to have missed the question entirely.
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To obtain a search warrant, police must show probable cause that a crime was committed and that items connected to the crime are likely to be found in the place specified by the warrant.
A valid search warrant must meet four requirements: (1) the warrant must be filed in good faith by a law enforcement officer; (2) the warrant must be based on reliable information showing probable cause to search; (3) the warrant must be issued by a neutral and detached magistrate; and (4) the warrant must state specifically the place to be searched and the items to be seized.
-------------------- It drinks the alcohol and abstains from the weed or else it gets the hose again. -Chemy The difference between the substances doesn't matter. This is a war on consciousness, on our right to the very essence of what we are. With no control over that, we have no need to speak of freedom or a free society. -fireseed "If we are going to have a war on marijuana, the least we can do is pull the sick and the dying off the battlefield." -Neal Levine (MPP) I find the whole "my drug should be legal but yours should be illegal" mindset disgusting and hypocritical. It's what George Bush and company do when they drink a cocktail and debate the best way to imprison marijuana users. -Diploid
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Re: what sort of requirements are generally needed in order for.... [Re: fastfred]
#18218847 - 05/05/13 05:21 PM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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I'm not a lawyer, so please verify this on your own, but this is what I believe to be accurate:
Word of mouth is not enough for probable cause; word of mouth would be if person A said that person B told them that person C is dealing drugs. A first hand account, however, could be enough for probable cause - for example, person A goes to the police and says that person B tried to sell them drugs directly.
My guess is that if you just hooked a friend up with a couple doses, the cops won't waste their time getting a warrant, but it may put you on their radar, so just be careful. I definitely wouldn't be doing any illegal business with that friend of yours any time soon.
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Re: what sort of requirements are generally needed in order for.... [Re: illuminati]
#18219508 - 05/05/13 08:04 PM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
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(2) the warrant must be based on reliable information showing probable cause to search;
An anonymous tip is not reliable information, a respectable citizen swearing under oath to have witnessed probable cause is.
Jailhouse rats and paid snitches are taken on a case by case basis.
Hearsay is not allowed.
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(4) the warrant must state specifically the place to be searched and the items to be seized.
Being accused of selling drugs on the street is not normally probable cause to search your home. Never shit where you rest.
-------------------- It drinks the alcohol and abstains from the weed or else it gets the hose again. -Chemy The difference between the substances doesn't matter. This is a war on consciousness, on our right to the very essence of what we are. With no control over that, we have no need to speak of freedom or a free society. -fireseed "If we are going to have a war on marijuana, the least we can do is pull the sick and the dying off the battlefield." -Neal Levine (MPP) I find the whole "my drug should be legal but yours should be illegal" mindset disgusting and hypocritical. It's what George Bush and company do when they drink a cocktail and debate the best way to imprison marijuana users. -Diploid
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