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OfflineMalachi
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why do minorities make less money than whites?
    #1813985 - 08/14/03 04:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

LDS tells me that there is no such thing as white privilege, that actually it is the minorities who are taking advantage of the good hardworking white people.

so, considering that whites, despite their collective disadvantage, still manage to make more money and have a severely disproportionate presence in our gov't.

my only conclusions can be
1. whites are the master race or
2. whites, and more specifically whites such as LDS, are racists.


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: Malachi]
    #1814006 - 08/14/03 04:56 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Looking at your rating you hardly qualify to talk about others as racist... :nonono:


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: Malachi]
    #1814021 - 08/14/03 04:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Since I believe that race shouldn't be a consideration in anything, and you believe it should.... I don't think there's much doubt who the racist is.


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1814072 - 08/14/03 05:14 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Since I believe that race shouldn't be a consideration in anything, and you believe it should.... I don't think there's much doubt who the racist is.




by "shouldn't be a consideration", you mean that there ought to be equal terms of competition, right? so since minorities are losing, despite their "cheating" (in the hillybillies eyes), they must just be worse at competing, don't you think? there's no getting out of this, answer the question -- or forever realize that hillbillies can't think.


and to Azmodeus -- my rating really should not matter, irrelevant grounds and all. but really, I'd way rather be unpopular on an internet message board than be popular.


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: Malachi]
    #1814078 - 08/14/03 05:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Is hillbilly the racist term you use to describe whites?


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1814086 - 08/14/03 05:17 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

no, hillbilly is the term to use to describe hillbillies (like LDS).


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: Malachi]
    #1814102 - 08/14/03 05:24 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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by "shouldn't be a consideration", you mean that there ought to be equal terms of competition, right?



What is it about race shouldn't be a consideration that you're not smart enough to grasp?


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so since minorities are losing



They aren't. Losers are losing, no matter what their race.


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  they must just be worse at competing, don't you think?



No, I don't think they are worse at competing. For any race... the smart ones get ahead, the stupid ones don't and tend to lean towards racism as a means to get ahead when they don't deserve it. Which explains you, you racist prick.


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I'd way rather be unpopular on an internet message board than be popular. 



Lucky for you, that's how it worked out.

:kiss:


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1814117 - 08/14/03 05:27 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

And by 'smart' he means those willing to do whatever it takes to get to the top, no matter the cost, waste, or unscropulous actions they must do to get there.

That is not success.....it is greed, and it is destroying us. But that is how some people judge thier success and self worth. Pity such people, for they will always be pursuing something they cannot have.


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1814735 - 08/14/03 08:24 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

fuck off.


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: Malachi]
    #1814744 - 08/14/03 08:27 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Malachi said:
fuck off.



The brilliance of your rebuttal astounds me.


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: Malachi]
    #1814795 - 08/14/03 08:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

to answer your question:

whites generally have access to better education and thus have a greater presence in high-paying professional jobs than blacks do.

the solution you say: force companies to hire blacks.

typical shortsighted liberal thinking.


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: Malachi]
    #1814970 - 08/14/03 09:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Many members of monorities suffer from racism. Thing is, most of the racism they suffer from is from them being prejudiced against themselved for their race.



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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: ]
    #1814990 - 08/14/03 09:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

mushmaster said:
to answer your question:

whites generally have access to better education and thus have a greater presence in high-paying professional jobs than blacks do.

the solution you say: force companies to hire blacks.

typical shortsighted liberal thinking.



I agree that the problem is not so much the businesses, but rather education. We need to provide better educational opportunities for the lower classes, and no, I'm not talking about affirmative action in colleges. I'm talking about improving the conditions in inner-city schools.


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1815037 - 08/14/03 09:55 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

My girlfriend is very pro-affirmative action, and we've had a lot of debate on this subject (since I'm neutral, I play devil's advocate against AA with her). She agrees that the root cause of the problem is that so many minorities are educated in the worst schools in the country. If that problem can be corrected, then things may get better. If that isn't corrected (and it doesn't look like it will be anytime soon), then she feels other steps are necessary to make up for the poor education, such as AA.


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: Cornholio]
    #1815072 - 08/14/03 10:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The problem with AA is that it doesn't really get anyone out of poverty. It just takes the minorities who already have a good education to gain a slight edge against whites, when even without it, they wouldn't have it that bad. AA doesn't do shit for people brought up in lower-income families.


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1815114 - 08/14/03 10:27 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Agreed.


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: Cornholio]
    #1815225 - 08/14/03 11:00 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

the best education in the world won't help people who don't want to learn. lifestyles need to change to accomodate ANY sort of change..



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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: ]
    #1815260 - 08/14/03 11:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Morrowind said:
the best education in the world won't help people who don't want to learn. lifestyles need to change to accomodate ANY sort of change..


I agree with the first part, but could you expound on the second part a little?


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Re: why do minorities make less money than whites? [Re: Cornholio]
    #1815304 - 08/14/03 11:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

well if youre going to consider race at all ( stastically, even though i hate statistics.. a double edged blade.. ), then minorities make the least money on average- as was pointed out in the beginning of this thread. I'm going to assume that having less money is *somehow* related to not having as good an education as opposed to having lots of money.

Generally, poor people live on a basis of raising money to not starve.. and a quick look at most of the youth in such places reveals emphasis on helping their parents or just chilling- doing basic kid things.. I don't think that any kids really *want* to learn ( a fundamental flaw in the American *public* school system, IMO.. ill explain that later if you want ).

Hrm. IMO education is sufficiently good right now to have an educated populous- libraries and such provide lots of education resources. Right now those things are being overlooked for some reason or other- a system is in place and it's not working. Alas, I am very sleepy right now and delerious from my stench ( i MUST take a shower soon.. right after this post in fact ).

It has been my experience that the lower class has more potential to ACTUALLY learn things because it is more inclined towards using free things as opposed to the upper class hiring babysitting tutors to show kids how to bypass having to know anything..

just to mix up this post some more,
stupidity is everywhere in HUGE amounts. potential to alleviate it is different- that is all I can see- difference. ( it's alleviated by free thought and action that breaks from tradition in at least some way.. but sometimes the effort is crushed. now im getting spiritual and very ranty. )

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