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Invisiblee7c
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why are my caps breaking up?
    #1813833 - 08/14/03 04:04 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

info: thai KS on popcorn, 50/50+ casing, first flush

the caps in this picture are looking kinda broken up, is there anything that causes this? is it bad?
Also, it looks like they've stopped growing and are dropping spores, with a height less than 2". What could have caused this?



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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: e7c]
    #1813861 - 08/14/03 04:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

could be low air exchange. what do use for your terrarium? are the stems splitting?


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #1813891 - 08/14/03 04:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'm far from a pro, but that looks like scaling. I think it's caused by drying


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: wietstocker]
    #1813946 - 08/14/03 04:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i think, wietstocker is correct .
casing is drying out . rh is too low .
otherwise, they look like healthy portabellos . :lol: 


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: deanofmean]
    #1814528 - 08/14/03 07:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

looks like dry air to me


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    #1814532 - 08/14/03 07:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1814593 - 08/14/03 07:52 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

^^^^ agreed

you want everything to stay moist and not wet becuase too much water is bad.


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1816197 - 08/15/03 08:17 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

the bottom of the container is lined with wet perlite, is this sufficient, or is misting necessary as well?


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: e7c]
    #1816821 - 08/15/03 02:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I would never use wet perlite at the bottom of the substrate this can be a contams paradise.Yes you still have to mist when the casing is looking dry but don't over mist it your just want everything moist not wet.Do you have that tray in some sort of grow camber or do you have a lid on it to keep the humidity up?Because misting will help keep the humidity up aswell which is also needed.You don't need as much humidity when you are casing as you do for cakes but never the lest you still need humidity


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1817161 - 08/15/03 03:49 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i think he meant that the perlite is under the casing, in the terrarium. that sounds fine to me if the casing is 50/50, etc.

If its dry like that, obviously the wet perlite isnt enough. start misting.


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1817352 - 08/15/03 04:53 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Psilocybin_monkey said:
I would never use wet perlite at the bottom of the substrate this can be a contams paradise. 




i do. no problems so far.  :thumbup: 


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1817479 - 08/15/03 05:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

you must use moist perlite you mean and with h202


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1817480 - 08/15/03 05:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

you must be lucky :smile:


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: e7c]
    #1817588 - 08/15/03 05:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

mist the casing layer, but try to avoid spraying directly on the pins .
tip;
if you don't have it in a terarium, drape some clear plastic film over it loosely. this will help keep rh up . the mushrooms will push the plastic up as they grow .
keep edges of the casing tray dry so the plastic doesn't stick to it .


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1819419 - 08/16/03 11:22 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Psilocybin_monkey said:
you must use moist perlite you mean and with h202




yea, i use h202. i even put some perlite, verm and BRF in a jar. no sign of mycelium yet, but that was a few days ago.


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1819434 - 08/16/03 11:43 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

MsPacMan said:
Quote:

Psilocybin_monkey said:
you must use moist perlite you mean and with h202




yea, i use h202. i even put some perlite, verm and BRF in a jar. no sign of mycelium yet, but that was a few days ago.




when i made my jars up, i used perlite and BRF(misinformation from wally world employee being reason for this) and full colonization occured in under 2 weeks so u should have no problem


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: floridaboi101]
    #1819474 - 08/16/03 12:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

LOL im surprised yours worked with all perlite. that stuff just sucks the water up.


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1819566 - 08/16/03 01:12 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

well i dont know how it worked but it definitely did. though i wont use that recipe again cuz only one jar remained contam free.


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1819793 - 08/16/03 02:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

MsPacMan said:
Quote:

Psilocybin_monkey said:
you must use moist perlite you mean and with h202




yea, i use h202. i even put some perlite, verm and BRF in a jar. no sign of mycelium yet, but that was a few days ago.




h202 will kill spores so if you used h202 in your jars the spore are dead that why they never germinated yet


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Re: why are my caps breaking up? [Re: Psilocybin_monkey]
    #1821706 - 08/17/03 02:57 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i didn't put the h202 in my jars, but thats good to know that it kills spores. so i guess you have to use it sparingly to mist casings?


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