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Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving?
#18139950 - 04/20/13 11:48 AM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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What would one do if someone sent them a package that had stuff they didn't want, illegal stuff? How do they not receive it???
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loginname1
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#18140045 - 04/20/13 12:13 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why would anyone not want illegal stuff?
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loginname1
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: loginname1]
#18140047 - 04/20/13 12:15 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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But I guess you could tell them not to send it to you.
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Anonymous #2
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: loginname1] 1
#18140050 - 04/20/13 12:15 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Take your mailbox out of the ground and bring it in your house.
Than when the mailman comes to your door with the package, refuse to accept it.
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10KOysters
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: Anonymous #2]
#18140110 - 04/20/13 12:31 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Forward it to me?
I'll dispose of it for you.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: 10KOysters]
#18140665 - 04/20/13 03:11 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its too late to tell them not to send it, they just told me they already sent it. I was trading plants on a botanical trading site and after my package was received, they sent it out without clarifying with me what I would get in return and on top of legal plants was sent 2 khat plants. I understand this was prob in good heart but I would DEFINITELY not have wanted the khat plants. What do I do? I am 18 but live at home still, I don't want myself or anyone to get fucked.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#18140671 - 04/20/13 03:12 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't worry about it, khat plants don't look like drugs.
I have a couple that are a few years old, they are doing really well.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#18140695 - 04/20/13 03:17 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright, what would happen if it were found though?
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#18140744 - 04/20/13 03:29 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Like how do you "return to sender" or whatever,
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#18141135 - 04/20/13 05:20 PM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Absolutely nothing will come of this so don't worry. The only time they ever prosecute for khat is when large quantities are being imported into the country. Enjoy your plants and grow them out.
-------------------- “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835) Trade list http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18047755
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: Stonehenge] 1
#18142716 - 04/21/13 12:21 AM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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Live khat plants probably aren't illegal anyways, and there's zero chance of ever getting busted unless they're labeled in big letters all over the box AND on a label tied around the actual plants "illegal khat plant material". Even then, unless they also included color photos, botanical information, and citations of whatever law might make them illegal, the chances are very slim of any problem.
If you really want to be an ass and refuse the package you just write "Return to Sender" on the package and put it back in the mail box.
Essentially you'd just be tripling your (almost nonexistant) chances of trouble. If you did that to me and it caused a problem, I'd claim you were scamming the PO of postage AND mailing ME the illegal drugs.
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: fastfred]
#18144856 - 04/21/13 01:56 PM (11 years, 30 days ago) |
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Quote:
fastfred said: Live khat plants probably aren't illegal anyways, and there's zero chance of ever getting busted unless they're labeled in big letters all over the box AND on a label tied around the actual plants "illegal khat plant material".
I do not agree with this. I believe the first statement is flat-out wrong. I have read about khat busts on the DEA site. It's not a huge or common item of concern for them, but I believe a khat plant in any form is illegal.
And I wouldn't say there is "zero" chance. However, if it's interstate and not passing through customs, I'd say your chances at staying safe aren't bad.
Damn. Not to sound...whatever... but I'd suck a dick for some live khat plants.

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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: CidneyIndole]
#18145786 - 04/21/13 04:58 PM (11 years, 30 days ago) |
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> I have read about khat busts on the DEA site.
Yeah, big boxes of cut up plants. Not houseplant type khat. I said "probably" because we don't know what state the OP is in, and I've never seen any law that live plants are illegal.
When the prosecutor is pushing felony charges on some poor kid and whips out this potted houseplant, and the kid says it's just a random unidentified houseplant some guy sent him... the jury is just going to laugh.
You really think they're going to go through hours of expert botanical testimony, pictures, diagrams, charts, and test results just to potentially convince the jury that somehow this is technically illegal? All just to be laughed at when then whip out a standard looking houseplant?
I don't know anybody who would convict on this, let alone 12.
All sorts of things are technically illegal but NEVER prosecuted or enforced. Add to that the 1 in 1,000,000 chance that the package will be search and the searcher will happen to be a botanical expert or former khat addict.
That's why I say it's foolish to worry about.
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: fastfred]
#18146247 - 04/21/13 06:27 PM (11 years, 30 days ago) |
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>That's why I say it's foolish to worry about.
Agreed
-------------------- “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835) Trade list http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18047755
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: Stonehenge]
#18147134 - 04/21/13 09:54 PM (11 years, 30 days ago) |
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Alright, so how could you tell if a controlled delivery was occurring? I don't think anything will happen as you all have said, but I have been feeling extremely paranoid lately for some reason, maybe due to some new medication I've been taking... Idk..
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fastfred
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#18147549 - 04/21/13 11:53 PM (11 years, 30 days ago) |
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The whole idea with a controlled delivery is that you wouldn't know it's happening.
Seems you don't have much experience with the system. They don't give two shits about this sort of thing. It's worth no points to them and is unlikely to be a good case for them. Cops want big busts and open and shut cases, this would be neither.
Some people here say to bring the package inside and write "Return to Sender" on it and leave it by the door for a day or two. I think that's pretty good advice.
-FF
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: fastfred]
#18148446 - 04/22/13 05:30 AM (11 years, 29 days ago) |
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Alright cool. I feel a lot better now. Thanks guys.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#18149591 - 04/22/13 12:42 PM (11 years, 29 days ago) |
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So I received it mailman didn't ring doorbell or anything, I wrote refused and brought it to the mailbox. If I leave it wait there for a while and it's still there is it safe to open?
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fastfred
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#18149677 - 04/22/13 12:56 PM (11 years, 29 days ago) |
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Well, you're supposed to write "Return to Sender", writing something odd on the package who knows what the PO would do with it. And you should have brought it inside since if anyone's watching you they know you didn't take the bait yet.
Just take off your tinfoil hat and enjoy the package.
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Re: Someone sends you a package you didnt agree to receiving? [Re: fastfred]
#18149763 - 04/22/13 01:08 PM (11 years, 29 days ago) |
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Oh I wrote both. Man so if they are watching me I need to bring it in.. Alright.
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