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half pint wide mouth mason jars... in malaysia. and BRF alternative?
    #18075580 - 04/08/13 07:14 AM (11 years, 10 days ago)

sorry guys for a question that's probably been asked to death already, but i've searched online and also looked through old posts here... so the thing is, i live in malaysia, and getting my hands on those mason jars has been a bit of a nightmare. i live in a smaller city so getting anything can be a little bit of a challenge sometimes.

anyway, some questions:

  • if i were to order online, where would be cheapest, taking into consideration shipping and all (bleh, this is going to cost an arm and a leg, i know).

  • are the plastic canning jars from mycosupply.com worth getting? i'm thinking that due to those being lighter, they'd probably cost less to ship.

  • aside from the above two options, are there any good alternatives to using half-pint canning jars for PF tek?

  • oh and lastly... since ever BRF is not exactly dirt-cheap here nor readily available, is there any other product i could substitute for that?


thanks for any suggestions at all!

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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: grommetik]
    #18075609 - 04/08/13 07:32 AM (11 years, 10 days ago)

I've heard people grow out of drinking glasses, they just use foil to make lids. Also you can grind up normal brown rice to make some BRF. I have read some people using brown rice without grinding it. It's not as successful as ground brown rice but at a push I guess it has worked for some people.

I am quite sure that drinking glasses work though.

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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: Exoxo]
    #18075626 - 04/08/13 07:39 AM (11 years, 10 days ago)

Oh just thought also there is this if you can't find brown rice, and have to go with a different tek. You would need a pressure cooker though, but I assume that would be alright to find one in Malaysia. It's different to the PF Tek but if you really can't go down the brown rice route, this is a possibility.

http://www.shroomery.org/9035/Popcorn-Tek-w-pics



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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: grommetik]
    #18075648 - 04/08/13 07:46 AM (11 years, 10 days ago)

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i live in malaysia




I synthesize with you but careful which species you choose to cultivate as it can result in the death penalty.


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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: HybridprX]
    #18075773 - 04/08/13 08:43 AM (11 years, 10 days ago)

Do be careful. Cultivation techniques do work for edibles and actives, but in your case I'd imagine extra care is needed to grow.


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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: HybridprX]
    #18075899 - 04/08/13 09:28 AM (11 years, 10 days ago)

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i live in malaysia




I synthesize with you but careful which species you choose to cultivate as it can result in the death penalty.




What are you guys synthesizing?


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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: Forrester]
    #18075904 - 04/08/13 09:30 AM (11 years, 10 days ago)

Sympathizing

Stupid auto-correct


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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: HybridprX]
    #18075905 - 04/08/13 09:31 AM (11 years, 10 days ago)

:lol:

I think autocorrect hurts more than it helps, lol



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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: Forrester]
    #18076282 - 04/08/13 11:28 AM (11 years, 10 days ago)

ah alright. thanks for all the ideas. yep, i have a pressure cooker, those aren't hard to find here. just that it's not really the culture here to make jam and pickles lol, and even if people do it, we re-use old jars from commercial jams and preserves, because it's economical. we're still a third-world country after all haha and average income is low + exchange rate is high so heaps of stuff aren't too affordable for most.

um as for being careful, yeah i'm quite aware of the legal ramifications. i'll be definitely only be cultivating uh... edible mushrooms. :smile:

a friend used drinking glasses, but his had problems with contamination. what would be a good way to seal the tops to reduce the chances of that happening?

popcorn definitely looks possible, might give that a shot in case brown rice isn't cheap enough to buy in bulk.

thanks again for all the responses here, was good to hear some input.

Edited by grommetik (04/08/13 11:29 AM)

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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: grommetik]
    #18076297 - 04/08/13 11:33 AM (11 years, 10 days ago)

tape the foil to the glass and make sure there's holes for ge,popcorn works ok but any other grain will work better

i never needed tape but it will work,or even a rubber band


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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: cronicr]
    #18076412 - 04/08/13 11:55 AM (11 years, 10 days ago)

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tape the foil to the glass and make sure there's holes for ge,popcorn works ok but any other grain will work better

i never needed tape but it will work,or even a rubber band




alright... will give this a shot if there's no mason jars to be found here then. won't rubber bands/tape melt during the sterilisation process?

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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: grommetik]
    #18076424 - 04/08/13 11:57 AM (11 years, 10 days ago)

nope! just don't use something cheap like scotch tape


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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: cronicr]
    #18076473 - 04/08/13 12:07 PM (11 years, 10 days ago)

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nope! just don't use something cheap like scotch tape




ok, got it! thanks again for the ideas, this was very helpful! will give it a try soon. :smile:

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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: cronicr]
    #18076493 - 04/08/13 12:10 PM (11 years, 10 days ago)

OP, you can use any type of grain, ground into a powder/flour if you're trying for PF tek (as a BRF substitute, I used ground WBS for a while, works GREAT!!).

The plastic jars you linked to would work just fine for you as well.

Since you have a PC, you can just take bird seed, or any type of grain that you can find, hydrate and PC without issue. Then spawn to a mono tub and be golden :thumbup:


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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: slapphappypill]
    #18076651 - 04/08/13 12:41 PM (11 years, 10 days ago)

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OP, you can use any type of grain, ground into a powder/flour if you're trying for PF tek (as a BRF substitute, I used ground WBS for a while, works GREAT!!).

The plastic jars you linked to would work just fine for you as well.

Since you have a PC, you can just take bird seed, or any type of grain that you can find, hydrate and PC without issue. Then spawn to a mono tub and be golden :thumbup:




actually, i did briefly consider doing this! but i'm lacking the confidence to since i've yet to even try out a batch using PF tek, so i thought i'd do that before giving the monotub a shot.

i'll probably switch over to that if the PF tek works out, seems a lot easier and more efficient to do so.

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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: grommetik]
    #18076791 - 04/08/13 01:13 PM (11 years, 10 days ago)

Drinking glasses work just fine. i used this method when i wanted to start growing again but didnt have much money to work with. I didnt even put holes in the foil during sterilisation, just punctiored through the foil when injecting spores, be warned though you generally end up with much larger holes than you would want, i put micropore tape over each hole just to be safe.


if you want to try grains, you dont need canning jars. you can use just about any jar as long as it seals (like jars of sauce or mayonese etc)


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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #18076815 - 04/08/13 01:17 PM (11 years, 10 days ago)

understand that jars are nothing but containers for the cakes, therefore, any glass/plastic container will work. if i remember correctly, you can get tupperware from Giant.


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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: Aaagogo]
    #18076955 - 04/08/13 01:46 PM (11 years, 10 days ago)

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Drinking glasses work just fine. i used this method when i wanted to start growing again but didnt have much money to work with. I didnt even put holes in the foil during sterilisation, just punctiored through the foil when injecting spores, be warned though you generally end up with much larger holes than you would want, i put micropore tape over each hole just to be safe.


if you want to try grains, you dont need canning jars. you can use just about any jar as long as it seals (like jars of sauce or mayonese etc)




thanks again! will keep all that in mind when i attempt it. :smile:

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understand that jars are nothing but containers for the cakes, therefore, any glass/plastic container will work. if i remember correctly, you can get tupperware from Giant.




my concern is whether those plastic containers will hold up to the heat of sterilisation. i'll probably keep an eye out for plastic containers when i head out shopping again. thanks for offering another good suggestion to consider.

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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: grommetik]
    #18077245 - 04/08/13 02:41 PM (11 years, 10 days ago)

yeah, most the Tupperware containers will hold up as long as they don't touch the metal sides of the PC


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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: grommetik] * 1
    #18078987 - 04/08/13 08:12 PM (11 years, 10 days ago)

Tupperware can be nuked, so no prob in the pressure cooker.

if u go plastic, only number 5 will be ok in a pressure cooker

they are stamped on the bottom of the plastic container



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Quote:

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Drinking glasses work just fine. i used this method when i wanted to start growing again but didnt have much money to work with. I didnt even put holes in the foil during sterilisation, just punctiored through the foil when injecting spores, be warned though you generally end up with much larger holes than you would want, i put micropore tape over each hole just to be safe.


if you want to try grains, you dont need canning jars. you can use just about any jar as long as it seals (like jars of sauce or mayonese etc)




thanks again! will keep all that in mind when i attempt it. :smile:

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Aaagogo said:
understand that jars are nothing but containers for the cakes, therefore, any glass/plastic container will work. if i remember correctly, you can get tupperware from Giant.




my concern is whether those plastic containers will hold up to the heat of sterilisation. i'll probably keep an eye out for plastic containers when i head out shopping again. thanks for offering another good suggestion to consider.




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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: slapphappypill]
    #18079771 - 04/08/13 10:46 PM (11 years, 9 days ago)

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yeah, most the Tupperware containers will hold up as long as they don't touch the metal sides of the PC




Quote:

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Tupperware can be nuked, so no prob in the pressure cooker.

if u go plastic, only number 5 will be ok in a pressure cooker

they are stamped on the bottom of the plastic container






ok this solves a lot of problems for me then. plastic/tupperware is doable. at risk of sounding like a broken record, i really appreciate this! thanks guys!

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Re: half pint wide mouth mason jars... in Malaysia. and BRF alternative? [Re: grommetik]
    #23118809 - 04/14/16 09:38 PM (8 years, 3 days ago)

you cant done this in your country, as what i know too easy to get contaminated. you have to do those agar > spawn > wild

you cant do it indoor. i had failed so far but you can try

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