|
CidneyIndole
www.shroomery.OG



Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 4,762
Loc: Love's Secret Domain
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: darealjoker]
#18220729 - 05/06/13 12:30 AM (11 years, 16 days ago) |
|
|
Quote:
darealjoker said: I went to workout the other day n my buddy comes up to me n tells me this girl that he went to school with asked him about me. She also asked him if I knew she was a cop. n said that they were trying to set something up n asked if hed be willing to work with them n that it pays 300. She just became a cop so I know shes no detective. A little strange for a beat cop. This all happened at the gym. Then I called my other buddy n told him about it. He said that about a week ago he was at intake because he was getting his probation transferred to the county we reside in. He said he got asked about me n how close of friends we r. Also who I hang out with n if Im growing anything right now. Im wondering if they screwed up on the search warrant or something n they trying to put another case on me. Or if they r just salty Im out walking around right now. What do u guys think?
No telling what their motives are. They might just be trying to collect more evidence to nail you with, or it could be what you said. From what I've seen and understand, unless they have some pretty damning evidence, and probably sometimes even if they do, they like to get as much dirt on you as possible to ensure the conviction.
I would just lay low and be real careful, if I were you. Would not make me feel all warm and cozy knowing the police were that actively on my ass...
Be safe, and good luck. I hope things work out for you...
-------------------- ------------------------ I am me. We are You.
|
joshisstoned
Motorcycle Enthusiast


Registered: 05/24/09
Posts: 3,544
Loc: Ohio
Last seen: 9 years, 9 months
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: CidneyIndole]
#18222366 - 05/06/13 01:12 PM (11 years, 15 days ago) |
|
|
Pull a Barry cooper and grow edibles or tomatoe plants....then sue the shit out of them for unlawful search and seizure....
|
Alan Rockefeller
Mycologist

Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 48,392
Last seen: 2 days, 23 hours
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: joshisstoned]
#18223303 - 05/06/13 04:43 PM (11 years, 15 days ago) |
|
|
Quote:
joshisstoned said: Pull a Barry cooper and grow edibles or tomatoe plants....then sue the shit out of them for unlawful search and seizure....
You can't sue them unless they knew you were only growing edibles and tomatoes, and searched you anyway.
If they thought you were breaking the law they are immune from lawsuits.
|
joshisstoned
Motorcycle Enthusiast


Registered: 05/24/09
Posts: 3,544
Loc: Ohio
Last seen: 9 years, 9 months
|
|
That may be possible in this case I believe. Tell a friend that next time they ask tell them he is growing tomatoes or shiitake mushrooms with a huge grin on his face.
|
Enlil
OTD God-King




Registered: 08/16/03
Posts: 67,521
Loc: Uncanny Valley
|
|
Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said: If they thought you were breaking the law they are immune from lawsuits.
That's an oversimplification of the doctrine of qualified immunity.
They are immune UNLESS their conduct was in violation of "clearly established law." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified_immunity
-------------------- Censoring opposing views since 2014. Ask an Attorney Fuck the Amish
|
darealjoker
Stranger
Registered: 04/07/13
Posts: 14
Last seen: 10 years, 10 months
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: Enlil]
#18360982 - 06/03/13 01:58 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Im up late reading random shit on google and I find this article about all these residents in Oakland, California who had search warrants wrongfully served because the cops had lied to get the warrants. Then I seen this statement which sparks my interest " sometimes the drugs obtained from informants were never tested--something required to get the warrant." Is that the same for Illinois? Im not in jail only cause they didn't have a field test for anything and I didn't tell on myself. So obviously they didn't have it tested before the warrant was served. What do u think? thanx for all the advice
|
Anonymous #3
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: darealjoker]
#18361090 - 06/03/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
darealjoker said: I was Raided in early march of this year by a state task force. This is in Illnois btw. They kicked the door down n put me in cuffs. They searchd my place n immediately found my grow room. They took 37 lasagna trays full of verm/rye grain substrate. Most were pinning sum weren't. They also took 7 or so mason jars full of myc. They seized maybe a little less than an ounce of caps. Sum roids n a tiny bit of weed. They took me down to the police station n asked me about the roids. told em I thought they were antihistamine pills. They didn't charge me with anything. They said it would take 3 to 6 months to have everything tested. So its been about a month so far n im saving up bond money. My question is will those trays test positive for psilocin after that many months? I would think not n Im pretty sure the jars will for sure. Any help is appreciated.Thanx
If you haven't been charged yet I think you have the option of leaving the country. The statute of limitations on these things is usually 7 years. If you could live abroad for that long I think you could avoid any prison. Do you have any friends or family in foreign lands that can put you up until you get a job there?
|
darealjoker
Stranger
Registered: 04/07/13
Posts: 14
Last seen: 10 years, 10 months
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: Anonymous #3]
#18361100 - 06/03/13 02:42 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
im not moving out of the country that's retarded
|
Anonymous #3
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: darealjoker]
#18361157 - 06/03/13 03:13 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
darealjoker said: im not moving out of the country that's retarded
OK just trying to help. I just don't see whats so great about this one. It's going to lock you away over a frickin mushroom. I'm gonna leave america the first chance I get and I'm not facing any charges. But whatever makes you happy. bye.
|
Vitalux
Stranger from the next universe



Registered: 02/15/11
Posts: 2,695
Loc: Canada
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: darealjoker]
#18361806 - 06/03/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
If you have not been charged.
why are you worrying?
sounds like you are torturing yourself.....live in the moment....
|
Enlil
OTD God-King




Registered: 08/16/03
Posts: 67,521
Loc: Uncanny Valley
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: Anonymous #3]
#18361824 - 06/03/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Anonymous said: If you haven't been charged yet I think you have the option of leaving the country. The statute of limitations on these things is usually 7 years.
Statute of limitations is tolled when one is outside of the jurisdiction. In addition, once he is charged, it is tolled indefinitely until he is tried for the crime.
-------------------- Censoring opposing views since 2014. Ask an Attorney Fuck the Amish
|
johnm214


Registered: 05/31/07
Posts: 17,582
Loc: Americas
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: Anonymous #3]
#18363300 - 06/03/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Anonymous said:
Quote:
darealjoker said: I was Raided in early march of this year by a state task force. This is in Illnois btw. They kicked the door down n put me in cuffs. They searchd my place n immediately found my grow room. They took 37 lasagna trays full of verm/rye grain substrate. Most were pinning sum weren't. They also took 7 or so mason jars full of myc. They seized maybe a little less than an ounce of caps. Sum roids n a tiny bit of weed. They took me down to the police station n asked me about the roids. told em I thought they were antihistamine pills. They didn't charge me with anything. They said it would take 3 to 6 months to have everything tested. So its been about a month so far n im saving up bond money. My question is will those trays test positive for psilocin after that many months? I would think not n Im pretty sure the jars will for sure. Any help is appreciated.Thanx
If you haven't been charged yet I think you have the option of leaving the country. The statute of limitations on these things is usually 7 years. If you could live abroad for that long I think you could avoid any prison. Do you have any friends or family in foreign lands that can put you up until you get a job there?
That doesn't work- the statute of limitations always (so far that I've seen) require charges to be brought in a certain period of time, not convictions obtained. It doesn't matter when they actually get you to try your case, you can be under indictment forever while your hiding out in a foreign country and your still not getting out of it except through witnesses forgetting what they saw, evidence being lost, et cet.
|
Anonymous #3
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: johnm214]
#18365703 - 06/04/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
johnm214 said:
Quote:
Anonymous said:
Quote:
darealjoker said: I was Raided in early march of this year by a state task force. This is in Illnois btw. They kicked the door down n put me in cuffs. They searchd my place n immediately found my grow room. They took 37 lasagna trays full of verm/rye grain substrate. Most were pinning sum weren't. They also took 7 or so mason jars full of myc. They seized maybe a little less than an ounce of caps. Sum roids n a tiny bit of weed. They took me down to the police station n asked me about the roids. told em I thought they were antihistamine pills. They didn't charge me with anything. They said it would take 3 to 6 months to have everything tested. So its been about a month so far n im saving up bond money. My question is will those trays test positive for psilocin after that many months? I would think not n Im pretty sure the jars will for sure. Any help is appreciated.Thanx
If you haven't been charged yet I think you have the option of leaving the country. The statute of limitations on these things is usually 7 years. If you could live abroad for that long I think you could avoid any prison. Do you have any friends or family in foreign lands that can put you up until you get a job there?
That doesn't work- the statute of limitations always (so far that I've seen) require charges to be brought in a certain period of time, not convictions obtained. It doesn't matter when they actually get you to try your case, you can be under indictment forever while your hiding out in a foreign country and your still not getting out of it except through witnesses forgetting what they saw, evidence being lost, et cet.
You have taught me something I didn't know. What would you consider a reasonable amount of time for a drug case like this? Its certainly not homicide where they'd actively do their best to track you down forever. Do you think ten years might be enough for them to lose interest and throw away the evidence and close the case? Seven years, et cet?
|
Alan Rockefeller
Mycologist

Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 48,392
Last seen: 2 days, 23 hours
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: Anonymous #3]
#18366224 - 06/04/13 05:42 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Really depends on the officers involved, and the storage capacity of the evidence room.
|
johnm214


Registered: 05/31/07
Posts: 17,582
Loc: Americas
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: Anonymous #3]
#18367263 - 06/04/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Anonymous said:
Quote:
johnm214 said:
Quote:
Anonymous said:
Quote:
darealjoker said: I was Raided in early march of this year by a state task force. This is in Illnois btw. They kicked the door down n put me in cuffs. They searchd my place n immediately found my grow room. They took 37 lasagna trays full of verm/rye grain substrate. Most were pinning sum weren't. They also took 7 or so mason jars full of myc. They seized maybe a little less than an ounce of caps. Sum roids n a tiny bit of weed. They took me down to the police station n asked me about the roids. told em I thought they were antihistamine pills. They didn't charge me with anything. They said it would take 3 to 6 months to have everything tested. So its been about a month so far n im saving up bond money. My question is will those trays test positive for psilocin after that many months? I would think not n Im pretty sure the jars will for sure. Any help is appreciated.Thanx
If you haven't been charged yet I think you have the option of leaving the country. The statute of limitations on these things is usually 7 years. If you could live abroad for that long I think you could avoid any prison. Do you have any friends or family in foreign lands that can put you up until you get a job there?
That doesn't work- the statute of limitations always (so far that I've seen) require charges to be brought in a certain period of time, not convictions obtained. It doesn't matter when they actually get you to try your case, you can be under indictment forever while your hiding out in a foreign country and your still not getting out of it except through witnesses forgetting what they saw, evidence being lost, et cet.
You have taught me something I didn't know. What would you consider a reasonable amount of time for a drug case like this? Its certainly not homicide where they'd actively do their best to track you down forever. Do you think ten years might be enough for them to lose interest and throw away the evidence and close the case? Seven years, et cet?
I have no idea. A competent police agency/crime lab would keep the evidence indefinatly if the person is under indictment so they can prosecute if/when they are captured. The gov't isn't always competent though.
A big problem with a drug case would be that likely the only evidence needed would be a report of an analysis by a qualified chemist and their testimony. This isn't the kind of evidence that is easily discarded-= you can just keep the chemist's report in some file forever without undue burden.
Most cases of evidence spoilation I've seen involve physical objects that can more easily be misplaced. Especially now with computer, they can pull up the report years later even if the original file was trashed.
|
Anonymous #3
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: johnm214]
#18367391 - 06/04/13 12:24 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
johnm214 said: A big problem with a drug case would be that likely the only evidence needed would be a report of an analysis by a qualified chemist and their testimony. This isn't the kind of evidence that is easily discarded-= you can just keep the chemist's report in some file forever without undue burden.
Thing is though you have the right to confront your accuser. Without the witness who conducted the analysis the analysis might as well not exist because it'll be excluded.
|
Enlil
OTD God-King




Registered: 08/16/03
Posts: 67,521
Loc: Uncanny Valley
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: Anonymous #3]
#18367484 - 06/04/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
More importantly, the state has to prove that you were in possession of the tested material. They also have to prove chain of custody which got it to the lab. People do occasionally die and are unable to provide testimony for such things.
Having said that, waiting out the charges is patently stupid.
-------------------- Censoring opposing views since 2014. Ask an Attorney Fuck the Amish
|
LordSenate
One of the Lost



Registered: 09/15/02
Posts: 37,093
Loc: First Circle of Hell
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: Enlil]
#18367542 - 06/04/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Well I don't know much about state law or anything like that however I did want to chime in about a few things. I got dope for a friend of a friend who ended up overdosing and after I helped get him in the car he wasn't taking to the hospital right away and ended up passing away.. Anyways I was like you arrested then let go while they were investigating. Eventually after like 3-4 months I was arrested, I didn't try and leave state or anything. Originally I was charged with delivery of heroin causing death which was a 10-20 minimum and a maximum of life. I ended up pleading down to 3 years for Delivery of heroin and attempted manslaughter. Anyways my point is it would probably be kinda stupid to run. I ended up at a minimum security prison which wasn't bad at all. Prison sounds horrible but its really not that bad. My case is probably far worse then yours so I could see you getting away with some county time and probation. I would just deal with your charges when they come and not leave the state.
|
Anonymous #3
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: Enlil]
#18367648 - 06/04/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Enlil said: Having said that, waiting out the charges is patently stupid.
Why? The only downside is someone like you won't get paid isn't it? It seems like a win win win to me. Are you really so greedy you think its better for someone like op to rot in prison so you can make a thousand or two dollars off the case?
win 1. Defendant may not rot in the can
win 2. State won't pay for courts or attorneys or for the defendant to rot in the can.
win 3. defending attorney and legal profession won't get paid either.
|
Enlil
OTD God-King




Registered: 08/16/03
Posts: 67,521
Loc: Uncanny Valley
|
Re: Got raided n have a question [Re: Anonymous #3] 1
#18367694 - 06/04/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
You missed out on the price he would pay. Specifically, you neglect to mention that he'd be living on the run in a strange land, having to leave everyone he knows and loves behind for an indefinite period of time.
Prison sucks. Jail sucks even worse. Being on the run may or may not be as bad as either, but when you weigh a lifetime on the run against a few months or years in the can, the choice seems pretty obvious to me.
-------------------- Censoring opposing views since 2014. Ask an Attorney Fuck the Amish
|
|