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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: afass]
    #18950073 - 10/08/13 03:14 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Na I don't use distilled water or boil the water first. Right out of the tap is fine! Might have to clean out ultrasonic humidifiers more often, but it's better than buying bottled/distilled water at 1000-3000 times the price of tap water.
I've mentioned before that having a simple drinking water filter could only help but probably makes little to no difference.


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: Violet]
    #20996287 - 12/18/14 08:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Love that set up all can be found at Lowes. Was just there. Looking at those same shelves and humidifiers.. Do you think I can set my bulk substrate colinized bricks directly on the shelves. And do you put iodine or peroxide in the humidifier water?  Or just straight Poland spring water?

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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: Bulkman]
    #20996338 - 12/18/14 08:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

wish you were here (haha) but are you still running this set up?


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: Bulkman]
    #20996708 - 12/18/14 10:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No, I don't use this setup anymore.  These days I have gone totally invitro.

I am considering building pretty much this same thing again, for growing Shiitake, but adding a bit of manual airflow.

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Love that set up all can be found at Lowes. Was just there. Looking at those same shelves and humidifiers.. Do you think I can set my bulk substrate colinized bricks directly on the shelves. And do you put iodine or peroxide in the humidifier water?  Or just straight Poland spring water?



If you're doing something like trays or bags, then sure.  I wouldn't suggest putting subs naked, on all sides, into any chamber really.

One could put some peroxide in the ultrasonic's water if they want.  I didn't, I just cleaned them every time or every other time I filled them, depending on how long they lasted.  Used tap water.
I did notice that the tap water would cause a small white haze of deposit to form on some things over a long period of time, but this was not concerning to me at all.  It's from tap water, after all.


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: Violet]
    #20996952 - 12/18/14 11:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Any thoughts about a warm mist? Im thinking that at the bottom of my mini gh, paired with a strainer of perlite at the top, wet obviously. Im thinking warm air will rise from the mister, and cool air will fall from the strainer. As well as my vinyl door being open about 8 to 10 inches at the bottom


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: Phycus]
    #20996994 - 12/18/14 11:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think warm mists have a place in any fruiting chamber.  I haven't seen anything that makes me believe otherwise, at least.
They're okay for keeping cooler rooms at a better-managed temperature and helping slightly lower ambient humidity.


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: Violet]
    #20997003 - 12/18/14 11:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't think warm mists have a place in any fruiting chamber.




:whatshesaid:

You're just going to end up with a shitload of condensation on everything.


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #20997136 - 12/19/14 12:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Even if i stagger the time say 10 mins every 90 mins or so? Not trying to jack your awesome thread here violet, but i did have some questions regaurding raising the co2 level artificially in a mini gh. Even though the myc will off gas co2, if i were to introduce a large quantity of it and then exchanging it rapidly, would this initiate faster pinning?

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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: Phycus]
    #20997157 - 12/19/14 12:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Naw, man, don't overcomplicate things.  Substrates will produce more CO2 than you want to deal with.  Mycelium need fresh air.
Fruiting chambers should be simple.  Most things about mycology should be.


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: Violet]
    #20997197 - 12/19/14 12:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh man i completely agree to keeping it simple, just asking about some ideas before i put them into motion.
Do you have any experience with straw logs? I made a thread with some questions, of which you have answered two haha. Last question- if my straw log is in a mini gh with ideal temps, should i keep the plastic tubing on, or cut it off and let it set on the mesh wire shelf? Sorry if this is unrelated. Wouldnt blame you for flaming me haha


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: Phycus]
    #20997222 - 12/19/14 12:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

For straw logs,  I believe it ideal to give them holes to grow out of.  Most Oyster grows I have personally seen were done this way.
It partially depends on humidity.  If you have the humidity consistently near saturation, and air exchange is controlled but ample enough, you can be significantly more liberal with the substrate's exposure.


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: Violet]
    #20997235 - 12/19/14 12:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Im just worried about under side pinning on plastic. Ill do anything to avoid a contam or a situation where i couldve avoided it. I believe itll just be a hit or miss thing, being that a log is supposed to fruit in 360°  of its surface area, with the tubing on or off. Thank you for the help. Also, how long do you dunk your logs, if at all?


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: Phycus]
    #20998564 - 12/19/14 11:36 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

mmanual air flow? such as opening and fanning with a fan or something? and ive looked up invintro and ehh just not for me but this set up I I would be using this as the frame of mine and build on it mind if I shoot you some PM'S with questions later?


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: Wasp]
    #21000483 - 12/19/14 08:10 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

I wonder what invitro you looked up.  There are many different things that qualify under that term.

Guess I meant to say "active" airflow, as opposed to passive, the terms I use in this tek itself.  Not manual, because it would kindof apply to what I mean, but more applies to what you likely meant which I will most certainly not really be doing.  I do mean something to actively push air in and/or draw air out.


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: Violet]
    #21033551 - 12/27/14 10:08 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

What's the best way to sterilize filter bags?  Or will pasteurizing the bulk sub be good enough before I add my spawn?

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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: Violet]
    #22790174 - 01/17/16 12:18 PM (9 years, 1 day ago)

Bump! Cuz this is an awesome very informative thread and I see you are still around violet.

I am designing a very similar GH only I am going to build it into the crawl space in my attic for discretion sake.

My question is could I use tyvek house wrap to make the "walls" vs. the clear plastic? My thinking is that this will increase the "passive" FAE in my greenhouse without RH loss. Good idea or no?

Thanks for your awesome thread it cleared up a lot of misconceptions I had in my GH design


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: spinalmushroom]
    #22790182 - 01/17/16 12:21 PM (9 years, 1 day ago)

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My question is could I use tyvek house wrap to make the "walls" vs. the clear plastic? My thinking is that this will increase the "passive" FAE in my greenhouse without RH loss. Good idea or no?



You're still gonna have to leave the GH open or cut slits/holes in the tyvek for proper FAE.

We use tyvek as filters because it blocks a lot of air.

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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: spinalmushroom]
    #22790228 - 01/17/16 12:32 PM (9 years, 1 day ago)

I looked up the "perms", or moisture permeability, of that material and it is poor. Even straight plywood would be better, from what I saw.  It also looks to be MUCH more expensive. I'll hold that plastic is your best bet.  If you have the budget to get 1 mil or 1.5mil plastic though you'll have great moisture retention than painter's drop cloth which just sufficiently serves to create a maintainable climate within. Moisture loss should be a bigger concern for your home than fresh air for your greenhouse, which should be tuned and controlled manually anyway.


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: PussyFart]
    #22790231 - 01/17/16 12:33 PM (9 years, 1 day ago)

Yeah that makes sense... We also use tyvek filter discs in our lids for FAE that's why I thought of it but a guess they need a lot less FAE at that stage than in fruiting.. Thanks for the quick reply PF


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Re: Greenhouse Tek - FC theory, how-to-use Ultrasonics, and easy indoor greenhouses! [Re: spinalmushroom]
    #22790239 - 01/17/16 12:34 PM (9 years, 1 day ago)

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We also use tyvek filter discs in our lids for FAE



No we don't, we use them for filtered GE.

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