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    #18077974 - 04/08/13 04:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18077986 - 04/08/13 04:50 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

What tek are you gonna use to prepare the bulk substrate?

What kind of bulk do you plan on using?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: PussyFart]
    #18078004 - 04/08/13 04:55 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17246844

I'd suggest coir/verm/gypsum. Its pretty contam resistant. And when you follow franks tek on how to properly pasteurize your sub then you should be golden:thumbup:

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: PussyFart]
    #18078125 - 04/08/13 05:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Notahacker420 said:
What tek are you gonna use to prepare the bulk substrate?

What kind of bulk do you plan on using?




I have no idea.
I thought following those 2 Teks would be all I needed to do.
What is a bulk substrate and which Tek do you suggest I follow?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18078137 - 04/08/13 05:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Bulk substrate is what goes into the monotub, along with the grain spawn.

Coir/verm/manure/straw are all bulk substrate materials.

You mix in the grains with this material and let it colonize, then fruit it.

Sounds like you need to do more research.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: PussyFart]
    #18078155 - 04/08/13 05:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Ohhh I see.
I will follow Damien5050's Coir Tek (the link in your sig).

So I have 3 Teks to follow for my Monotub.
Anything else I need to read up on?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18078165 - 04/08/13 05:29 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Not really, just follow the teks, and do not add anything the teks do not call for.

Do not wrap the tub in a garbage bag to colonize, that is a useless step.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: PussyFart]
    #18078174 - 04/08/13 05:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Doc34's WBS tek says to "incubate" at 80 (after inoculation).
What does incubate mean? Can it just sit on a shelf like PF TEK BRF jars?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18078207 - 04/08/13 05:39 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Doc34's WBS tek says to "incubate" at 80 (after inoculation).
What does incubate mean? Can it just sit on a shelf like PF TEK BRF jars?




Yes sitting on a shelf is fine.


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18078293 - 04/08/13 06:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Doc34's WBS tek says to "incubate" at 80 (after inoculation).
What does incubate mean? Can it just sit on a shelf like PF TEK BRF jars?



If you've ever seen any movie where scientists are in a lab, growing bacteria on little dishes (petri dishes) that are contained in a mini-fridge-looking thing, then you know what an incubator is. Incubating is essentially providing the proper climate to allow your mycelium to grow productively. Cheap incubators can be made that provide a good temperature for the mycelium to grow. Not a necessary thing to have though, just allows you to speed up colonization time.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18078336 - 04/08/13 06:07 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Doc34's WBS tek says to "incubate" at 80 (after inoculation).
What does incubate mean? Can it just sit on a shelf like PF TEK BRF jars?




Unless you live in a very cold area, just leave your grain jars at room temp on a shelf.  If you put em in an incubator, they'll probably get too hot seeing as how it's spring now and starting to get warm.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: Fesperse]
    #18078351 - 04/08/13 06:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18082360 - 04/09/13 03:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you so much ^

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18082878 - 04/09/13 04:39 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

In the Doc34's WBS Tek; it says I can use pint or quart jars.
Which one is best to use?

IN the Damien5050's coir Tek, it says to use 5 quarts of spawn.
So should just inoculate 5 quart jars to make it easy?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18082908 - 04/09/13 04:45 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yeah qt jars hold more and are standard for grain spawn use. You can also use qt jars for bulk sub pasteurization.

I have a TON of qt just for this very reason :thumbup:


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: slapphappypill]
    #18082923 - 04/09/13 04:47 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)


double quarts aren't that bad either:wink:


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: cronicr]
    #18082965 - 04/09/13 04:53 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Very nice! I however wouldn't have much use for those as I would put 1 qt spawn to 1 bag. Hell I could get away with 1/2 pint jars if I wanted, but I fit 6 - 6-7LBS spawn bags in my 75x, and Would rather only have to do 2 loads of bags for 14 qt jars instead of 6+ loads for who knows how many 1/2 pints I could fit in a freakin 75x... I dunno I'm  :jah:


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: slapphappypill]
    #18083026 - 04/09/13 05:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

2 many numbers...i must now smoke again, i'll be back in 5


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: cronicr]
    #18083109 - 04/09/13 05:11 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Since I have 2 syringes of different strains, does this mean I should make 2 separate monotubs?

If so, each syringe is 10cc, which will give me 5 QT jars each.

The mono tub design tek I am following states this:
"The tubs I use are 66 quarts. 16.8”L x 24”W x 13.1”H. They give me right around 3.5-4” of substrate depth @ 7-10 quarts of spawn. (I prefer slightly higher spawn ratios due to colonization time & flush results)"

This means I am 2 QTs short of 7.

What do I do?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18083153 - 04/09/13 05:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

use 1.5 cc's instead of 2 and do acouple more jars:shrug:


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: cronicr]
    #18083184 - 04/09/13 05:21 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

or.. put .25 cc to agar, then do 14 jars, then g2g to 140 jars!!! Then you'll still have 8.75 cc of spore solution :hamsterdance:


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: slapphappypill]
    #18083270 - 04/09/13 05:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Wait.. so I just re-read Damien5050's Coir Tek.
It says supplies needed:
1 Brick of Coir
2 Quarts of Verm
5 Quarts of Spawn
A 5 gallon bucket with a lid

So I guess I only need to make 5 QT jars.

The monotub design tek I listed in the OP says it's made for 7-10 QTs.
Is there a tek for a 5QTs of spawn monotub?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18083302 - 04/09/13 05:35 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Wait.. so I just re-read Damien5050's Coir Tek.
It says supplies needed:
1 Brick of Coir
2 Quarts of Verm
5 Quarts of Spawn
A 5 gallon bucket with a lid

So I guess I only need to make 5 QT jars.

The monotub design tek I listed in the OP says it's made for 7-10 QTs.
Is there a tek for a 5QTs of spawn monotub?




5 is the minimum.  i use 7 i dont know the size of your tub but i use that recipe with a 51qt tub

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: twistedty]
    #18083343 - 04/09/13 05:43 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

So the Damien5050 Coir Tek will be fine with 7 QTs of spawn instead of 5?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18083373 - 04/09/13 05:52 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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So the Damien5050 Coir Tek will be fine with 7 QTs of spawn instead of 5?



Yes, you can use anywhere from 2qts to 10qts of spawn with that tek.

The less you use, the longer it will take to colonize.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: PussyFart]
    #18083452 - 04/09/13 06:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

So to get 7 qt jars out 10cc would be to have 6 jars with 1.5cc and the last jar only have 1cc?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18083695 - 04/09/13 07:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Is there a specific Wild Bird Seed to use?
I cant find the exact one recommended in Doc34's tek at Lowes or Walmart.
And all of the bags I find are labeled "wild bird feed" not seed... even the picture he listed in the his tek is labeled so.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18083800 - 04/09/13 07:34 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

just avoid the ones with peanuts or cc if possible(you can use it if you have to)and also any that have alot of broken shit inside


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: cronicr]
    #18083802 - 04/09/13 07:35 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

What is cc?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18083865 - 04/09/13 07:48 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

CC = Cracked Corn

The amount of spore solution per jar does not have to be exact...I only use a few drops per jar/hole.

Remember, spores are potent, they can get great mileage if you treat em right.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: PussyFart]
    #18083999 - 04/09/13 08:18 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Alright thanks guys.
So no peanuts & cracked corn.
Get rid of all the floaters, esp black sunflower seeds.
What will remain? Everything that sinks is good... anything that floats is bad.
I see so many different bags of "wild bird feed" I dont know which one to grab lol.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18084332 - 04/09/13 09:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Cracked corn is ok if there is not a lot of it, and so it black sunflower seeds, but they can be removed.

Home depot has 40lbs of bird seed for $14.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: PussyFart]
    #18089888 - 04/10/13 10:43 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)


Edited by keepsake (04/10/13 10:44 PM)

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18089990 - 04/10/13 11:14 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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How many of these will I need?

http://www.sewforless.com/item/Poly_Down_Fiberfill_12oz/13848?gclid=CNHlv4DnwbYCFWXZQgod6X0AmQ





lol.  one will last u forever


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: TheApprentice]
    #18091203 - 04/11/13 09:48 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

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How many of these will I need?

http://www.sewforless.com/item/Poly_Down_Fiberfill_12oz/13848?gclid=CNHlv4DnwbYCFWXZQgod6X0AmQ





lol.  one will last u forever




I buy my poly in 10lb boxes and it lasts about 3 months :lol:

OP, try to find poly that is not rough textured. The soft feeling (more expensive) poly is way better for stuffing holes proper :thumbup:


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18091236 - 04/11/13 09:58 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I cant find polyfill locally so I have to order it online.
Can you link me to the poly you recommend?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18091245 - 04/11/13 10:02 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: cronicr]
    #18091450 - 04/11/13 11:08 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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just avoid the ones with peanuts or cc if possible(you can use it if you have to)and also any that have alot of broken shit inside






i love cracked corn:bashful:


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: TheApprentice]
    #18092113 - 04/11/13 02:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i love cc on it's own, but not so much in my wbs, when i do my wbs i actually put it through a colonder dry first to remove the cc/sfs and use them separately with some verm:thumbup:


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: cronicr]
    #18092187 - 04/11/13 02:39 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Cronicr

"2 many numbers...i must now smoke again, i'll be back in 5"

Thanks for the laugh. I needed it baaaadddd.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: cronicr]
    #18095421 - 04/12/13 12:29 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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i love cc on it's own









5 day colonization times from g2g with Cracked Corn that people told me "I WOULD BE BETTER OFF EATING" :grin:

and i've mixed cc to wbs 50/50 before.  I haven't had a problem.  but I will say that walmart WBS is garbage.  it has this pink shit in it that smears when pressure cooked.  ugh.

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    #18096320 - 04/12/13 09:13 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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5 day colonization times from g2g with Cracked Corn




Apprentice, you should mention that that is 5 days colonization time for oysters not cubes. Oyster mycelium is much faster and more aggressive than cube myc. And you could get 5 day colonization time for G2G on just about anything with the right amount of inoculant :shrug:


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5 day colonization times from g2g with Cracked Corn




Apprentice, you should mention that that is 5 days colonization time for oysters not cubes. Oyster mycelium is much faster and more aggressive than cube myc. And you could get 5 day colonization time for G2G on just about anything with the right amount of inoculant :shrug:






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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: TheApprentice]
    #18098457 - 04/12/13 05:40 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Why would a quart jar colonize as fast as brf cakes in their tiny 8oz jars?

Is WBS easier to colonize than verm & brown rice?

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Why would a quart jar colonize as fast as brf cakes in their tiny 8oz jars?

Is WBS easier to colonize than verm & brown rice?



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    #18098944 - 04/12/13 07:15 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Sweet!

Ok, I tried finding a WBS bag that didnt have cracked corn and little black sunflower seeds as possible.
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    #18100110 - 04/12/13 10:44 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Wait a minute... what does cracked corn look like? LOL
Are those brown looking kernels considered cracked corn?

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    #18100124 - 04/12/13 10:47 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)



The triangle(not round) pieces are cracked corn.

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You can't shake a cake! You can shake WBS jars.

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    #18100132 - 04/12/13 10:49 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)



Cracked Candy Corn

TRIPLE C's

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So the bag I posted has zero cracked corn?
Awesome.... looks like I found the almost perfect bag.

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So the bag I posted has zero cracked corn?
Awesome.... looks like I found the almost perfect bag.



I don't see any.

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pennington classic has a few. I see like 15 in a 20lb bag

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    #18100337 - 04/12/13 11:29 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

pennington classic has done me fine. the bobo non-name brand seems to do just as well though. a little cracked corn is ok, just makes things sticky and can gunk up if over hydrated. dont bother straining sunflower seeds, they colonize fine and ive recently read they add lignin to the available nutes for your spawn

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Cracked Candy Corn

TRIPLE C's



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did jimmy crack it

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    #18112715 - 04/15/13 12:46 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Just got my quart jars.
I will be starting Doc34's WBS Tek tonight!

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Have fun!! I always keep a bowl and a beer close by for WBS prep :jah:


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    #18114196 - 04/15/13 05:34 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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    #18114219 - 04/15/13 05:38 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

So from what I gathered; these quart jars should be fully colonized within 3 weeks?
Then, I do Damien's coir tek and they should start fruiting within another 3-5 weeks?
From start to finish; a mono tub will have fruits in about 2 months?
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    #18114232 - 04/15/13 05:40 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

no no it will start fruiting sooner then that,more likely a week


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    #18114270 - 04/15/13 05:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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no no it will start fruiting sooner then that,more likely a week




I'd say it depends on genetics, spawn ratio, and how wet or dry the sub was prepared. I had a really slow isolate (was really potent tho) take 6 weeks to complete its spawn run, a week to show pins, and 2 weeks for the first flush to mature. That tub was maybe a little on the wet side as well. I also have a PEU tub, that finished its run today a week from when I spawned it. There is a lot of variables IMO.

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Nice, this is going to be fun!

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    #18115900 - 04/15/13 10:24 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I just washed and rinsed the WBS.
Picked out all the black sunflower seeds and anything else that floated.
Got it soaking in a pot.
I will be inoculating 12 quart jars tomorrow; 6 GTs and 6 Mazapecs.

In 2 months I will have 2 full mono tubs fruiting a bunch of mushrooms :eek:
That sounds fucking craaaaazy!!

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2 monotubs = :crazy2:

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I just washed and rinsed the WBS.
Picked out all the black sunflower seeds and anything else that floated.
Got it soaking in a pot.
I will be inoculating 12 quart jars tomorrow; 6 GTs and 6 Mazapecs.

In 2 months I will have 2 full mono tubs fruiting a bunch of mushrooms :eek:
That sounds fucking craaaaazy!!




So THIS is where you've been :awesomenod:

You've been busy! This thread has explained so much. I'm gunna have to try it now!

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    #18116162 - 04/15/13 11:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Hey man im going for my first grow ever and im thinking about using WBS mono tub i was going to go for the PF tek but idk i think i can do this. you mind if i follow your thread a bit because im going to be in the same boat as you soon enough and would like some tips :smile:

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    #18116167 - 04/15/13 11:26 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Hey man im going for my first grow ever and im thinking about using WBS mono tub i was going to go for the PF tek but idk i think i can do this. you mind if i follow your thread a bit because im going to be in the same boat as you soon enough and would like some tips :smile:




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    #18116251 - 04/15/13 11:48 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I am def feeling nervous but i mean i think i got this, is this your second grow? i saw your b+ and golden teacher cakes looked very sexy. i dont even know what strain im going to go with lol. i was thinking GT's, cambodian, or the ecuadorian strain awww im excited too like a kid at xmas.

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    #18121286 - 04/16/13 10:44 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Damn, so I got 12 quart jars ready to PC.
But my PC only fits 7 max.
Can I PC the 7 jars tonight and then the other 5 tomorrow morning?
Will the hydrated WBS go bad sitting inside the jar over night?

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Bulk!
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    #18121335 - 04/16/13 10:54 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Can I PC the 7 jars tonight and then the other 5 tomorrow morning?




:awesomenod:

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Will the hydrated WBS go bad sitting inside the jar over night?




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    #18121362 - 04/16/13 11:00 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Ok thanks Frank.
One last question.
In Doc34's WBS Tek, it says to cover the jar with 2 coffee filters after inoculation.
And then it says to shake after all the jars are inoculated.. but in this picture of him shaking the jar, I see foil over the lids, not coffee filters.

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    #18122969 - 04/17/13 09:52 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

You really only need a good filter on your lid. A coffee filter over the top of a properly made lid is pretty unnecessary.
If you're inoc'ing from LC or grain to grain then you want to shake after inoc.
If you're inoc'ing from spores then you'll want to wait until you see growth to shake.

Here's a few of my grain jars, they stay in a plastic tub with the lid on to keep the air still around them while colonizing. No need for a coffee filter on top :thumbup:



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    #18123274 - 04/17/13 11:00 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I'm inoculating with spore syringes.
And I didnt do a lid tek. I followed Doc34's steps with tyvek and polyfill.

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I'm inoculating with spore syringes.
And I didnt do a lid tek. I followed Doc34's steps with tyvek and polyfill.




That is a lid tek :thumbup:
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    #18123678 - 04/17/13 12:17 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

So do I shake after inoculation like it says?
Or wait a few days to see some mycelium and then shake?

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    #18123682 - 04/17/13 12:18 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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If you're inoc'ing from spores then you'll want to wait until you see growth to shake.




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    #18125529 - 04/17/13 06:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I just inoculated 6 quart jars with Mazapec spores.
I shook each one a little bit after noccin'.
Wish me luck!
I cant wait to see mycelium growth. It's like re-living my first grow all over again.

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    #18125565 - 04/17/13 06:29 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Whats up with the coffee filters? Please don't tell me that's the filter your using. If you have a proper filter on the lid you don't need them.

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    #18125587 - 04/17/13 06:33 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I have a layer of tyvek and polyfill in the center hole of the lid.
I'm just following Doc34's Tek to the T.
If the coffee filters are unnecessary then I can take them off.

Should I?

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    #18125598 - 04/17/13 06:34 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, take them off.

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    #18125625 - 04/17/13 06:39 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Alrighty then.



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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18125631 - 04/17/13 06:40 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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    #18125651 - 04/17/13 06:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I'm following Damien's Coir Tek.
I see it does not say to use gypsum but alot of other Teks do.
What do you guys say?
Is Damien's Tek the best way to go?

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    #18125663 - 04/17/13 06:46 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

damions tek with a cup o gypsum. If you feel you have a clean enough area

That tek is 4 years old... people have improved.

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    #18125665 - 04/17/13 06:47 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm following Damien's Coir Tek.
I see it does not say to use gypsum but alot of other Teks do.
What do you guys say?
Is Damien's Tek the best way to go?



Damion5050's tek will work for coir/verm/gypsum.

It will not work with any other additives.

It works great for coir/verm, but it is not the best way to go.

Proper pasteurization is.

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    #18125733 - 04/17/13 06:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Notahacker420 said:
Damion5050's tek will work for coir/verm/gypsum.

It will not work with any other additives.

It works great for coir/verm, but it is not the best way to go.

Proper pasteurization is.




So I can just stick to just coir & verm?
And do Frank's Pasteurization Tek?

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    #18125748 - 04/17/13 06:59 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

use the gypsum too if you have it. Yes use franks past tek.

It's fancy

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    #18125881 - 04/17/13 07:21 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

So how do I prepare my substrate for Franks Pasteurization Tek with only coir, verm, and gypsum?

His sub prep tek uses horse poo so I cant really follow it.

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    #18125963 - 04/17/13 07:36 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I think Cow Poo can be substituted and work just as well.
Black Kow at Lowes is about $2-$4 for a big bag.


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    #18126009 - 04/17/13 07:44 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Oh yea.... He has a Coir/verm/gypsum tek too.

Sorry I should have clarified

Here ya go!

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17325780#17325780

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Thanks bro! ^

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:popcorn:
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:popcorn:
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He had beautiful cakes, can't wait to see a beautiful mono!
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    #18126567 - 04/17/13 09:19 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks guys.
I cant wait... monotubs look craaaaaazy compared to the puny pf cakes.

I got another 6 jars in the PC right now.
I'm noccin' them up tomorrow morning with GT spores.

I'ma have so many mushies in 2 months I dont know what the hell I'ma do with them LOL :crazy2:

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    #18126692 - 04/17/13 09:40 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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I'ma have so many mushies in 2 months I dont know what the hell I'ma do with them LOL :crazy2:




I bet I know what yer gonna do with em :awecid:

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    #18152948 - 04/22/13 10:10 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

keep...

Any updates on this grow? Just curious...

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    #18153874 - 04/23/13 05:25 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Yup!
Just waiting for colonization.
After 5 days since noccin' I finally see some mycelium growth.
Slowly, but surely!

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keepsake said:

Slowly, but surely!




Hey, I think I know about this method:awesomenod:

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    #18160766 - 04/24/13 12:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

My GT jars are colonizing at a decent pace.
I nocced up my Mazapec jars 1 day before I did the GTs and they have yet to show any signs of myc growth.
Weird.

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Silly MS genetics, nothing to worry about.


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    #18167980 - 04/25/13 06:27 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Golden Teachers.
When can I shake the jars?



It's been 7 days and I dont see the slightest sign of myc growth in my Mazapec jars. :confused:

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    #18168075 - 04/25/13 06:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I'd shake those :thumbup:

Too soon to worry about the ones that haven't germinated yet. Just be happy that you got some good growth going on.

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    #18168129 - 04/25/13 06:52 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Do I shake em like a mad man?

Maybe the free syringe (Mazapecs) I received is just a fake one full of toilet water?
That's a smart little persuasive marketing tactic to get me to buy from their site.






Lol, I'm jk. :cool:

*Doing some bicep curls to get ready to shake these suckers.

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    #18168196 - 04/25/13 07:01 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Your WBS seems to be a LITTLE wet, but don't fret.
Same thing happened to me, just took a little longer to germinate.
You'll be fine. :bearbreakdance::thumbup:

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    #18168199 - 04/25/13 07:01 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

You gotta bang em against something like a bike tire or phonebook. Just shaking them like a rattle ain't really gonna do much. You gotta beat on them like a cheap hooker, just don't break the jar in the process.

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    #18168254 - 04/25/13 07:11 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

The Mazapec jars are a bit more wet than the GT jars.
Maybe that's why.
Oh well, I'm sure it'll be just fine.
I am moving out of state at the beginning of July.
I just hope I can get a trip out of these before I move.
The rest will be left up to my family to care for and enjoy lol.

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    #18168321 - 04/25/13 07:21 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Done.. now I cant see any more mycelium in the jars :frown:

I like seeing the mycelium.

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    #18168331 - 04/25/13 07:23 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Don't worry, in a few days you will see the speed of grains. If the growth is clean, the jars will be done in a week :thumbup:

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    #18169323 - 04/25/13 10:17 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

keep,

I see, rubbing it in to those of us that haven't even
mastered their first grow...< looks around > I guess that's just me :wink:

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jk man...looking good! It is going to be EPIC beyond all expectations!

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    #18173327 - 04/26/13 06:28 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i received a couple maz syringes as freebies from a vendor recently that were duds. just a heads up, talked to a couple other folks who did as well. hate to see someone waste their time/jars/grains with bad spores

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    #18173352 - 04/26/13 06:32 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Fuckers.
I knew it.

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i received a couple maz syringes as freebies from a vendor recently that were duds. just a heads up, talked to a couple other folks who did as well. hate to see someone waste their time/jars/grains with bad spores



Quote:

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Fuckers.
I knew it.





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    #18173970 - 04/26/13 08:43 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Free Spore Ring Earth

I can vouch, There legit. :cool::thumbup:

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    #18173973 - 04/26/13 08:44 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Haha

ohmmmmmmmmmm


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    #18176439 - 04/27/13 10:43 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

not too much their fault, unless you received it recently?

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    #18176544 - 04/27/13 11:23 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I would think a bad syringe is a bad syringe...no matter how old:shrug:
If that is the case...not sure.

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    #18176690 - 04/27/13 12:19 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

The older the syringe the less likely it has viable spores. I have a buddy who used a four year old syringe however and got good growth.

The problem with syringes is that they are made from spore prints. Spore prints are rarely 100% clean, as fruiting is often done in open air, so in turn those contams can be transferred to the syringe. This is why things like incubating and colonizing in the dark are now frowned upon, as they give contams a chance to get ahead. In the case of the pf tek for instance, we are just trying to give the mycelium a window to get ahead.

The only way to guarantee a 100% clean inoculate, is to use a wedge of agar which allows you to see if it's clean due to the 2D growing plane.

Personally I never want to use a syringe again if I can help it. Maybe if that is my only source of genetics, I might use a syringe on agar, but that's pretty much it. Well that's my rant on syringes, I'm done for now :wink:

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    #18176847 - 04/27/13 01:17 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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This is why things like incubating and colonizing in the dark are now frowned upon, as they give contams a chance to get ahead.



Please explain how darkness helps contams get ahead.

This I would love to hear.

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    #18176910 - 04/27/13 01:39 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Notahacker420 said:
Quote:

Pastywhyte said:
This is why things like incubating and colonizing in the dark are now frowned upon, as they give contams a chance to get ahead.



Please explain how darkness helps contams get ahead.

This I would love to hear.

:standingby:




:lmafo:
I'm gonna just go ahead and say it's total BS and call it a day :shrug:
Last I checked you don't want contaminant spores or live bacteria present in your jars anyhow, so...if you need to "outrun" a contam in a jar of grains, you're already fighting a losing battle 100% of the time.


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    #18176915 - 04/27/13 01:40 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Please explain how darkness helps contams get ahead.





I guess I didn't explain my thought process well (I need to stop drinking in the morning :wink:). What I should have said is that darkness in and of itself does not help the contams get ahead, but since colonizing in light is benificial for the mycellium, not having that edge will help the contams get ahead. Thanks for keeping noobs like me honest :thumbup:

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    #18176969 - 04/27/13 02:03 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I keep all my jars in the dark. It is probably 85f in there half the time too.

Heater is set to 80f on the ground.

Contam free in the '13. I know it has to do with my technique too, but hey.

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    #18176973 - 04/27/13 02:05 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Last I checked you don't want contaminant spores or live bacteria present in your jars anyhow, so...if you need to "outrun" a contam in a jar of grains, you're already fighting a losing battle 100% of the time.




As far as I have read, there is always the potential for contams in spawn due to endospores and syringes that are not clean. As far as I know we are just trying to give the mycellium a chance to get ahead because PCing is not a guaranteed complete sterilization.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7645121#7645121

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6581794#6581794

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16147342#16147342

Granted these are pretty old posts, so I will retract my statements.

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    #18176976 - 04/27/13 02:08 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

You could tyndallize with your PC if you're paranoid, but I don't think it would be any better than just an hour or so at 15 psi.
Just :2cents:

Also, syringes can be contaminated, but that's a risk you're going to have to take into consideration when delving into the hobby.
Find me one person on the website who hasn't had a bad jar at some point, even with perfect technique (which is learned). There are still errors until you hit agar.
Even then, nobody's perfect :shrug:

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    #18177073 - 04/27/13 02:47 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

The syringes were about 2 months old.
I had 2 syringes: GT and Maz.
The GTs are growing very good.
It's almost 2 weeks since noccin' and the Maz jars have yet to show any sign at all.

Oh well... no biggie.
It was a free syringe anyway.
The GTs are going good, thats all I care :grin:

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    #18177397 - 04/27/13 04:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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As far as I have read, there is always the potential for contams in spawn due to endospores and syringes that are not clean. As far as I know we are just trying to give the mycellium a chance to get ahead because PCing is not a guaranteed complete sterilization.





Endospores are a real concern but a pretty minor one.
A proper soak germinates most, and the remaining endospores get damaged so badly during a PC cycle it takes far longer for them to recover than it does for even a slow culture to colonize a jar.
I've left jars uninoculated (incubated and not) sitting for a couple months. I did these tests a few times. Never a bacteria contam upon opening :shrug:

Dirty syringes need to be cleaned up on agar. Sometimes you get lucky and it's only got a few contam spores here or there. But if you inoculate with a syringe and get mold spores in the jar, from either the syringe or from poor technique, your jar is toast.

Point is, a lot of people on here have blamed their misfortunes on dirty syringes and endospores, but in reality the issue is actually their own sterile technique and grain prep.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18177577 - 04/27/13 05:04 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Noted. I have noticed that my contam rate has dropped dramatically since I stopped using syringes and given up on incubation (with the exception of a small heater in the winter). Have only had one jar in my last 50 go south and I believe it was due to some sloppy work on my part in my SAB. Regardless I am pretty firm in my belief that a wedge is far less risky way to go compared to a syringe and that was to be my original point.

Anyway I by no means meant to spread bad information, or to derail this thread. My apologies OP.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18178155 - 04/27/13 07:35 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

No worries Pasty.

Can I shake again or what? They really sped up after the first shake.


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18178157 - 04/27/13 07:36 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I should start looking for Coir and Gypsum.
Does Walmart or Lowes carry them or do I order them online?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18178238 - 04/27/13 07:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Pet stores sell cheap coir as reptile bedding.

And yes, feel free to give those another shake.
Some people advocate only one shake during colonization but I like to do at least two. Never had an issue :thumbup:


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18178598 - 04/27/13 09:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Wow,your jars are really flying. 3 weeks after innoc ad mine are only at 15-20%. :lolsy: Fucking ms.


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #18178609 - 04/27/13 09:27 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Haha.

My Maz jars still arent showing any sign of life tho.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18178672 - 04/27/13 09:40 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

One of my jars (made from the same syringe as the other jars that ARE showing growth) is not showing growth either :shrug:

Sometimes its just plain bad luck!


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #18178830 - 04/27/13 10:14 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

They may just be slow...

AND I know slow...:lmafo:

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18181011 - 04/28/13 12:08 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

lol they arent slow bro, they arent germing. not sure if the batch of freebies was old or ever viable. do know i just cleared out 3 dozen jars after a month of nada. the P.E. it came with is almost done colonizing the sub. looking good otherwise!! remember proper pasteurization is key.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: entactogenics]
    #18186609 - 04/29/13 01:38 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Mazapecs


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18188824 - 04/29/13 08:01 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

So I went to Walmart and had no success in finding coir or gypsum.
There are no pet shops in my area so I'm out of luck.

Is there any specific brand of coir and gypsum I need to buy?
I'm going to order them online.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18188866 - 04/29/13 08:11 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Nope, any coir/gypsum is fine.

I'm surprised you couldn't find coir anywhere!


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #18188885 - 04/29/13 08:14 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I'm currently living in the middle of nowhere, a really small small town with barely anything.
I'm moving to Las Vegas in June tho lol.

I hope I get some fruits before then!

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    #18191092 - 04/30/13 08:31 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm currently living in the middle of nowhere, a really small small town with barely anything!




I hear ya on the 'small town' thing. We have a slightly bigger town 24 miles away and an ever bigger town 65 miles away. Where I live, no Walmart...nothing. Kinda sucks but it's actually nice. No snooping law enforcement AND it's quiet!!!

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: BovineScattologist]
    #18191368 - 04/30/13 09:57 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I'm gonna follow.....lookin' good!


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: JCSuperstar]
    #18191976 - 04/30/13 01:04 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)



Are they fully colonized?
Is it okay for them to wait another week since I have to order coir and gypsum online?

I'm following Franks "Simple Coir/Gypsum/Verm Tek" which produces 9-12qts of hydrated substrate.
Will that be enough for a 66qt mono-tub? It doesn't state so in the Tek.
I just want to make sure before I order the supplies. I don't want to be short of anything when it comes time to prepare.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18192484 - 04/30/13 02:54 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, that's exactly the size tub I use.
Really, a brick of coir and a couple quarts of verm is a good size for any average sized mono over 50qts but under 100qts IME :thumbup:
Those look good! Dunk em when you spawn em :smile:

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18192603 - 04/30/13 03:21 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Sweet, thanks man.
I just ordered a brick of coir and 1lb of gypsum.
How should I dunk them? The same way you do with pf cakes?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18209689 - 05/03/13 06:16 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I just tossed the Mazapec jars.
It's been almost 3 weeks and I did not see the slightest sign of mycelium life.
The grains were pretty soggy and nasty looking.
Oh well, good thing it was the free syringe and not one I paid for.. I'd be tearin my house down if it was LOL.

The GT jars are beautifully white as snow.
Just waiting for my coir/gypsum to arrive so I can start the next process!

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18209695 - 05/03/13 06:17 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Suck Monkey man!!!

Fuckin' free MS syringe!

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18215761 - 05/04/13 10:43 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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I just tossed the Mazapec jars.
It's been almost 3 weeks and I did not see the slightest sign of mycelium life.
The grains were pretty soggy and nasty looking.
Oh well, good thing it was the free syringe and not one I paid for.. I'd be tearin my house down if it was LOL.

The GT jars are beautifully white as snow.
Just waiting for my coir/gypsum to arrive so I can start the next process!



the free MS i got didnt colonate anything and i think i did it right, because my other MS i lsot alot but im thinking im going to just try and inoculate the ms I actually bought super jelly man congrats.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: LaughingSoDreamy]
    #18221032 - 05/06/13 04:13 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Hey bro, you still waiting for supplies to arrive?
I'm watching this grow closely
I can't wait to see your progress!

My wife, out of the blue looked at me yesterday
and said, " You should do this monotub thing you
told me about...ya...do that! ". :jawdrop: She's a keeper!

So, monotub it is...I'm going to gather supplies too!

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: BovineScattologist]
    #18221344 - 05/06/13 07:42 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Monotubs are the bee's knees. No misting or fanning fir first flush, what what!

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    #18221493 - 05/06/13 08:51 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Monotubs are the bee's knees. No misting or fanning fir first flush, what what!




Nice to know! Looking forward to it!

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: BovineScattologist]
    #18221716 - 05/06/13 10:28 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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My wife, out of the blue looked at me yesterday
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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: CrazyJtheKing]
    #18221776 - 05/06/13 10:43 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah. The coir and gypsum should arrive today.
My jars have been fully colonized for almost a week now.
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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18221781 - 05/06/13 10:45 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Try to spawn them right when they hit 100% next time :wink:


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    #18221853 - 05/06/13 11:02 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Try to spawn them right when they hit 100% next time :wink:




Thanks.
I got lazy and didn't start looking for coir and gypsum until it the jars were 100%.
I just ordered 2 more syringes yesterday tho.
My older brother will be starting 2 monos haha.

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    #18221882 - 05/06/13 11:11 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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I just ordered 2 more syringes yesterday tho.




What kind/strain of cube syringe?

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    #18221886 - 05/06/13 11:12 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Oh I just stuck with GTs again lol.
They worked well for my grow and the QT jars colonized fast so why not?
Plus it's for my older bro's grow so I wanted to be sure he'll have success.
I'll play with different strains in my new home in Nevada.

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    #18221898 - 05/06/13 11:16 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Cool! I have a B+, (2) Cambodian and (2) Amazon to work with...

Plus some prints...so I'm good for a while. I need to print one of my GT mushies so I at least have that.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: BovineScattologist]
    #18222915 - 05/06/13 03:12 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Damn it!
I just noticed I need more qt jars for the pasteurization process.
Gotta order them today.. it'll take 3-4 days before I receive those.
Should I be worried about my jars consolidating for so long?

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    #18227705 - 05/07/13 02:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Well, did your supplies arrive as you had thought
AND did step 2 happen?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: BovineScattologist]
    #18227783 - 05/07/13 03:08 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Gypsum came yesterday.
Coir hasnt come yet.
Even if it does come today.. I still have to wait for more QT jars to arrive (ordered yesterday).
Step 2 requires more QT jars and I didnt notice that until yesterday lol.

This is what happens when you do shit last minute lol.


AAAAAND I just got done booking my ticket to move to Nevada today.
I am now officially moving on the 26th of this month, which is less than 3 weeks.
I probably wont even be around to see any mushrooms grow.
I will be leaving the tub up to my older brother to care for.

He better take sweet care of it.

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    #18227811 - 05/07/13 03:14 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Moving so soon AND leaving mushie grow behind

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: BovineScattologist]
    #18228389 - 05/07/13 05:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

my jars aint colonizing/contaminating or doing anything their doing what your free spore syringe did and ironically mine was free too hmmm? maybe i should try the one i actually bought

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: LaughingSoDreamy]
    #18271157 - 05/15/13 09:29 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

So my jars have been fully colonized for 12 days now.
I notice there is some water in the jars probably due to different temperature levels.
I hope they are ok. I dont see any signs of contam or early pinning (if that even happens).
I'm finally starting to prepare the substrate tonight.
I am currently letting the brick of coir soak in water to fully expand before I pasteurize.

:cool:

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    #18271241 - 05/15/13 09:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

:justcantwait:

Dude, it shall be EPIC!!

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    #18271609 - 05/15/13 11:10 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

So I followed Frank's coir/verm substrate prep tek.
I used 1 brick of coir, 2 qts of verm, and 5 qts of water. This only gave me 10 qts of substrate, which is 10 jars.
In his pictures; he ended up with 12 jars. What do I do now? Just nvm it and move on to pasteurization?

edit: nvm, I just re-read the beginning of his tek.. it said this recipe will yield 9-12 qts of hydrated substrate lol.

Moving on to pasteurization!

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    #18271630 - 05/15/13 11:15 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Gahhhhhd.

I just realized I need a thermometer for reading the substrate's temps.
It's 1:15AM right now. I'm too lazy to go to Walmart and it's late, I need sleep lol.
I'm gonna put the jars aside and continue tomorrow morning.
Will they be ok in a dark cool place for 12 hours?

I hope so.. that's what I'm doing.. lol I need some sleep :smirk:

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    #18273752 - 05/16/13 12:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

They'll be fine. Just pasteurize them when you have the thermometer today :thumbup:

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    #18274742 - 05/16/13 04:03 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

So when I'm pasteurizing.. I need to keep lifting up the lid to check the temp of the substrate making sure it doesnt go over 160F, right? Unless I have a digital one with a beeper, of course.

You say to let them pasteurize for 60 OR 90 mins if I like.
I start the timer when I turn the stove off when the substrate temp his 140F. I just leave them in the PC for 60 or 90 mins?

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    #18274913 - 05/16/13 04:35 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:eek:

That was a jar full of bacteria IMO, they look pretty greasy in that photo.


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    #18275159 - 05/16/13 05:28 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:mushroom2:

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    #18275443 - 05/16/13 06:41 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

@Timehole

I tossed those a while ago hehe

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    #18276505 - 05/16/13 10:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup:
Yeah for sure, I said "was", I read through the thread mang. :laugh:

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    #18277719 - 05/17/13 07:39 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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So when I'm pasteurizing.. I need to keep lifting up the lid to check the temp of the substrate making sure it doesnt go over 160F, right? Unless I have a digital one with a beeper, of course.

You say to let them pasteurize for 60 OR 90 mins if I like.
I start the timer when I turn the stove off when the substrate temp his 140F. I just leave them in the PC for 60 or 90 mins?




It doesn't hurt to lift the lid to check. Some folks don't even put a lid on the pot.

For my jars I let them hit 165F if they feel like it.  Usually they don't. The idea is not to go over 160F for any extended amount of time during pasteurizing. But a little extra heat for 15 minutes or so hasn't caused me problems before.

I do 60 minutes 95% of the time. I haven't seen a noticeable difference in 60 or 90 minutes.


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    #18288640 - 05/19/13 04:56 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, so I got it all set up and ready.
Now it says to wait 1-3 weeks for colonization of the tub.
How do I know when it's fully colonized? Will the whole tub be white like it was in the jars?

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    #18288676 - 05/19/13 05:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Also, it says to tape all 6 holes since colonization doesn't need too much FAE and that there's enough provided by the lid.

But the lid doesnt have any holes?

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18288741 - 05/19/13 05:15 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

More likely 1-2 weeks. When the surface is completely covered in white it is ready to fruit.

No fresh air exchange is given during colonizing. GE (gas exchange) is provided by the imperfect lid. It doesn't seal perfectly, and that is how it should be.


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18288957 - 05/19/13 05:57 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Alright cool.
Good lookin my G!

Now we play the waiting game...... again.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18289676 - 05/19/13 09:03 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

keep, I thought you were moving this weekend

But...that might be next weekend. Wish you well bro!

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: BovineScattologist]
    #18290015 - 05/19/13 10:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yes I am moving next Sunday, the 26th.
Thanks for the well wishes.
It's going to be a HUGE step towards a new life.
I'm excited, anxious, but also a bit sad that I am leaving my mother behind.
It's all for the better tho.

This monotub will be left behind for my older bro to care for.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18290075 - 05/19/13 10:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Then you start a new monotub in the desert! :hamsterdance:

Go to Area 51 for me...:yesnod:

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: BovineScattologist]
    #18294742 - 05/20/13 08:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

My room is always above 80F... it's usually floating around 82-85F during the day and drops to 77F at night.
I hope this wont completely fuck up my grow lol.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18294784 - 05/20/13 08:34 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Some good news tho.
The mycelium colonized the exposed grains really fast overnight.
They were yellow yesterday from breaking them up.
Now they are white again.


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18294902 - 05/20/13 08:57 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

looking good keep!:thumbup:


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: cronicr]
    #18295055 - 05/20/13 09:32 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:shockingsurprise: beautiful keepsake:thumbup:


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    #18295251 - 05/20/13 10:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Awesome bro!!! So friggen cool!

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18310398 - 05/23/13 05:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I think my holes are too small.
They are only 1 inch in diameter. :confused:

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18310429 - 05/23/13 05:23 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You're fine with 1" holes....

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    #18310649 - 05/23/13 06:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Sweet.
Thanks for the reassurance my man.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18322866 - 05/26/13 12:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)



The last time I get to see my monotub in person.
I hopped on the plane a few hours ago and am now in Denver transferring flights.
I will be in Las Vegas in a few hours.
I'm staying with my cuzzin for a few weeks until I find my own place.
Cheers to the next chapter of my crazy life.
I gotta start on a brand new monotub all over again lol.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18361685 - 06/03/13 08:56 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)




What should I do about this green?



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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18361700 - 06/03/13 09:01 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Toss the tub after the harvest.

Until then, use a salt paste to cover any exposed green spots.

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    #18361727 - 06/03/13 09:11 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Damn.. alright!

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18363934 - 06/03/13 06:34 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Damn bad news.
I told them to harvest all the fruits last night n toss the container.
They waited til this morning n the contam spreader to all the mushrooms.
They're tossing everything.

Grow = unsuccessful

I'm sure it was because they kept that room between 83-90 degrees.
What a waste. That would've been a nice 15+ gram harvest.

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18364021 - 06/03/13 06:52 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

not a waiste if you learned something you can use to fix on your next run:cool:


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: cronicr]
    #18364728 - 06/03/13 09:09 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like the mushies also needed a lot more fresh air exchange.


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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: ninjx]
    #18364764 - 06/03/13 09:15 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

oh well

just inoculated 15 jars for pf tek

starting another mono in 3 weeks.

alllll goooood

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18364790 - 06/03/13 09:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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oh well

just inoculated 15 jars for pf tek

starting another mono in 3 weeks.

alllll goooood



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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18364795 - 06/03/13 09:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

keepsake said:
oh well

just inoculated 15 jars for pf tek

starting another mono in 3 weeks.

alllll goooood




That's how ya do :super:

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18365197 - 06/03/13 10:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup:

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: BovineScattologist]
    #18447473 - 06/20/13 02:42 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Oh my god.. all 15 jars got bacteria in there somehow.
2 weeks and they barely got any mycelium growth.
At the bottom it was wet n soggy n had some black shit.
No green or blue so it wasnt mold.
I tossed them all out and am now waiting for new syringes to arrive.
I reaaaaally want to introduce my big cuzzin to shrooms. He's so excited but our attempt failed.
Now we gotta wait another 2 months for some mushies.

Does anyone live in LV?!?! :cool:

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Re: Monotub Grow Log (1st attempt) [Re: keepsake]
    #18449581 - 06/20/13 09:50 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Agar man. That's the way to ensure a clean inoculate. Then you clone and take prints and never need to buy that variety again. Good luck on your next try.

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