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LungCheeseFungus
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Re: Waste no grain, use no 'bulk'! •Seed & Plastic• a power Tek with a million reasons [Re: Violet]
#19255193 - 12/10/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I figured you'd like the lids, being the same color as your name and all. Maybe some saran wrap and rubber bands would assist you, but it sounds like you're doing invitro for sterile prints, so maybe not.
"I can easily stack 5-7 high as long as I'm careful when I pick up a stack."
Yea, the careful part, I'm not so good at that. Heh. If I so much as look at a stack of 5, I'm lucky to escape without a broken bone. But on the plus side, I can manage to carry two stacks of four at a time.
I've found it helps, or at least makes me feel better, if I give them a good 10 second shake after cooling off from the PC and tightening the lid down. Seems to be a lot of condensation in them sometimes. I'm still pretty newb, so I'm working on perfect hydration.
1/4"? Yea, that's about how much casing mine got. Jiffy Mix. Cool.
After acquiring my latest piece of high technology laboratory equipment, a microwave, I hope to use the drench & nuke casing prep in your tek next time. I'll post it when the results are in.
Many of my PP5's are completely covered inside, lid and all, with beautiful whiteness. Do I just leave that there or what? I mean the parts that climb up the walls on the PP5's, above the casing. Some turned kind of yellow and it seems like it would help dry the whole thing out.
To anyone about to embark on this journey, be careful when loading the PP5's and doing G2G. If you aren't paying close enough attention and screw the lid down onto a piece of grain, it can get severely trapped between the ridges on the lid, presumably being a contaminate vector. Plus it's a total pain to get out without a good tool.
Edited by LungCheeseFungus (12/10/13 03:26 PM)
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anne halonium
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Re: Waste no grain, use no 'bulk'! •Seed & Plastic• a power Tek with a million reasons [Re: LungCheeseFungus]
#19257672 - 12/10/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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this is how ya keep the bottoms of PP5 grain containers, from turning to mush........ and ensuring a good ,fast , no shake needed grow out.

this mod really counts, as it allows FAE, all around perfectly.
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Edited by anne halonium (12/10/13 09:43 PM)
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LungCheeseFungus
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Re: Waste no grain, use no 'bulk'! •Seed & Plastic• a power Tek with a million reasons [Re: anne halonium]
#19258046 - 12/10/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inter damn esting. So the green thing is his canteen, and it gives him a little extra room to breathe in there huh? Especially after the first flush when he shrinks a little. Well. Might just have to check that out for myself.
What if one was on the top too? Would it be like a very uniform casing?
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anne halonium
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Re: Waste no grain, use no 'bulk'! •Seed & Plastic• a power Tek with a million reasons [Re: LungCheeseFungus]
#19258062 - 12/10/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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yes, , for incubation it creates an FAE area, and for grow out, its perfect for bottom watering.
they can be bleached and re used.
your gonna luv this one lung. it works beyond wildest dreams, i havent had a PP5 gum and stall out in years.
one of several nifty v tek tips, i was holding back on, till i thinned the ostrich out.
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LungCheeseFungus
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Re: Waste no grain, use no 'bulk'! •Seed & Plastic• a power Tek with a million reasons [Re: anne halonium]
#19258876 - 12/11/13 06:24 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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"they can be bleached and re used"
Sounds like you use bleach how I use duct tape. Everywhere you can. I was thinking it would be a lot of work getting one of those cleaned out, but it don't sound so bad now. And the PP5 would be nearly self cleaning with that in the bottom.
So no stalls huh? And IIRC, you play with rice from time to time. Incredible. The only vague memories I have about working with rice from years ago, is don't mess with rice ever again.
"one of several nifty v tek tips, i was holding back on"
I knew it! Ya hoarder. What else you got in there?
Any thing I need to know before I try this on a couple or few dozen PP5's?
Edited by LungCheeseFungus (12/11/13 06:34 AM)
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anne halonium
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Re: Waste no grain, use no 'bulk'! •Seed & Plastic• a power Tek with a million reasons [Re: LungCheeseFungus]
#19259151 - 12/11/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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not really, this one is pretty obvious. it definitely prevents stalling, and improves bottom container FAE.
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Re: Waste no grain, use no 'bulk'! •Seed & Plastic• a power Tek with a million reasons [Re: anne halonium]
#19259805 - 12/11/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Going into my 2nd and hopefully better documented round of using these pp5's I have found that as long as you don't load them 2 high (which doing so really serves no benefit from what I can tell) with grain that once you've done your G2G you can screw them closed and easily leave them for a few days to allow the colonized grains time to recover and begin the recolonization without any issues. I allow them to colonize as much as possible then before the obvious lack of GE starts to slow them down I just go ahead and loosin up the tops some so a little bit of GE is possible.
Recently did 11 containers like that (I made 12 but somehow completely missed one during the G2G process ) and they all fully colonized within 7 days. 3 of them were done at the 4 day mark with zero GE necessary to accomplish this, the other 8 made it to like 80% by day 5 where I loosened up the lids and they finished up by the 7th day. Since they all hit 100% I've had their lids unscrewed as much as possible without the lids falling off when i just hold the container up with my fingers by the lid. 3 weeks of chewing and the first few come up for casing in a couple more days. Will try mark containers and keep track of progress on each this round now that I have an idea how of how things will go with how the containers grow out.
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thelanzii

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Re: Waste no grain, use no 'bulk'! •Seed & Plastic• a power Tek with a million reasons [Re: anne halonium]
#19260715 - 12/11/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edited by thelanzii (12/11/13 09:06 PM)
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anne halonium
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Re: Waste no grain, use no 'bulk'! •Seed & Plastic• a power Tek with a million reasons [Re: thelanzii]
#19260747 - 12/11/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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huh? poms always work fine for me. but this thread isnt about that. nice to see the ostrich looking good on the ranch.
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thelanzii

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Re: Waste no grain, use no 'bulk'! •Seed & Plastic• a power Tek with a million reasons [Re: anne halonium]
#19260787 - 12/11/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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What is demeaning about an ostrich? I figured they may not be up to par, because of the lack of a formal thread.
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ForgottenFreshness
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Re: Waste no grain, use no 'bulk'! •Seed & Plastic• a power Tek with a million reasons [Re: LungCheeseFungus]
#19261011 - 12/11/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good question! +1
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crackacola
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Re: •Seed & Plastic• Myco Match from Heaven: power Tek with a million reasons [Re: Violet]
#19277367 - 12/15/13 12:56 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome tek. I'm interested in making agar out of the RGS juice. Can you give me a quick rundown on this process?
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crackacola
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Great info! RBS is actually cheaper for me. I'm probably going to use a lot of my RBS as spawn though, just because I can get coir for less than $1.00 a brick. The math makes it worth it. Will definitely do a side by side to see which is more viable for me personally.
Questions:
1)I'm not too into casing (lazy). With consolidation do you think these will perform ok w/o a casing? Have you tried it before? Sounds like you have but I'd like to know the difference in final yield. I've already read this thread twice and hope this hasn't been asked since the last time I read it.
2)Would it be ok for me to inoculate w/ an LC syringe, just lifting the lid slightly? Wouldn't be that different from G2G as far as risk, correct? What about MS syringe squirting? Ever tried that?
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crackacola
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Nevermind. I found all the answers already. My bad.
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Violet



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Since much of my growing has moved invitro, especially when heavily into culturing, I have used casing less often.
However for fruiting in some kind of fruiting chamber I insist that a casing is the way to go. I feel pretty strongly that most growers will not reach top results this way without casing.
Nothing about a casing increases yield per se, rather it stops environmental factors from reducing or limiting yield, and provides a wonderful environment on the intended fruiting surface for knots to grow to pins without drying in an instant with an air exchange.
Someone who goes through the procedures of preparing and inoculating bulk substrates believes they are too "lazy" for casing? Hm. Combining casing and bottom-watering eliminates the largeness of bulk storage, treatments, procedures, disposals, and dunking. There's much less of casing, and it's far easier to prepare especially using the casing preparation given with this tek.
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FrogMachine
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Re: •Seed & Plastic• Myco Match from Heaven: power Tek with a million reasons [Re: Violet]
#19291133 - 12/17/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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In reply to the general thread I just want to say this whole idea inspired me to try to get my feet wet again on what amounts to my second attempt at mushroom growing...
In vitro, brown rice, grain only, mostly plastic containers... All ideas that are just blowing my mind.
I looooooooooove pictures of bulk bins full of shrooms. Don't get me wrong. I spent all these years lurking half just to look at such pics thinking ooooooooo aaaaaaaaaah...
But the amount you can get out of a little 1L container in one flush is probably more than I use personally in months, and the climate is supposedly easy to maintain.
No pro here so I don't know anything. But this thread brought me back to life, back to trying my hand at this again.
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Re: •Seed & Plastic• Myco Match from Heaven: power Tek with a million reasons [Re: Violet]
#19392444 - 01/09/14 06:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just read the •Seed & Plastic• Myco Match from Heaven: power Tek with a million reasons earlier this morning and thought it was awesome!!!!
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robbinbanks
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Re: •Seed & Plastic• Myco Match from Heaven: power Tek with a million reasons [Re: Violet]
#19408998 - 01/12/14 04:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man this was a great bit of information. I read the whole thing! I wish i would've discovered this and RRs notes right from the beginning. Anywayz, violet, you are a genius and i thank you for sharing your knowledge. I hope i can pay it forward when i get me a routine going. It should be fun regardless!
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CMOS
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Re: casing [Re: Violet]
#19409827 - 01/12/14 07:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Violet said: disposals.
ahh the biggest problem I have with monos. Sucks (not really city is great) being in a apartment. I don't like leaving my droppings in the community dumpster.
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anne halonium
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Re: casing [Re: CMOS]
#19410027 - 01/12/14 08:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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disposal of v tek in urban areas is easy.
throw all used cores into a trash bag add some tomatoe sauce and curry powder.....
even if the trash bag is exposed, its simply a exotic dinner experiment gone bad..........
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