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How have psychedelics changed evolution
    #18081339 - 04/09/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

They obviously change the brian, for the better. But do they change DNA? Did they impact human evolution?
Im really high lol, hope this makes sense

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Re: How have psychedelics changed evolution [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #18081357 - 04/09/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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xbloodwhipx said:
They obviously change the brian, for the better. 




Can, not do.


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Re: How have psychedelics changed evolution [Re: Eminence]
    #18081400 - 04/09/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

It has been proposed that psychs made people and proto humans think differently and may have helped develop tools, brain function, possibly religion as well, so in my guess, yes!

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Re: How have psychedelics changed evolution [Re: joshisstoned]
    #18081459 - 04/09/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I am not very religious myself but I do think that psliocybin mushrooms and religion have a commonality.

It is a somewhat spooky realm for me in the psychedelic mind space because I don't believe in god.

I agree with the above poster saying that they have the potential to change the mind. I don't think it happens automatically.


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Re: How have psychedelics changed evolution [Re: Ando Banko]
    #18081497 - 04/09/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Check out Terence McKenna's Stoned Ape Theory and maybe his book "Food of the Gods"

There are theories that use of psychedelic plant and fungi substances influenced human evolution by invoking consciousness, language use, promoting unity in groups, and perhaps reducing the tendency to form "dominator" cultures.


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Re: How have psychedelics changed evolution [Re: Jenooba]
    #18081929 - 04/09/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

To affect actual evolution by a substance, you are correct... Have to change the DNA In eggs or sperm (germ cells).
Mushrooms don't do that so... Has no effect on evolution from a straight- 'chemical change to DNA' basis...

But... Evolution is tricky...  Could tripping cause some specific genotype to survive and breed where others with a different genotype didnt?  Possible...

And the effect in culture and cultural evolution... Probably a stronger case can be made that psychedelics have had influences in tool making, building, art, religion, astronomy, medicine, etc... 

Who would dream up pyramids? And both in body Africa AND South America? Hmmmmm....

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Re: How have psychedelics changed evolution [Re: Jenooba]
    #18082091 - 04/09/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Jenooba said:
Check out Terence McKenna's Stoned Ape Theory and maybe his book "Food of the Gods"

There are theories that use of psychedelic plant and fungi substances influenced human evolution by invoking consciousness, language use, promoting unity in groups, and perhaps reducing the tendency to form "dominator" cultures.




Cows eat shrooms. Why haven't they evolved?


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Re: How have psychedelics changed evolution [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #18082140 - 04/09/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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They obviously change the brian, for the better.




Not so fast.  Maybe they change the brain for the worse.  I present tie-dye shirts and 2012 predictions.


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Re: How have psychedelics changed evolution [Re: joemolloy]
    #18082157 - 04/09/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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joemolloy said:
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They obviously change the brian, for the better.




Not so fast.  Maybe they change the brain for the worse.  I present tie-dye shirts and 2012 predictions.




Whys everyone trying to change Brian? I thought he was chill.


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Re: How have psychedelics changed evolution [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18082188 - 04/09/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

In all seriousness though. If and "if" psychedelics really sparked a mutation in our genome causing our brains to grow at an alarmingly quick time span we will never know. Unless some mad scientists formulates a process to track the history of the human genome it will all just exciting theories. But that doesn't stop us from citing mythological texts as evidence. But hell, that's here say.


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Re: How have psychedelics changed evolution [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18082478 - 04/09/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Change Brian!  Think he is pooped out...

And how do you know Cows haven't evolved? Maybe they are too cool to brag?


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Re: How have psychedelics changed evolution [Re: HarryL]
    #18082715 - 04/09/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Well, they are yummy.


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