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How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet
    #18130553 - 04/18/13 04:25 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

As I've ramped up my efforts I've required more and more jars, verm, BRF, etc. and along with this I've also become more and more concerned about consistently ordering supplies that I can't acquire locally. Personally I order most things through Amazon retailers because it's usually the best price, both for product and shipping, do you think it really matters if I'm ordering from multiple retailers? I really don't like the idea of having an Amazon order history that's mostly substrates and other fungi related items, especially when I look up a bag of perlite and Amazon suggests ordering it with a dozen half pint jars and some BRF. I don't order anything to where I reside but I'm still getting kind of paranoid...


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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: futuredracula]
    #18130580 - 04/18/13 04:31 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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As I've ramped up my efforts I've required more and more jars, verm, BRF, etc. and along with this I've also become more and more concerned about consistently ordering supplies that I can't acquire locally. Personally I order most things through Amazon retailers because it's usually the best price, both for product and shipping, do you think it really matters if I'm ordering from multiple retailers? I really don't like the idea of having an Amazon order history that's mostly substrates and other fungi related items, especially when I look up a bag of perlite and Amazon suggests ordering it with a dozen half pint jars and some BRF. I don't order anything to where I reside but I'm still getting kind of paranoid...





this is more tor the security section of the forum.

But funnily enough if you are looking at something like jars, and then look at the section that says other people also bought this..... alot of times it comes up with other stuf fyou would use for cultivation.


I really dont think ordering jars along with brf is going to be raising big flags. Not to mention that its not just active you can grow on cakes, and whos to say your growing mushrooms at all. You could be canning with the jars, and using the flour for something else.

But as for brown rice flour. Buy brown rice, grind it into flour. a blender works good enough for making flour, sieve the flour and put the pieces left back in for the next batch.

but really i dont think you have to worry about buying stuff from the one site. Thnk how much buisness amazon do.

dont tell anyone, dont grow unless its your own place, dont sell.

If your really that bothered, skip to grains. Recycle sauce jars. Now all you need to buy onlyine if you cant get it is maybe bulk substrate and verm and maybe gypsum. All gardening products.


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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: veda_sticks]
    #18130669 - 04/18/13 04:52 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I personally feel it is safe UNLESS you're being investigated or are red flagged for other reason. Then they can probably use your order history along with other things for a search warrant. Online order history alone probably isn't enough tho.

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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: Kinky]
    #18130728 - 04/18/13 05:05 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Nothing wrong with buying food, tubs and garden supplies online. Even spores are totally legal.. thats why people sell them.


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    #18130755 - 04/18/13 05:11 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #18130810 - 04/18/13 05:25 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I think the education level if the general public or amazon retailer about mushroom cultivation and its required supplies is next to zero. People have no idea.


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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: fbi365]
    #18130833 - 04/18/13 05:30 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

What Malicom said^ hey edibles are fun, nutritious, delicious , and will broaden your scope of mycology


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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: fbi365]
    #18130839 - 04/18/13 05:31 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I was forced to have my syrringes sent to a friends house due to "red flags".
But no. I wouldn't worry about it at all.

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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: iOmniphobia]
    #18132521 - 04/18/13 10:35 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

None of the 'materials' or supplies we buy (generally) are illegal on their own (prior to growing out spores on agar, LC, syringe, etc) and even when combined 98% of the cultivation materials and components are legal in the same ratios for growing legal edibles and countless other organic entities.

I never worry about it. Anyone who can see my Amazon purchase history can eat it!:evil:


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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: buh.ran.done]
    #18132567 - 04/18/13 10:45 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I think you're fine.  The leo have better things to do than scrutinize one grower anyway

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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: fbi365]
    #18132826 - 04/18/13 11:37 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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I think the education level if the general public or amazon retailer about mushroom cultivation and its required supplies is next to zero. People have no idea.



:whathesaid:
Too true.
Hardly anyone realizes how fairly simple it is, and when people ask me, they're always like "wow man that's crazy I couldn't even begin to understand how you'd be able to cultivate your own!" While I just kinda chuckle to myself about how ridiculously ignorant they are.. :lmafo:


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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: iOmniphobia]
    #18132944 - 04/19/13 12:00 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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I was forced to have my syrringes sent to a friends house due to "red flags".
But no. I wouldn't worry about it at all.




This is the one thing that worries me, acquiring a syringe for when I get ready to harvest my own spores. I wouldn't know where to buy them in town, but I bet I'll get some funny looks.


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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: TheLizardKing]
    #18132982 - 04/19/13 12:09 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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I was forced to have my syrringes sent to a friends house due to "red flags".
But no. I wouldn't worry about it at all.




This is the one thing that worries me, acquiring a syringe for when I get ready to harvest my own spores. I wouldn't know where to buy them in town, but I bet I'll get some funny looks.



Go to a farm shop.. or ebay.. or ask a hobo..


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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet (moved) [Re: futuredracula]
    #18134004 - 04/19/13 06:22 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.

Reason:
There will be a record of any transaction you make with a credit card regardless of the retailer, not just amazon.

This belongs in safety & security

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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet (moved) [Re: FooMan]
    #18134210 - 04/19/13 07:50 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

If you have to buy spores online, use a money order and make sure it is from a dealer that cares about your privacy.

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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet (moved) [Re: prewt]
    #18134362 - 04/19/13 08:36 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think mushrooms are a big concern. Alot of cases get thrown out and the only arrest I have been able to find are always in conjunction with other harder drugs.

If you were buying supplies to produce meth Yea be careful. And I think a large portion of why shrooms stay under the radar is because of the maturity that most people that consume shrooms display ie not driving, selling, becoming violent or crazy, and not drawing attention to them selves.

Just look how fast Salvia, 'bath salts', and mimosa hostilis (dmt) gets the hammer.

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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet (moved) [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18134615 - 04/19/13 09:50 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't think mushrooms are a big concern. Alot of cases get thrown out and the only arrest I have been able to find are always in conjunction with other harder drugs.

If you were buying supplies to produce meth Yea be careful. And I think a large portion of why shrooms stay under the radar is because of the maturity that most people that consume shrooms display ie not driving, selling, becoming violent or crazy, and not drawing attention to them selves.

Just look how fast Salvia, 'bath salts', and mimosa hostilis (dmt) gets the hammer.




Cultivation cases thrown out?


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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet (moved) [Re: DeadPhan]
    #18135120 - 04/19/13 12:02 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't think mushrooms are a big concern. Alot of cases get thrown out and the only arrest I have been able to find are always in conjunction with other harder drugs.

If you were buying supplies to produce meth Yea be careful. And I think a large portion of why shrooms stay under the radar is because of the maturity that most people that consume shrooms display ie not driving, selling, becoming violent or crazy, and not drawing attention to them selves.

Just look how fast Salvia, 'bath salts', and mimosa hostilis (dmt) gets the hammer.




Cultivation cases thrown out?




Testing for psilocybin takes a long time, mistakes can be made and lab data can be challenged. Most states will not waste the time or money trying someone cultivating SMALL amounts. Yes I've seen cases thrown out for small amounts in conjuction with no other offenses to be tried. But when word gets out that you have 50+ trays going the raids come in and the state will pursue to collect on whatever money you got from selling.

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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: Capn Blue Beard]
    #18135954 - 04/19/13 03:19 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Nothing wrong with buying food, tubs and garden supplies online. Even spores are totally legal.. thats why people sell them.




No shit, we're all well aware of that. It's also totally legal to have dreads, wear a Bob Marley tie-dye t-shirt, rock hemp jewelry and cruise around in a VW Bus covered in peace frog bumper stickers, but it definitely increases LEO interest in you for sure. I'm old enough to remember ordering now illegal items from places like JLF in the pre-Operation Web Tryp days, everyone back then was also assuming no authorities gave much of a shit. Between Silk Road drawing more attention to internet illegalities and grey areas, CISPA, the IRS privacy breaches, etc. I'm definitely taking a lot more care than I did back in the day and I'm curious how paranoid and cautious others are being and if they're stepping up their care and safety.

Since the general consensus seems to be that I'm being too paranoid here's a link to an article about a Kansas couple who had their house raided just for ordering hydroponic equipment over the internet. Full Story


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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: Melkor]
    #18141333 - 04/20/13 06:13 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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I think you're fine.  The leo have better things to do than scrutinize one grower anyway



I really wouldn't assume that. LEO has been known to stake out hydro shops and follow ppl to find their grows.

Don't assume that they'll throw out a case bc you're a small timer grower or it'll cost them too much money to prove the mushies are illegal. A good friend of mine got hit hard for growing a couple PF jars...the cops were let into the house for other reasons, saw tubing in a dark closet next to the front door, and got a warrant bc they thought it was a meth lab. The tubing was just typical house clutter. It took 4yrs before he was convicted.

Even my ex wife got possession and several paraphernalia charges for tin foil with a tiny bit of H on it that a coworker unknowingly left in our car. consoling, group, community service totaling 325 hours and $5,000 in payments for everything. The paraphernalia chargers were for a scale and baggies that were actually for legit reasons.  She hadn't even had a speeding ticket in her life, tested clean for drugs, had praise from community leaders, and was a college honors student....all all that did was keep her out of jail.

Point being...if you're breaking the law, be smart and do anything and everything to be as safe as possible, no matter how small a fish you are.

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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: Kinky]
    #18142691 - 04/21/13 12:13 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Some random stories from really bored PDs don't mean jack shit.  They aren't going to know what you're ordering unless they're investigating you and have the probable cause to get warrants and subpoenas for your records.

Ordering from the internet is pretty stupid, but only because you're wasting money on shipping for stuff that is locally available at any MegaMart or any other number of places.

If your parents don't allow you to shop at MegaMart by yourself yet then you're REALLY stupid to be doing anything illegal.


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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet [Re: fastfred]
    #18142895 - 04/21/13 01:23 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Amazon prime is awesome.  No shipping fees for just about anything. :shrug:


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Re: How Safe Do You Think It Is To Order Supplies Over The Internet (moved) [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18144830 - 04/21/13 01:52 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

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Testing for psilocybin takes a long time, mistakes can be made and lab data can be challenged. Most states will not waste the time or money trying someone cultivating SMALL amounts. Yes I've seen cases thrown out for small amounts in conjuction with no other offenses to be tried. But when word gets out that you have 50+ trays going the raids come in and the state will pursue to collect on whatever money you got from selling.






I've only heard of cases "thrown out" when the material being tested contained little or no traces of psilocybin, either via degradation or because the mycelium hadn't developed enough to produce significant psilocybin, etc....


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