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Offlineoxana
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should i wait to buy my pressure cookers * 1
    #18142063 - 04/20/13 09:22 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

so i was thinking of buying 3 new pressure cookers.
due to things that have recently happened in boston, should i wait a while,
i was planning on buying them all at once?

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: oxana] * 4
    #18142076 - 04/20/13 09:25 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

LOL

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: BoomerMan420]
    #18142107 - 04/20/13 09:35 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

How much is the total price of these pressure cookers you are looking at purchasing?  I'm gathering at the combined price you might be able to purchase an all American.  Way worth going that route.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: oxana]
    #18142135 - 04/20/13 09:42 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

You are fine. They can't go after everyone buying kitchen ware you know. :lolsy: But really,you're okay.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: oxana]
    #18142194 - 04/20/13 09:55 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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oxana said:
so i was thinking of buying 3 new pressure cookers.
due to things that have recently happened in boston, should i wait a while,
i was planning on buying them all at once?





are you czechnian?

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: twistedty]
    #18142414 - 04/20/13 10:43 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

DUDE LOL

I brought mine inside off the porch after I heard that pressure cookers were involved at the MIT "happening"...


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: Ghost4]
    #18142419 - 04/20/13 10:45 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Lmao!


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: jjhitman]
    #18142427 - 04/20/13 10:47 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: oxana]
    #18142438 - 04/20/13 10:50 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: The Phleg]
    #18142913 - 04/21/13 01:31 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

It would probably be common sense to wait.  Right now they're looking for other bombs, co-conspirators, etc..

It would be pretty stupid right now to buy pressure cookers, it's not even close to canning season.  Chances are that even in all of Boston there's not more than a few per month sold, and they will have plenty of time to thoroughly check those out.  Besides if THEY are actually looking for PC sales, anybody who phones in a tip on you will get you checked out pretty well.  Everybody in the country knows what happened, so buying a PC out of season is about the dumbest thing you could do right now.

Internet, ebay, local store, MegaMart, whatever... buying a PC will be really suspicious right now.

Don't let retarded opinions here from people with nothing to loose convince you to do something really stupid.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: fastfred]
    #18143017 - 04/21/13 02:19 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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It would probably be common sense to wait.  Right now they're looking for other bombs, co-conspirators, etc..

It would be pretty stupid right now to buy pressure cookers, it's not even close to canning season.  Chances are that even in all of Boston there's not more than a few per month sold, and they will have plenty of time to thoroughly check those out.  Besides if THEY are actually looking for PC sales, anybody who phones in a tip on you will get you checked out pretty well.  Everybody in the country knows what happened, so buying a PC out of season is about the dumbest thing you could do right now.

Internet, ebay, local store, MegaMart, whatever... buying a PC will be really suspicious right now.

Don't let retarded opinions here from people with nothing to loose convince you to do something really stupid.


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so what does everyone know is happening in boston?

because from over here in the UK when we first heard about it, then checked news reports, my girlfriend looked into it, and found that storys suddenly changed from the very first original reports making it very iffy.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: veda_sticks] * 1
    #18143145 - 04/21/13 03:34 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

^as is customary in the united states.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: Ghost4]
    #18143147 - 04/21/13 03:35 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

something is going on.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: Ghost4]
    #18143163 - 04/21/13 03:41 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

to me it seems like another excuse to continue/start wars rather than actuall real terrorism.

but anyway to get back on topic. would they really be watching pressure cookers? i dont see how pressure cookers fit into it.

Are they afraid you might plant one on someones cooker, seal the pressure reg and safety valves, turn it on high and make a mess of someones kitchen, or possibly injure someone?

We had some dodgy adverts here in the UK for a while, basically telling people, if your suspicoius report it, along with some scenaries, like, are there cars coming and going from a house, are there more cars parked than normal?! report it!!


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: veda_sticks]
    #18143185 - 04/21/13 03:50 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

in boston people had cops invading houses.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: Ghost4]
    #18143201 - 04/21/13 03:59 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

I bought my mini PC the day after... felt kinda awkward


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: Capn Blue Beard]
    #18143533 - 04/21/13 07:49 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

I think you are fine. I wouldn't buy anything related to making a bomb along with it. So I would skip all electronics, ball bearings, nails etc


Also what kind are you buying? If its some crappy ones skip that and buy one of the giant all americans, they're awesome.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: veda_sticks]
    #18143556 - 04/21/13 08:04 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

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veda_sticks said:
to me it seems like another excuse to continue/start wars rather than actuall real terrorism.

but anyway to get back on topic. would they really be watching pressure cookers? i dont see how pressure cookers fit into it.

Are they afraid you might plant one on someones cooker, seal the pressure reg and safety valves, turn it on high and make a mess of someones kitchen, or possibly injure someone?

We had some dodgy adverts here in the UK for a while, basically telling people, if your suspicoius report it, along with some scenaries, like, are there cars coming and going from a house, are there more cars parked than normal?! report it!!




Veda, at least one of the bombs detonated at the Boston Marathon was fashioned out of a pressure cooker. The pressure cooker was actually the housing of the bomb itself. So that's why they'd be on the lookout for people buying PC's. (oh and they've been running those "see something, say something" adverts here in the US, especially on the east coast non stop since 9/11.

I actually had the same thought that they'd likely be keeping an eye on PC sales right now due to the potential for copycats, associates, etc. and since for this hobby you don't want any extra eyes on you I'd probably steer clear of buying any, especially 3 at once, for a while. Why take the chance of getting a visit?


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: dirtyjerz]
    #18143569 - 04/21/13 08:10 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

I got mine off craigslist like 3 days before Boston.

Everyone looked at me funny when it happened.
They were joking about me blowing us up with it..

(improper use)

In all seriousness thoug. I'd wait or keep it low profile.

Three off season PCs might just be cause for a hello at your door.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: dirtyjerz]
    #18143592 - 04/21/13 08:26 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

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dirtyjerz said:
Quote:

veda_sticks said:
to me it seems like another excuse to continue/start wars rather than actuall real terrorism.

but anyway to get back on topic. would they really be watching pressure cookers? i dont see how pressure cookers fit into it.

Are they afraid you might plant one on someones cooker, seal the pressure reg and safety valves, turn it on high and make a mess of someones kitchen, or possibly injure someone?

We had some dodgy adverts here in the UK for a while, basically telling people, if your suspicoius report it, along with some scenaries, like, are there cars coming and going from a house, are there more cars parked than normal?! report it!!




Veda, at least one of the bombs detonated at the Boston Marathon was fashioned out of a pressure cooker. The pressure cooker was actually the housing of the bomb itself. So that's why they'd be on the lookout for people buying PC's. (oh and they've been running those "see something, say something" adverts here in the US, especially on the east coast non stop since 9/11.

I actually had the same thought that they'd likely be keeping an eye on PC sales right now due to the potential for copycats, associates, etc. and since for this hobby you don't want any extra eyes on you I'd probably steer clear of buying any, especially 3 at once, for a while. Why take the chance of getting a visit?




Yeah that makes sense, it would be a strong enough and seal well enough to make something that in open air would either just go on fire or flash into something much more explosive.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: veda_sticks]
    #18143600 - 04/21/13 08:32 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

Yeah. The pressure it takes to blow a PC. Quite high.

Fill it with ball bearings, nails, metal scrap, gunpowder.

It's not a pretty thing. They were used in.. the Oklahoma bombing?

This last year has been so bad for america.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: smegzilla69]
    #18143688 - 04/21/13 09:16 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

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Buy 6 n a sack of fertilizer




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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: twistedty]
    #18143780 - 04/21/13 09:59 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

pressure cooker for shroomin, remote control car for the kids, some nails for fixing those boards on the porch.. :awehigh:


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: orison]
    #18144566 - 04/21/13 01:14 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

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pressure cooker for shroomin, remote control car for the kids, some nails for fixing those boards on the porch.. :awehigh:





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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: twistedty]
    #18144573 - 04/21/13 01:15 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

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pressure cooker for shroomin, remote control car for the kids, some nails for fixing those boards on the porch.. :awehigh:





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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: The Lizard King]
    #18144768 - 04/21/13 01:40 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

LOL - pressure cookers weren't used in the OKC bombing!  A rider truck filled with ANFO (ammonium nitrate and fuel oil); detonated with a PETN detonator cord, a few sticks of stolen TNT and a few propane cylinders.

I'm born and raised in Boston, and Friday was fucking crazy - the entire city was empty, I've never seen it like that; no cars, no people, public transportation shut down....

The police were pulling people over and forcing them to go home.

I bought a PC about 2 months ago via Craiglslist in South Boston.  I was thinking "shit - the guy is probably going to turn over my cell number and email to law enforcement."  Then I remembered he told me "I only used this pressure cooker to grown shrooms" - so I figured I was safe :laugh:


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: mycomattie]
    #18144796 - 04/21/13 01:44 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

Don't let the terrorists win.  They are winning.  You're scared of buying a pressure cooker because the government might look into you.  If that's not a terrorist win, I'm not sure what is.

It's like being afraid to buy underwear or alarm clocks because those are other commonly used things that terrorists have used to conceal or make bombs with.

Buy ALL the pressure cookers, fuck being afraid of anything.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: BuddyGreen]
    #18144845 - 04/21/13 01:54 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

No, that's called being smart. If you were buying a PC just to cook or can then yeah not buying for that reason is letting the terrorists win. But holding off on buying 3 for illegal activities that you'd rather not have the authorities looking into when you have to assume they are looking more closely at it is just plain good sense to me. Why give anyone a reason to knock at your door to see what you're up to when partaking in an illegal hobby?


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: The Lizard King]
    #18144859 - 04/21/13 01:57 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

Three might be enough to garner attention...  Though I don't know the size your shooting for, like the others said if one of the larger AA pressure cookers would meet your needs and be even close to the same price I would just buy that.

Quite honestly I can't see too many terrorist cells thinking.  " hmmm..  that one does cost quite as much, but its quality and made in America.  Only the best for my bomb..."

I don't know exactly what the authorities are looking for, but I personally wouldn't be looking into people purchasing small quantities, and more so expensive PC.

I just purchased a 921 last week and am not the slightest amount worried.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: BloodKil]
    #18145151 - 04/21/13 02:57 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

:disappointedlaugh:
That's like worrying about buying pipes to fix your sink because they also had pipe bombs.
You should put off on buying tons of gunpowder though.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: StygianKnight]
    #18145335 - 04/21/13 03:33 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

Why would you need more than one pressure cooker for mycology?

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: Melkor]
    #18145373 - 04/21/13 03:39 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: Ghost4]
    #18145416 - 04/21/13 03:47 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

Word.  I don't have that kinda money :sad:

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: Melkor]
    #18145446 - 04/21/13 03:51 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

It's okay =] Hobbies take time and sometimes you don't have everything you'd want, but if you truly enjoy mycology and you progress, you may find yourself needing better/more equipment!

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: Ghost4]
    #18145598 - 04/21/13 04:21 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

I have two big burners on my stove.  That would cut my time in half!


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: jjhitman]
    #18145691 - 04/21/13 04:42 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

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That's like worrying about buying pipes to fix your sink because they also had pipe bombs.
You should put off on buying tons of gunpowder though.




You just don't seem to get it.

If a pipe bomb went off in your town and killed a cop...
Then you go to the hardware store asking for short pipes threaded on both ends and end caps...
WTF do you think would happen to you?

This is actually a worse situation because IT'S NOT CANNING SEASON, and NOBODY buys 3 PCs.  I'm pretty sure the OP doesn't look like a farm mom gearing up to feed her family either.  It's also not farm country there.

Put that together and they'll KNOW it's not for legitimate use.  Almost guaranteed they'll call the cops before he gets out of the parking lot.  Likely they'll take down his plates, description, and turn over the store video.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: fastfred]
    #18146592 - 04/21/13 07:26 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

Canning season? How about making some f*ing soup season. I bet if you ordered 20 pressure cookers no one would say a thing. There are people that own restaurants and resell things or sell their homemade stew. Or buy things for their kids' school tricky tray. This is hysterical.

Why wouldn't you just say you are using them to sterilize jars for growing mushrooms? Do you think they would assume you were growing illegal mushrooms because I assure you most cops are under age 30 and 'illegal' mushrooms are not something their generation knows much about.

Or you might be like me and everyone I know and growing the other hundred+ varieties of legal edibles.

I order ammo thousands of rounds at a time because I am a target shooter, I would laugh if law enforcement questioned me- right after I politely told them to f*ck off. I follow the law and here in America we are innocent till proven guilty.
Congress will probably introduce legislation banning high capacity pressure cookers and assault cookware next.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers (moved) [Re: oxana]
    #18146618 - 04/21/13 07:31 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

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I understand your concern, but this is belongs in another forum.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: Citric]
    #18146638 - 04/21/13 07:36 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

For the price of 3 pressure cookers you should be gettign an All-American sterilizer and forget all about that other shit.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: OMGitsBigCheeze]
    #18147581 - 04/22/13 12:05 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

> I bet if you ordered 20 pressure cookers no one would say a thing.

You are living in a fantasy world then.  People call shit in all the time.  The cops have nothing better to do than spend your tax money snooping around and harassing citizens of all types.

We have the lowest crime rate in recorded history and the highest number of cops and police funding.  What exactly do you think they're doing will all that spare time and those piles of cash?

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: fastfred]
    #18148326 - 04/22/13 04:05 AM (11 years, 29 days ago)

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It would probably be common sense to wait.  Right now they're looking for other bombs, co-conspirators, etc..






You're absolutely right - It's a very bad time for "shady" people to buy a pressure cookers.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: fastfred]
    #18149059 - 04/22/13 10:30 AM (11 years, 29 days ago)

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It would probably be common sense to wait.  Right now they're looking for other bombs, co-conspirators, etc..

It would be pretty stupid right now to buy pressure cookers, it's not even close to canning season.  Chances are that even in all of Boston there's not more than a few per month sold, and they will have plenty of time to thoroughly check those out.  Besides if THEY are actually looking for PC sales, anybody who phones in a tip on you will get you checked out pretty well.  Everybody in the country knows what happened, so buying a PC out of season is about the dumbest thing you could do right now.

Internet, ebay, local store, MegaMart, whatever... buying a PC will be really suspicious right now.

Don't let retarded opinions here from people with nothing to loose convince you to do something really stupid.


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LOL you're a moron. Serously. I usually don't call people name but such idiocy deserves recognition. People use PC all times during the year. Not only for canning (which can be done year around, not everyone is canning fall harvest) but for general cooking. Preppers have been buying PCs off the shelves. A COUPLE sold in Boston per month? This is laughable. My Walmart in a small hillbilly town in constantly running out of them. Couple per month. LOLOLOL. Anyone who phones a tip about a PC will get investigated? HAHAHA

SMFH. what an idiot.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: Pilz]
    #18149617 - 04/22/13 12:46 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

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LOL you're a moron. Serously. I usually don't call people name but such idiocy deserves recognition. People use PC all times during the year. Not only for canning (which can be done year around, not everyone is canning fall harvest) but for general cooking. Preppers have been buying PCs off the shelves. A COUPLE sold in Boston per month? This is laughable. My Walmart in a small hillbilly town in constantly running out of them. Couple per month. LOLOLOL. Anyone who phones a tip about a PC will get investigated? HAHAHA

SMFH. what an idiot.




Notice this guy breaking the rules with personal attacks.  Taking the advice of a guy not smart enough to insult my statements or arguments, rather than attacking me personally, is probably not a good idea.

> A COUPLE sold in Boston per month? This is laughable.

This is a logical flaw that many fools fall into.  Because they don't have the common sense to avoid buying what everyone in Boston considers a bomb-making supply, right after a terrorist attack no less, they assume that others are also so foolish.  Creating an imaginary "safety in numbers" scenario based on what other clueless fools might also be doing is a sure way to get busted.

The OP is looking for volume and speed, so he's not looking for little rice-cooker size $20 MegaMart specials.  Those might be doing a quarter or even half of their regular sales volume.  He's talking about larger sized ones that are most often used for canning.

Since it's not canning season and it's constantly on the news as a bomb-making supply, it's going to be very shady to buy one.

Taking stupid risks for no reason is a good way to get busted.  Period.

Get a fucking clue and educate yourself before you start running your mouth.  Google "pressure cooker bomb" for starters.  Click on just a few links and note what you find.

I'll even save you the trouble since educating the ignorant is sometimes worthwhile...

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As it happens, pressure cookers have a nefarious reputation in counterterrorism circles. In 2004, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) was concerned enough about pressure-cooker bombs to issue an alert to federal and state security officials: “A technique commonly taught in Afghan terrorist training camps is the use/conversion of pressure cookers into [improvised explosive devices],” the bulletin warned.




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That bulletin cited several plots from 2002 to 2004 to use pressure-cooker bombs in France, India and Nepal. But more recently there have been at least three other instances of would-be terrorists in the West, all of them Islamic radicals, in possession of pressure cookers for reasons that seemed not to involve having friends over for dinner. One was an Army private linked to the 2009 Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan, who had reportedly been taking bombmaking tips from al-Qaeda’s short-lived (literally) online magazine Inspire and had various weapons and explosives along with his cooking pot. (The magazine reportedly recommended pressure cookers as explosive devices.) A 2010 suicide bomber in Stockholm had rigged a pressure-cooker bomb that failed to detonate. And as a newer DHS warning about the kitchen devices noted, the failed 2010 SUV bomb in New York’s Times Square was a pressure-cooker device containing 120 firecrackers. The same DHS memo refers to a March 2010 bombing with a pressure cooker at a Western Christian aid agency in Pakistan that killed six people.

Counterterrorism officials are surely well aware of these facts and studying any related leads.




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Step-by-step instructions for making pressure cooker bombs were published in an article titled "Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom" in the Al-Qaeda-linked Inspire magazine in the summer of 2010, by "The AQ chef".




Read up on the history you probably don't know about, but cops and gov. agencies do...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure_cooker_bomb


-There's been at least two major warning memos circulated amongst gov. agencies prior to the attacks.  You can be sure there are plenty more now.

-Pressure cookers are well linked to Al-Qaeda methods and online bomb-making guides.

-PCs were used in or linked to at least 4 recent US terror attacks.  Fort Hood(2009), Times Square(2010), U.S.-based Christian aid group World Vision International(2010), and now Boston(2013).


So there's been 4 major pressure cooker bomb terrorism incidents in the last 5 years.

I don't see how anyone of even moderate intelligence can think that buying a PC right after a major terrorist attack, in the same damn city it happened, is not going to throw up a big fat red flag.

It's highly likely that a shady character buying multiple large pressure cookers, way outside of canning season, at the time and place we're talking about, is going to get reported.  From there you're going right on a watch list, then they're going to investigate you.  Unless the investigation turns up that you're an A+ upstanding canning mom with a farm or large garden you're going to be on that list the rest of your life.

That's just a huge and extremely stupid risk for absolutely no reason.  That someone would call me an idiot for pointing out something so fucking obvious just blows my mind.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: fastfred] * 1
    #18149876 - 04/22/13 01:29 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

Of course DHS knows about PC explosives, the CIA is responsible for teaching al Qaeda all about them when they prepped them for battle against the Soviets.  But being afraid that purchasing 3 of them right now is just paranoia.  You think you'll be watched over it? News flash, you already are bein watched.  Approximately half of all communications in the states are subject to surveillance under the patriot act and it's roving wiretap clause.  This number grows exponentially each year.

By your pressure cookers and quit letting them win the war on your mind.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: fastfred]
    #18149887 - 04/22/13 01:30 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

What Fastfred said. Why chance getting a knock at the door?


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: oxana]
    #18149915 - 04/22/13 01:35 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

Frankly, I think you guys are paranoid.

The government is not going to knock down anyone's doors just because they bought a pressure cooker. The bombers could have used anything. Paint cans, metal boxes, anything. Your neighbor might look at you funny if they see you bringing it home (which is doubtful), but aside from that nothing is going to come from it. It's a kitchen utensil. I don't hear you guys saying you should avoid buying nails even though the bombs were filled with nails.

Exactly nothing will happen, it's just a kitchen utensil. No one assumes you're going to stab someone if you buy a good set of knives.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: nooneman]
    #18150202 - 04/22/13 02:16 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

Every last one of these statements:People call shit in all the time.  The cops have nothing better to do than spend your tax money snooping around and harassing citizens of all types.

We have the lowest crime rate in recorded history and the highest number of cops and police funding.

is unsupported.
People? What people would "call it in"? The person you bought it from? The mailman? WHERE would they call it? CIA? FBI? Local police?
Cops don't spend tax money, town/city councils do. If you have ever actually used a law enforcement agency you'd know that they are in fact VERY selective about what they will and will not pursue. "Snooping" ? What does that even mean? Do you think there are people sifting through your mail? Harassing citizens of all types?

Lowest crime in recorded history- not even logically sound- I'm pretty sure grand theft auto was lower a thousand years ago, but I'd like to know where you got your numbers. Highest number of cops (um, no.), those statements don't even make logical sense... what crimes?
Spare time? Piles of cash?!!! WHAT?!!! From municipal to federal I assure you that law enforcement has neither manpower, time,  nor funding in surplus. And every sector of public work has scaled back in the last 10 years.


Instead of making things up provide some evidence to back it up.

And to get back to the main point, who CARES if in the one in a MILLION chance someone questioning you about your purchase. IT'S FOR GROWING MUSHROOMS. The end.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: Franquixote]
    #18150529 - 04/22/13 03:18 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

> Frankly, I think you guys are paranoid.

It's not about being paranoid, it's about being smart vs. being stupid.

> The government is not going to knock down anyone's doors just because they bought a pressure cooker.

Of course not.  They're going to put you on a list and watch you or come to your door and question you.  Either way it's stupid to subject yourself to that when you're doing something illegal.

> The bombers could have used anything. Paint cans, metal boxes, anything.

But they didn't, they used PCs.  The terrorist literature is full of suggestions to use PCs to make your easy-to-get, cheap explosives more powerful.

> I don't hear you guys saying you should avoid buying nails even though the bombs were filled with nails.

Again, nails aren't the subject of inter-agency memos and thousands of news reports about being terrorist related.  Nails aren't out-of-season, nor are they an uncommon purchase.  Your analogy is stupid on its face, and the fact you don't realize this is disturbing.

> Instead of making things up provide some evidence to back it up.

Get a clue.  Why would I cite and support commonly known facts?  Look it up yourself.  I guess I'm giving the generally ignorant about life too much credit.

Violent crime is the lowest it's been since we started keeping records.  All this despite more frequent crime reporting, better record keeping, and more police available to look for crimes and take reports.

If you aren't aware that crime is way down, police spending is way up, and our incarceration rate is the highest in the world... you really need a broad and general education in basic facts.


Sorry to burst your fantasy world bubble, but do a little research and learn something about the world you live in.
Google "US violent crime statistics", "US incarceration rate", "law enforcement budget", "DEA budget", "homeland security budget", "usa police per capita", etc., etc..

Sorry to slap your face with the facts, but you really should know this shit. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
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In the long term, violent crime in the United States has been in decline since colonial times.[9]




Has a politician ever run on a "cut police spending", "soft on crime" platform?
It just doesn't happen.  The crime rate could be zero and a "tough on crime" politician will beat his opponent every time.

Why this is the case and the reasons our political system is so broken is WAY beyond the scope of how much I can educate you in this thread.  But you should really know at least the basic facts and statistics.


It all comes down to the very basic facts of the current situation.  People are afraid of terrorists.  People know that terrorists use pressure cookers in their bombs.  Employees know they don't sell a lot of pressure cookers in the off-season.  They want to stop terrorism.  They want the fame of stopping a terrorist plot.  It's very easy to get your plates and call in a tip.  There is no downside to reporting you and they feel they're doing their patriotic duty.  Cops have a lot of free time.  Gov. agencies have NOTHING ELSE to do but follow tips.

For the average person in Boston right now it would be just plain stupid to buy a pressure cooker.  Worst case scenario you get on a watch list and harassed.  Best case, and you're helping terrorists by making it harder for the cops to catch the real terrorists making PC bombs.

For someone doing something illegal and trying to stay off the radar... it's downright RETARDED.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: fastfred]
    #18151206 - 04/22/13 05:13 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

Ok so I have concluded something from this thread. If your name is MUHAMED or some form thereof you should avoid buying pressure  cookers. If you dabble in websites that talk about causing harm to america or its allies you should avoid buying pressure cookers. If your name is John Smith you are fine to buy pressure cookers.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: fastfred]
    #18151222 - 04/22/13 05:17 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

HAHAHAHA I don't know why I even bother arguing with people like you ... the article YOU posted starts off with a chart CLEARLY showing what you are saying is nonsense and in the first paragraph:

current crime rates are approximately the same as those of the 1960s


NO ONE IS KEEPING LISTS OF PEOPLE BUYING PRESSURE COOKERS lol
in fact, genius, THE GOVERNMENT ISN'T EVEN ALLOWED TO KEEP RECORDS ON WHO OWNS GUNS.

I pity you if you really believe your own nonsense. The "off season" HAHAHAHAHA really dude? Ever hear of stew, because I make it all year long. Pressure cookers aren't even canners you nincompoop. While some canners can be used as pressure cookers they are two completely different things.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: zMan]
    #18151251 - 04/22/13 05:23 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

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If your name is John Smith you are fine to buy pressure cookers.





Unless you grow illegal mushrooms, in which case it would be a real bad idea to buy anything that could result in a knock and talk or garbage searches.


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NO ONE IS KEEPING LISTS OF PEOPLE BUYING PRESSURE COOKERS lol
in fact, genius, THE GOVERNMENT ISN'T EVEN ALLOWED TO KEEP RECORDS ON WHO OWNS GUNS.




Correct.  However if I see some who looks like they aren't into canning buying a pressure cooker and call in a tip, that person will get investigated quite thoroughly.

The tip could come from the cashier, other store customers, store security, etc.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18151480 - 04/22/13 06:08 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

True that Allen, OP never stated he was intending on growing cubes. For all we know he might be growing lots of edibles in which case my advice is sound. OP be more clear gosh!


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: zMan]
    #18151696 - 04/22/13 06:45 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

Thread is full of fail.
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Nice job avoiding all of my points fastfred. Good job acting butthurt and avoiding the rest of my post.

PC can be used for cooking, not just canning. Also preppers are buying them off the shelves. Some of these people are literally canning half of what they cook. There are many sold at my small town's Walmart PER DAY. Ever heard of people growing mushrooms? They use them too FYI. There are over 2k on ebay right now. Anyone who thinks only a couple of PCs are sold per month in Boston this time of the year is a moron, bottomline.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: zMan]
    #18151894 - 04/22/13 07:14 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

:facepalm: All this over a fucking pressure cooker?  Get real folks.


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    #18151962 - 04/22/13 07:23 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

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:facepalm: All this over a fucking pressure cooker?  Get real folks.




No, that would be silly. It's all over 3 pressure cookers.


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    #18152085 - 04/22/13 07:39 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

:rofl:


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    #18153293 - 04/22/13 11:31 PM (11 years, 29 days ago)

> Nice job avoiding all of my points fastfred.

You don't seem to have any points except foolish head-in-the-sand idiocy.

Only RETARDS and terrorists are buying pressure cookers in the off-season mere days after a terrorist PC bomb goes off in their town.  If you think different then you probably fit in one of those categories.

Plain old common sense, apparently not so common here.

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NO ONE IS KEEPING LISTS OF PEOPLE BUYING PRESSURE COOKERS lol
in fact, genius, THE GOVERNMENT ISN'T EVEN ALLOWED TO KEEP RECORDS ON WHO OWNS GUNS.




The government keeps lists of everything.  The FBI is particularly famous for keeping lists.  Read a little history and educate yourself before you spout nonsense.

The gov. kept huge lists of peace protesters for christ sakes.  Reams of names and photographs of people involved in peace organizations.  They used spies to infiltrate organizations and took thousands of photographs of the people peace rallies.  This is well documented and well known to most people with a basic education.

And the government keeps records of ALL gun sales by manufacturers and dealers.  The only thing they aren't allowed to do is compile these into a list, and that's only because of a special law preventing them from doing this, and applies only to guns.

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Pressure cookers aren't even canners you nincompoop. While some canners can be used as pressure cookers they are two completely different things.




A pressure cooker is a canner.  Why are you arguing here when you don't even know what a PC is?

I can't help but be dismayed at the extreme level of ignorance about the basic nature of our society displayed here.  Anyone with an IQ over 60 is going to reconsider buying a PC in the same city as, and just days after, a major terrorist attack using them.

People report all kinds of stupid stuff all the time.  The investigators are getting thousands of tips every day.  Odds are very high that you're going to get reported if you buy a PC in Boston right now.

They don't throw these tips away, they file them and make lists from them.  They'll investigate you and if you're lucky they'll decide you're not worth a follow up.  If they don't like your answers or what they find they'll continue to investigate you.  Either way you're on a list of suspicious people buying potential bomb making supplies for the rest of your life.

If you think all that is going to make your life easier then go ahead.  Please don't post here crying about how you get pulled aside for extra scrutiny every time you get on a plane.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: fastfred]
    #18153529 - 04/23/13 12:58 AM (11 years, 29 days ago)

Bull shit...  there is a paper chase they can , But for them to do an investigation on every possible thing that could be used as a bomb is a very stupid idea.  If there was a pressure cooker bombing unsolved... yes there would be an investigation.      So when you buy your pressure cooker buy some jars also and dont look like a paranoid killer.  Smfh...


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    #18153556 - 04/23/13 01:12 AM (11 years, 29 days ago)

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Bull shit...  there is a paper chase they can , But for them to do an investigation on every possible thing that could be used as a bomb is a very stupid idea.  If there was a pressure cooker bombing unsolved... yes there would be an investigation.      So when you buy your pressure cooker buy some jars also and dont look like a paranoid killer.  Smfh...





This.

And if you're really worried about red flags, and taking your paranoia to this level, what the hell are you doing on a public forum?  NSA has a data center in Utah that collects alllll packets going out of alllll major ISPs in America.  You know what this means?  Your proxy doesn't do shit.  Your tor connection doesn't do shit.  They have all the packets they need coming from the backend of the server.

Even if they were monitoring sales of pressure cookers, all they would do is run a query on your online profile.  If you don't participate in Jihadist/militant/extremist forums that do nothing but hate on America and dream up their terrorist plots,  they're probably not going to give a shit what you do with your pressure cookers.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: fastfred]
    #18153560 - 04/23/13 01:16 AM (11 years, 29 days ago)

I find it odd that you resort to subtly or overtly insulting people who don't agree with you.

You know how many PCs are sold in the US every day? How about just on Amazon alone? Or through walmart, every day? None of those people will get a knock and talk. None of them will be placed on watch lists. The government absolutely will not investigate a single person who buys a PC. Not a single one. It's not about "smart people" and "stupid people." It's about being realistic.

Your idea that the government is keeping "lists of everything" makes me think that this belongs in the conspiracy forum more than security and safety.

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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: nooneman]
    #18153612 - 04/23/13 01:42 AM (11 years, 29 days ago)

:takingnotes: you're all going on my shit list!


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: Ghost4]
    #18153957 - 04/23/13 06:42 AM (11 years, 28 days ago)

You're probably right that no one is going to come knocking or investigate most if any people buying PC's. but buying three right now might raise some eyebrows. The way I see it is it's just an added unnecessary risk of getting a knock on the door. Y'all do what you like but I for one would rather be a little paranoid for a little while than be a lot in prison for a long while.


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: fastfred]
    #18154791 - 04/23/13 11:16 AM (11 years, 28 days ago)

How many americans know how to weld and build their own canisters  :hi:


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Put water in a cup, it becomes the cup.  Put water in a tea pot, it becomes the tea pot.  Water can crash or water can flow.  Be water my friend. 


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: jjhitman]
    #18154806 - 04/23/13 11:19 AM (11 years, 28 days ago)

would I?  Fuck no!  But it would be cheaper and I could make it better.  :wink:  let me repeat...  I would never..!  :lamastare:


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Re: should i wait to buy my pressure cookers [Re: oxana]
    #18155017 - 04/23/13 11:19 AM (11 years, 28 days ago)

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