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Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum
    #1813677 - 08/14/03 03:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Tibetan Buddhists believe that saying the mantra (prayer), Om Mani Padme Hum, out loud or silently to oneself, invokes the powerful benevolent attention and blessings of Chenrezig, the embodiment of compassion. Viewing the written form of the mantra is said to have the same effect -- it is often carved into stones, like the one pictured above, and placed where people can see them.
Spinning the written form of the mantra around in a Mani wheel (or prayer wheel) is also believed to give the same benefit as saying the mantra, and Mani wheels, small hand wheels and large wheels with millions of copies of the mantra inside, are found everywhere in the lands influenced by Tibetan Buddhism.
http://www.dharma-haven.org/tibetan/meaning-of-om-mani-padme-hung.htm


"There is not a single aspect of the eighty-four thousand sections of the Buddha's teachings which is not contained in Avalokiteshvara's six syllable mantra "Om Mani Padme Hum", and as such the qualities of the "mani" are praised again and again in the Sutras and Tantras.... Whether happy or sad, if we take the "mani" as our refuge, Chenrezig will never forsake us, spontaneous devotion will arise in our minds and the Great Vehicle will effortlessly be realized."
Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche
-- Heart Treasure of the Enlightened Ones


People who learn about the mantra naturally want to know what it means, and often ask for a translation into English or some other Western language. However, Om Mani Padme Hum can not really be translated into a simple phrase or even a few sentences.
All of the Dharma is based on Buddha's discovery that suffering is unnecessary: Like a disease, once we really face the fact that suffering exists, we can look more deeply and discover it's cause; and when we discover that the cause is dependent on certain conditions, we can explore the possibility of removing those conditions.

Buddha taught many very different methods for removing the cause of suffering, methods appropriate for the very different types and conditions and aptitudes of suffering beings. For those who had the capacity to understand it, he taught the most powerful method of all, a method based on the practice of compassion. It is known as the Mahayana, or Great Vehicle, because practicing it benefits all beings, without partiality. It is likened to a vast boat that carries all the beings in the universe across the sea of suffering.


The rest of this is at
http://www.dharma-haven.org/tibetan/meaning-of-om-mani-padme-hung.htm#Meaning


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Rastafari]
    #1813851 - 08/14/03 04:11 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

To the western mind, non-English phrases/chants/mantras seem to carry more power (this was covered in another thread).

Try chanting "Don't(a) worry; be happy!" for a few months and report back.


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Swami]
    #1813858 - 08/14/03 04:14 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I guess certain tones held continously activate certain sensation areas in our bodies.. don't know if that applies here or not, don't know too much about it, maybe someone else does?
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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: fireworks_god]
    #1813918 - 08/14/03 04:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i think it does apply


also these sacred syllables were devized by people who imbibed them with alot of love and compassion

long long time ago too

like reciting the prayer of st. francis

"lord, make me an instrument of thy peace"

thats a powerful thing because that is what the saint used to say before he helped tons of people.... i can definitely dig it


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Rastafari]
    #1813932 - 08/14/03 04:39 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

"lord, make me an instrument of thy peace"

Um, these "sacred syllables" were spoken in latin or Italian by St. Francis of Assisi; not English; so you get minimal benefit unless you speak them in their original form.



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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Swami]
    #1813997 - 08/14/03 04:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

they come from the acient language of Sanskrit(sp?) and that is a consious languauge in that every word or sylable is designed to effect your nervous system in certain ways so that if you say them over and over again as with a mantra it takes you into a certain state of consiousness.

its beleived by some that the pyramids were contructed for meditation practices because if you sit inside and say mantras while your meditating the way the pyramids are shaped from the inside makes your voice have certain vibrations and helps with the prosess of the nervous system and such.


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Vulture]
    #1814191 - 08/14/03 05:44 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

...never heard that pyramid theory before...


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Swami]
    #1814547 - 08/14/03 07:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Swami said:
"lord, make me an instrument of thy peace"

Um, these "sacred syllables" were spoken in latin or Italian by St. Francis of Assisi; not English; so you get minimal benefit unless you speak them in their original form.







whats up with all the ego brotha...you dont sound like a Swami to me

^i hope you dont take offense to that...i've been hanging out with real Swami's since I was a youngin....they are the most sweetest intelligent funny people i know in this world


that saying has a special meaning to me...and, about the syllables... I was reffering to the Hindu Mantra's, which are reffered to in the scriptures as Sacred Syllables imbibed with Shakti.

i'm not free from ego either, so I appologize if you take offense to anything i've said

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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Rastafari]
    #1814565 - 08/14/03 07:45 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i'm confused though becuase you just said yourself that western words/chants/mantras have more power?

not trying to argue at all here....this convo has gotten a bit off track and I appologize

I just really really beleive and have seen proof in the power of the hindu Mantras


also... I really dont agree with the minimal benefit statement...

understanding the meaning of saint francises prayer is a very important thing.... if western people only read the latin/italian books they wouldnt sit through the whole thing.


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Vulture]
    #1814590 - 08/14/03 07:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Vulture said:
they come from the acient language of Sanskrit(sp?) and that is a consious languauge in that every word or sylable is designed to effect your nervous system in certain ways so that if you say them over and over again as with a mantra it takes you into a certain state of consiousness.

its beleived by some that the pyramids were contructed for meditation practices because if you sit inside and say mantras while your meditating the way the pyramids are shaped from the inside makes your voice have certain vibrations and helps with the prosess of the nervous system and such.




yeah... I truely beleive in the power of reciting the name of god....in any language...but especially ones that were designed by people out of compassion for the suffering of humanity

i've never heard that about the pyramids...it definitely makes sense that they were created for spiritual purposes...great care was put into aligning and designing them


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Rastafari]
    #1814644 - 08/14/03 08:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I like chanting mantras in other languages, because it is more fun and interesting as I am so used to english.


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1814764 - 08/14/03 08:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

ditto...

also these mantras, cant truely be "translated" into english...you can get a rough translation and intent...but the whole universe was in mind when they were created...


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Rastafari]
    #1814776 - 08/14/03 08:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

ya, there are a lot of words in chinese that they have no words for here.


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1814788 - 08/14/03 08:37 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I forget which culture this is...but they dont mention "you" or "we" or "she" because that unidentifies you with your source

also in tibet they wont say thank you...you just accept the gift... i guess thats a way of saying god gives us everything


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Rastafari]
    #1815144 - 08/14/03 10:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

understanding the meaning of saint francises prayer is a very important thing

Understanding is quite different than the syllables themselves, is it not?


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Rastafari]
    #1815149 - 08/14/03 10:35 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

also in tibet they wont say thank you

Also in New York City...


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Swami]
    #1815428 - 08/15/03 12:24 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Om Namah Shivaya


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Rastafari]
    #1815507 - 08/15/03 01:07 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The sacred syllables have a hard time staving off hunger, or the Chinese for that matter. Maybe energy is better spent in other more practical activities rather than chanting.


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Swami]
    #1815536 - 08/15/03 01:15 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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The sacred syllables have a hard time staving off hunger, or the Chinese for that matter. Maybe energy is better spent in other more practical activities rather than chanting.





It makes me sad that you chose such of a name, when not knowing about what a Swami is...

The Sacred Syllables, were designed to "stave off hunger"...

and Chanting is a CRUCIAL part of a Senyassins daily activity (a Swami, a Hindu Monk)


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Re: Sacred Syllables: Om Mani Padme Hum [Re: Rastafari]
    #1815545 - 08/15/03 01:19 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

It makes me sad that you chose such of a name, when not knowing about what a Swami is...

Then you must be sad for all of humanity for we are all ignorant.


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