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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: Violet]
    #18248186 - 05/11/13 12:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I am going to give it a shot, but I'll whip up some LC first. So I'll get to the prep, next weekend probably.

I got a couple a lunchbox type PP containers with snap on lids, but I feel they will work nicely.

They'll fit perfectly with my small tub with some space on the sides for perlite. They are a little over two inches deep.

I also got some grass seed:


It's not the typical lawn grass, but I think it's close enough. Also, not the cheapest grain, but very easy to get a hold of. It's around 2x the price of rye by weight, although they are about the same price by volume.

I'll prep the grains as per violets directions. Inoculate with B+ LC.

I think I'll go my own way on the casing prep. I have potting soil that is 90% peat (PH 6), verm and gypsum, but that whole business of making mud of it is a bridge too far for my tastes. I'll just mix it up and pasteurize it like normal. (Or maybe even sterilize it. Haven't decided.)

For fruiting I'll be using a 50l tub with a glass lid, resting on foam strips that allows gas exchange. To this tub is connected ze fizzy bubblech device.


So there's the plan. I'll report back with results.


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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: b plus]
    #18248368 - 05/11/13 01:03 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Well that just about wraps it up for me. I guess the only real reason I'm holding back is because I've purchased over 130 quart jars in the last half a year. If I was to make the transition to this method, would there be any myco related use for those jars anymore?





Hey Bro. I think its living in a box to be stuck with one primary tek. Try them all. Its good to have jars and mini rounds. A spin off of this tek might be good for Pans or cordyceps.  Some teks will do better with some species, so keep your trick bag full. :thumbup:


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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18248387 - 05/11/13 01:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Exactly right malicom. I just realized I'll still need all of these quart jars for edible's and other active woodlovers anyways :facepalm:.

After my next few projects draw to an end I'll pick up the ziploc containers and give this method a try. I simply cannot ignore what I've seen on this thread..

Thanks so much for taking the time end effort to share you ideas and findings with everyone Violet.


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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: b plus]
    #18248560 - 05/11/13 01:46 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you also! I'm glad!

I also don't stick to just this technique. I have other novel ones, and visit up on the older ones too for refreshment. Not to refresh the old teks, but make me feel refreshed about the newer ones! Lol!

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I just realized I'll still need all of these quart jars for edible's and other active woodlovers anyways :facepalm:.



Indeed, unless you replace your glass quarts with plastic quarts and do fewer but faster sterilizing runs for them too! I sure do…
Grass seed with plastic combined is a powerhouse inoc. that goes far with little expense.


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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: Violet]
    #18248565 - 05/11/13 01:47 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Makes me really want to buy some grass seed lol

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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: Hobart Cutter]
    #18249042 - 05/11/13 03:33 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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I think I'll go my own way on the casing prep. I have potting soil that is 90% peat (PH 6), verm and gypsum, but that whole business of making mud of it is a bridge too far for my tastes. I'll just mix it up and pasteurize it like normal. (Or maybe even sterilize it. Haven't decided.)




I had the same concerns it just seemed way too excessive but I am always willing to give a new thing at least an attempt.  I made some casing as per violets microwave tek.  I used seed starter(mostly peat with some perlite)/verm 50/50.  Made it into watery mud.  Nuked it for 8 mins then sat it in front of my hood til the next day.  Then nuked it for another 8 min the next day.  Then waited til it cooled in the microwave.  Once it was cool, I cased some P mexicana species with the casing.  It was actually on the dry side and I had to give it a good spraying to get it to field after I cased.  The casing are now in the FC looking great.  Gray wispy mexicana myc 80% covering the tray with spots of darker white myc in spots. (You can see the results in my journal Chicon Nindo Mex thread)

In the next week or so I will be following this tek from beginning to end.  RGS plastic inoc'd with Bogus + and blue meanie ms agar wedges.  The process until I get pins will be posted in my journal.  Once I get pins I'll post the result here.


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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: PrinceShroom]
    #18249126 - 05/11/13 03:49 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

oh i'm not blaming the seed, i was thinking if i didn't do it again its because of prep and such.. I did a test WBS, Vs. Rye Vs. this method and as of now I just think I prefer using rye berries.. but i do like the p5 containers so i may keep that in my arsenal.. i'm putting to gether a grow house but my ultrasonic i got from the thrift store isn't fogging properly

i think the method i prefer so far is rye > 6.5qt shoe boxes

but we'll see when i fruit these i'll report back :smile:

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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: bassclef]
    #18249992 - 05/11/13 07:47 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Ok so, Hobart Cutter.
Why are you using a container like that? Done right it could work but would not be fun by comparison and likely wouldn't work quite the same. Modification is probably necessary too.
Those snap-top containers… Are they recycling code 5 plastic? They must be in order to survive a cooker. Many little tubs like that are not. Can't fit many in a cooker anyway...
Also in order to survive a cooker containers cannot be air-tight. The lids have to be left sitting loose on those and since they're not screw-top it's a real risk pulling them out of a cooker and into a glovebox. To keep them closed for sterilization you'd have to add SFD or poly. To inoc with spores or LC as you say you'd have to add an inoc port or take your chances squirting under a lifted lid.

Best of luck to you. It'll certainly grow mushrooms at least, but that was certain well before I started posting.


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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: Violet]
    #18251305 - 05/12/13 12:32 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

How do Rye Berries compare to RGS with this method? I have a few pounds of RB I could give this a try with.


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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: b plus]
    #18251329 - 05/12/13 12:36 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Presuming we're referring to straight fruiting from containers:

Before I got into using grass seed, I started out trying these things with rye grain. Results were very pleasing, it's why I kept going.

It would work almost or just as nicely with rye, millet/milo, wheat, rice, maybe even things like whole oats if done well!


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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: Violet]
    #18251526 - 05/12/13 01:53 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Violet said:
Those snap-top containers… Are they recycling code 5 plastic? They must be in order to survive a cooker. Many little tubs like that are not. Can't fit many in a cooker anyway...




Yes they are polypropylene. (PP is the only plastic in category 5.)
No screw on lids available around here. And I'm only doing two anyway. Maybe more later.

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Also in order to survive a cooker containers cannot be air-tight. The lids have to be left sitting loose on those and since they're not screw-top it's a real risk pulling them out of a cooker and into a glovebox.




They can be pressed fairly well without being actually shut so I don't think that will be an issue. I'll just leave them in the PC over night to let the temperature equalize. Then when I open the PC I can just press them shut before I begin handling them.
Then I'll just lift them out into the plastic bag I'll be inoculating in. Lift a corner of the lid and squirty squirt.

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Best of luck to you. It'll certainly grow mushrooms at least, but that was certain well before I started posting.



Thank you!

PrinceShroom >>
Hm well, I might do a trial run then to see how it works out.


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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: Hobart Cutter]
    #18257308 - 05/13/13 11:43 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

There are a few peeps without eyes to see, that pretend that my results aren't as good or better than otherwise, that this is all a lie, that I can't know what I'm talking about, and that there's no way bottom-watered straight-grain ties or beats grain with bulk sub.

Well, they're wrong and it's clear.
The precedent and reasons why have been elaborated here already.
BUT! Let's not leave anyone thinking I don't honestly compare it to be the best of "bulk" substrate results!

Rather I've continued doing many bulks in ongoing comparison to straight grain.
Here is one of such:

A jar of seed like this with the same Albino A+ clone elsewhere in this thread, used to inoc ~1.5 quarts of straight sterile coir in mycobag.


The block has shrunk some for this post-1st-flush photo but you can see it was not a large block, quite a small one rather…

Fruited in my greenhouse.

Mushroom explosion! Couldn't get an angle that truly did it justice.


Piled up over double the height of the quart container used for tare.
485g. Great for just first flush on such a small block, only ~600mL of hydrated seed!
Pretty much 4 wet grams per 5mL wet seed sub, just about the best I've seen it get so far.

This was done with the intent to exemplify 1/6 of a mediumish mono of ~10 actual quarts sub and 6 such 'myco-quarts' grain.
If considered as such, then that mediumish mono yields 10.3oz from 1st flush!


I see some monotub masters like TranscendingLife that do that well, very few honest people that claim better on occasion, and a majority that falls short; so without undermining anyone else's successes I do feel like it's worth noting that my comparisons to bulk are not understating the ability of bulk substrate methods.

Most peeps may feel incredibly happy with results like that, and they're right to.
… yes I do get great results using bulk substrate methods, but I feel results are better from bottom-watered straight grains, and they're easier to quantify not to mention more efficient in every way I've seen so far.
(Plus, I DO NOT LIKE giant mushrooms; they take so much extra time/energy to dry, many doses of matter are in just one mushroom, and can be less potent than equal mass of smaller ones)

As is shown here already, pretty much 6 wet grams per 5mL wet seed sub or better with the same isolates as the bulk grows, and I feel I can do even better which is not something I can't say so confidently with bulk substrates.


But ya know what?
Even if I never got straight-grain yield to surpass bulks, even if they only tied, I would STILL use these methods!!!
Why?
… Isn't it obvious?
Even with a similar yield in fungus matter, I've usually produced more psilos (with the combination of all potency factors in proper form)
And, expended far less time/effort/energy, taking up far less space.


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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: Violet]
    #18257459 - 05/13/13 12:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I may have missed it, but how would seed do as a BRF additive?

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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: Violet] * 1
    #18257835 - 05/13/13 01:54 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Mushroom explosion! Couldn't get an angle that truly did it justice.






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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: b plus]
    #18257856 - 05/13/13 01:58 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Even if I never got straight-grain yield to surpass bulks,




As we know BRF cakes are 1/3 of the ratio of the PF mix. So if you fruit a 1/2 pint ,one third of that volume is grain.

Now have a look a members 1/2 pint cake yield.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9182856/fpart/1/vc/1



When you say you grow your PP5's at about 250 MLs (the containers you show) , why does a "lowly" PF cake seem to surpass your yields with far less grain then your "all grain" grow ?

I'm not so sure your system is any better than cakes , cake-like mini-bulks or bulks themselves. Its good , no doubt about it , but all this crowing that it is the utmost best highest yielding grow system (only second to Anne's way I'm sure

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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: Mycelyalator]
    #18257880 - 05/13/13 02:02 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

This system is far superior to pftek on many accounts. This system can easily flow between cake and bulk which pf cannot. In pf you have to rely solely on the spores in your syringe to be aseptic. In this tek you start with agar.

This is many fold better. If you are doing pf tek to start with, its obvious bulk is not on your mind. This is kinda like the holy grail between bulk an pf, and you can take it any direction.


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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: Mycelyalator]
    #18257894 - 05/13/13 02:04 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Yield wise, I'm not sure the rye seed will prevail when compared to BRF cake. I have a strong feeling BRF cakes may pack more nuts than grain cakes.

Spore syringes is certainly not the only way to nock a brf cake.. You can nock a BRF cake with a LC syringe. If your using RTVport/SFD lids than you can nock a BRF cake with an agar wedge just as easy.

The only benefit to grain is that it's shakable and thus colonizes MUCH faster than a BRF cake.


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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: Violet] * 1
    #18258670 - 05/13/13 04:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Interesting grow thread but your chemistry is a bit simplistic when talking about potency.

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Violet said:Nitrogen is crucial in all of the mushroom's psychoactive alkaloids. Lots of potency simply cannot occur without lots of nitrogen, simple math.
Psilocybin is 4-PO-DMT. Lots of potency simply cannot occur without lots of phosphorous present in the substrate. I was even told that a scientific study was released showing that phosphorous content is the limiting factor of potency from a substrate.



Organic chemistry is a bit different from most chemistry in that you are looking more at processes and structure than individual elements.

Nitrogen is extremely important to fungus but not because Psilocybin contains 2 Nitrogens but because mycelium is made out of Chitin which contains many more Nitrogen molecules.  If your fungus is growing, it certainly has enough nitrogen for Psilocybin production.
Phosphorous is also not a limiting factor as it exists in many grains; certainly in enough supply to give the single phosphate required for Psilocybin (but not psilocin).

It's all about the enzymes.
These are proteins that clip, glue and otherwise rearrange one organic molecule into another.  In comparison to the molecules they work on these proteins are giant slow trudging machines that sometimes break down.  If anything is slowing the production of psilocybin it's the speed and efficiency of these giant machines to attach pieces onto or tear off from the original molecule. 

Does this mean you can't increase potency through additives?  No, just that it's much harder and not as straight forward as people hope.  Enzymes can be pretty picky working only in certain environments or being extremely slow without certain catalysts so it could be possible to add something to the substrate to make these enzymes go faster, but exactly what that is I have no clue.  IMO the limiting factor is the efficiency of these enzymes and not a lack of precursor.

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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: StygianKnight]
    #18259164 - 05/13/13 05:50 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I was just about to ask...

What is the reasoning/evidence behind "much higher potency" with this method?

Have you repeated controlled trials of fruiting iso's on grain/dung and then sent samples off to a lab for analysis of the psilocybin concentration in each?

Or

Anecdotal cases of a few individuals experiences?


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Re: Don't waste grain, there's a better way! • Seed & Plastic — A power tek & million reasons +Potency [Re: b plus]
    #18259526 - 05/13/13 06:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Hey StygianNight,
Yes you're pretty spot-on with all that. I was speaking in very broad terms, the simple atomic presence and the obvious lessthan<greaterthan factor, one of many.
I can understand that and much of it seemed sortof intuitive to me but I definitely cannot claim to be a biologist in regards to describing in those terms these dynamics. I just do the thing, and know the low-resolution but true understandings for them.

All of it is for naught without finding a culture that does the work.


Hey B Plus,
As for the potency... well, they're more potent. Nobody would deny that the difference is clear between common Cubensis and our small exotics for the same reason.
I noted you polarized my "options" to such tedium or just a "few anecdotal individual experiences"
If you're gonna set our conversational axioms that way, I'm not gonna play.


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