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OfflinePrimalSoup
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Have you met the travelers?
    #18063828 - 04/05/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

This has something to do with tripping, but it started before I ever did, however, I suspect this is a good place to ask the question. It may seem nuts, but, mother of god, it happens.

Who are they?  I have theories but they aren't backed up by any evidence, so I won't say much about that.

I've met them a few times now, and every time, really weird shit happens.  I don't know if they're trying to tell me something (like, "pay attention to this") or if that's just what happens in their vicinity.

I'll be tripping again pretty soon (YAY) and I know there'll be synchronicity coming out my ears again when I do. :lol:  So I got something I'm curious about here...

Here's the deal.  Years ago, when I was in college, I met this guy one evening, and we were smoking shit and talking, about randomness and probability and such, and I got out this silver dollar that I kept in a drawer and started flipping it and we were calling it, in the air, just to see. Doing pretty well, too.  He was sitting on one bed in the dorm room, and I was sitting on the other, and I flipped the coin high, and was watching it go up, about to the ceiling, only it never came down.  I never found it.  Case the first.

A few years ago, I went to this concert at a local church, and I put my keys in my jean pocket (see the pic below).  So I was sitting along the aisle but one seat on (on the pew) and just when it got started this guy came and sat down next to me, and I noticed he was like hyper-ordinary, like you'd never pick him out of a crowd, nondescript suit, face, everything. He gave off a weird vibe, though, like he didn't belong there.

The guy (I call him a traveler for lack of a better term) stayed there for just one song and then he got up and left.  So later, we got out to the car and I pulled out my key ring - only the car key was no longer on it - just loose in my pocket.  The carbiner was tight.  How the hell did the keys get off the ring and the ring stay tight? That ain't right. Case the second.



Is this some sort of hyperdimensional trick?  Or can they stop time at will?

Where do they come from?  What are they here for? I don't know.  I only know it's uberfreaky, and it raises those hairs on the back of my neck.  Y'all know what I'm talking about.

I could cite a few more examples but I think you get the idea.  So, have you ever met these people?

:peace:PS

PS all replies will be held in strictest confidence and immediately shared with the entire world. :lol:


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18063928 - 04/05/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I am interested in hearing more stories from others and yourself on this

with respect :popcorn:


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: mindapparatus]
    #18063955 - 04/05/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

They are observers more than travelers, I am one of them.  :smirk:
Well written Primal, interesting to read.


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #18064005 - 04/05/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting thread!

I don't have much to contribute, but I'll pop in to keep it in my threads.

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Tmethyl said:
They are observers more than travelers, I am one of them.  :smirk:
Well written Primal, interesting to read.




This is kind of unrelated, but the word observer reminded me of it.  Not too long ago, I smoked some DMT, and had this experience with this entity standing in front of me while I sat on the couch, and he was showing me things that he said our "inferior minds" couldn't understand.  Then he asked me "are you a participant, or just an observer?".  It took me a few seconds to recognize that this was a question for me, and for some reason I just said "yes" (I think I meant that I was a participant, but looking back on it, I haven't done much of participating in my DMT trips).  Thought that was an interesting experience to share.


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: Psilosomniac]
    #18064133 - 04/05/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

If anyone has seen the TV show Fringe, there are these humans from the future called observers, and this made me think of that. Boy would it be interesting if they exist! Cool post!!


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: Psilosomniac]
    #18064157 - 04/05/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I've had some "non-explainable" feelings and theories similar to this in the past, but not quite the same. Sounds like a very interesting idea. The only thing I can say is that I have definitely been able to feel vibes from, not people like in your story, but animals and objects in nature.

I haven't met the travelers, but personally I like to think that all of this unexplained, maybe "mystic" behavior is due to an entity or a power rather than something that can manifest a human form.


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Re: Have you met the travelers? *DELETED* [Re: KingKnowledge] * 1
    #18064579 - 04/05/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: SanMesc]
    #18064610 - 04/05/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Beautiful and super intriguing story SanMesc, I don't even know what to say. :ooo:


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #18064734 - 04/05/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

"we were smoking shit  "I never found it."

you were high, you lost something, thats not uncommon.


" How the hell did
the keys get off the ring and the ring stay
tight?"

your car key is made of plastic, I bet if yoy pry up a bit in the hole theres a hairline crack, I used to work at a dealership it wasn't uncommon for people to lose there car key but still have there key ring and all there other keys.


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Re: Have you met the travelers? *DELETED* [Re: Tmethyl]
    #18064752 - 04/05/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: SanMesc]
    #18064764 - 04/05/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

They're there and they're are real depending on your defintion considering that this is all a coping mechanism of singluarity.

When I was a lad I would see them all the time and hear their wispers and the shadow people are constantly surrounding us.

You don't want to peak under the curtains... it is like walking in on yourself giving yourself a blow job and you look at yourself all shocked and confused but then you just shrug and continue to suck yourself off while you walk away all confused and disgusted with yourself.

Have you ever been to the game show realm?


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: bishlap]
    #18064803 - 04/05/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I haven't met them, but I feel like I've heard this story a thousand times.

Quote:

bishlap said:
"we were smoking shit  "I never found it."

you were high, you lost something, thats not uncommon.


" How the hell did
the keys get off the ring and the ring stay
tight?"

your car key is made of plastic, I bet if yoy pry up a bit in the hole theres a hairline crack, I used to work at a dealership it wasn't uncommon for people to lose there car key but still have there key ring and all there other keys.




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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #18064812 - 04/05/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

SHUN THE NONBELIEVER!


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: nurazz]
    #18064826 - 04/05/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

While ripping through the layers on salvia I threw the pipe at the door and with five witnesses it vanished and we looked for days for it (GLASS pipe) should have broke.. this entire journey weirded me out but it's whatev because it sure as shit beats being within the infinate blank being drivin by anxiety to this place.


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: SanMesc]
    #18064879 - 04/05/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

SanMesc and OP thanks for sharing your stories these are amazing experiences!

SanMesc, seems to me that you've met someone that has a psychic bond with you. Maybe some day you'll find out why!
She may feel you, even over long distances, but based off of your story it seems like the bond is mutually beneficial.

I met a friend one time in a park that seems like he has a psychic bond that I can't explain.

One day in between classes I was walking through a park in the city, listening to the jazz playing on the public speakers and watching people bustle to and fro the blazing afternoon light. I walked down a brick pathway and noticed a guy sitting on a ledge with a guitar case and immediately felt like I wanted to sit down next to him and play some music.
As I approached him I noticed that his eyes were closed and his eyeballs were swimming back and forth in rhythm with the melody echoing out from the public speakers. He reminded me of Jimi Hendrix, being a black guy with a guitar but also his eyelids had the peculiar puffiness of someone who's facial expression perpetually emits a deep calmness. All of these traits called me to sit down next to him.

I sat down and in about half a minute he greeted me, his eyes still closed. We started talking about the Here and Now as best we could immediately, describing our surroundings and talking about the world. Our conversation started totally open and I felt like I was supposed to meet this person.

I told him "I'm going to go meditate, do you want to come with me?". He said that sounded like a good idea and so we went and sat under a tree. We formed our different postures and closed our eyes to focus inward and use our breath to explore our current awareness. What felt like a few minutes was a half hour of meditation and when I opened my eyes I was strongly aware of the connectedness of the world. As if was sharing a thought with my new friend, he said "the physical world is just... here..." and that just so happened to be the exact thought that I had in my mind before he said those words. The thought seemed so profound at that moment, when I was watching people walking all around in the park. I felt the overwhelming sensation of interconnectedness that transcends the physical world, the spirit seeing the material.
Great first meeting.

A few months went by and I had a lot of growing up in those few months. He texted me a while later at just the right time, when I was starting what felt like a new shift of awareness. This time he told me about his music project.

I went home and listened to the 45 minute, 4 song EP he had made. The strange, 11 minute songs were comprised of static noises, high pitched bleeps, singing voices, long drawn out synth notes of many spectrums of sound.
When I finally took my headphones off after listening to the last song entitled "Intergalactic Travels" I felt an immense vibration start at the base of my body and move quickly up to what felt like far above my head. I felt a sensation like my whole world was changing rapidly and that I was somehow going to snap but it also felt like I was absorbing a vast amount of energy. I'm not exactly sure how to describe it, except for maybe by comparing it to someone squeezing a tube of tooth paste and the tooth past surges from the bottom and breaks the cap, but in a soothing kind of way.

After listening to the music I went out of my room and into the kitchen where my brother was walking around. We had a trippy conversation about energy phases, feeling vibrations and internal evolution. Later my brother told me that when he first saw me it looked like I was transparent for split seconds with static running through me, like I was blipping in and out of the matrix. But only for a second.

I wonder what will happen the next time I see my friend.


Edited by Chakra Shock (04/05/13 10:33 PM)


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: SanMesc]
    #18064922 - 04/05/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

:wellthatsweird:  :awkwardconfusion:  :thatistroubling:  :shockedpussy:  :whatwhatwhat:


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: Dest]
    #18064935 - 04/05/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

More kitties please dest!


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: SanMesc]
    #18064940 - 04/05/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

SanMesc said:
all i could think about is how i missed my opportunity. when of corse my out of town friend txt me just saying 'hahahahahh'
How did she know? did she know? was it just the universe lining up?





:lol:

Crazy story, man :psychsplit:


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: Psilosomniac]
    #18064993 - 04/05/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

When it comes down to presences in your external environment that are particularly out of place or even slightly peculiar. I've experienced them whilst tripping but more times when not. Sometimes there are just some people, some breezes, some stares, some voices, some sounds, some movements, some etc etc etc that are just too good to be coincidental


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18065331 - 04/06/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

acid never got me high ... it only changed the world around me ... and i mean it REALLY changed the physical world. I have a lot respect for that.

a google-search on 'shadow people', 'men in black' or 'the hat man' could be interesting ... all different phenomena which keep on being reported all over the world like those deamn ufo-sightings :laugh:

eating mushroom under a clear night-sky almost 100% leads to ufo-sightings for me ... never met an entity though and i dont know if i want to. Never done the really large doses. Only once i went to the forest with shrooms with the intent to find the nature spirits like elves and trolls and gnomes cuz they are reported from old age in various cultures. I was on my own with a fire going and some music. Trying to get my vibe straight. Nothing happend the whole night. In the morning when i got up and was like 'why didn't you show up?' there was this troll rolling over real quick. I saw him just for a splitsecond, but saw that many details on him that it actually couldn't have been made up by myself. He was ugly and quick straight from the forest. I never tried since.

by the way: mermaids are real :wink:


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: ralf]
    #18065580 - 04/06/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

When I was a kid me and my brother were playing around in the living room with a rubber ball. It bounced really well. It was about the size of a ping-pong ball I guess.

It is long ago so I don;t remember the details. We were alone in the room. At some point I threw the ball on the ground, it bounced and I couldn't detect where it went straight away. I guess the angle was off so I lost track of it but I knew its general direction. It went towards a cupboard which was a three part very tall wall cupboard. It had areas for books, some niches for trinkets, a glass door with wine glasses, in one part was our tv.

We never found the bouncing ball again. We searched everywhere. The strangest thing is how as a kid you just accept it after the first disappointment of losing the ball. I have remembered this incident on occasion.

Even many years later when we were redecorating and that cupboard had to be moved, quite an undertaking let me tell you, we looked behind it to see if the ball somehow had gotten behind it, between the cupboard and the wall. But even when we lost it there was no room for it to fall behind it. And it wasn't there.

So where did a rubber ball the size of a ping-pong ball go? Is it possible that under certain circumstances a crack opens in spacetime and something falls through? Where is my damn ball?!? Somewhere, sometime in 2409 someone get hit in the head by a magically appearing rubber bouncy-ball? Or maybe in the year 797? Or hit an inter-dimensional DMT elf on the head?

It seems ridiculous. But apparently these things happens.

You know, there is this term, OOPA. Out OF Place Artefacts. People find objects that seem unlikely to be able to be there where they find them. Some of the most famous ones have been debunked more or less and explained. But there are still some strange items without any explanation.

If you look upon the world as a physicist or just a normal modern person that takes it to be true that the universe does not behave in random ways and that reality is pretty much fixed and does not allow for quirky events like this, such OOPA's are not to be taken seriously. However, if you allow for the weird to have a place in the world it could just be that these things happen. I don't dismiss these stories and reports.

But I never met any weird-vibed people. Hat-wearing or not. In the weird universe, maybe they could be time travelers. How would we recognize them? In the case of the key going off a ring, perhaps in their time a diplomat owned a classic car and left a briefcase in it, but a flood washed the car into the sea and they needed the key to open the door for some reason. And the only way was to get back in time and copy the key, so they stopped time in church ( I heard that many people experience loss of time in church for some reason :laugh:) got the key out of his pocket, made a copy and were sloppy and just didn't put the key back on the ring.

What they would want with my bouncy ball though, is beyond me. :smile:


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: Vaipen]
    #18065734 - 04/06/13 03:25 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Me and my girlfriend call it the Black Hole of lost things.

It happened numerous times. I remember having this ''tripping'' shirt.. I loved it. It was 2 lesbians semi naked hugging eachother in awe, surrounded by all kinds of hyperspace creatures you could imagine, It was trippy as fook, and I always wore it when I tripped.

To this day, this shirt is still vanished. I never took it off outside my home, looked for it for MONTHS. I just literally couldnt make any more sense where the fuck that shirt went, and it was my favourite shirt, my tripping piece of cloth that accompanied me to the edges of the universe.

Guess i left it somewhere there, in space..



I've seen objects fall right next to me, to be found in another floor...

Men in black? Never seen them.

Little Green Men? Small scottish like elvens? Aliens? Demons? White Apes? Fairies? Trolls? Seen them.

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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: SanMesc]
    #18069414 - 04/06/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

when of corse my out of town friend txt me just saying 'hahahahahh'
How did she know? did she know? was it just the universe lining up?




Sounds like you've got one watching you... :thumbup:

Synchronicities are amplified while tripping.

:peace:PS


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: bishlap]
    #18069465 - 04/06/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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your car key is made of plastic, I bet if yoy pry up a bit in the hole theres a hairline crack, I used to work at a dealership it wasn't uncommon for people to lose there car key but still have there key ring and all there other keys.




Negatory, but good idea. I even checked - and of course it never happened before or after.  There was never any pressure on the key ring either, it was just sitting in my pocket the whole time...

Quote:

you were high, you lost something, thats not uncommon.




Nah, IIRC we were just smoking that other shit - tobacco. :lol:

We were both watching the dollar, in the air near the ceiling, when it vanished in mid spin... :what2:  You know how there are things that are engraved on your memory somehow?  Yeah...



Believe me, it'd be a lot simpler if IT HADN'T HAPPENED.  But then it wouldn't be worth a post. :shrug:

Hey, it's not the only thing I've had vanish - yeah I like the "black hole of lost shit" that comes latter on but this is as far as I've gotten in reading the posts.  :thumbup:

:peace:PS


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18069476 - 04/06/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

*Is observing Primals phenotypes and interactions in his native interwebz environment*

Shh.. don't wana' spook 'em.

*moments later*

OY! CRICKEY! HE'S FIESTY!


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #18069499 - 04/06/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Well, hey, if they're from the future, that's gonna be a tough call.

And if...goddam, now you're making me paranoid. :lol:

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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18069507 - 04/06/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

:ohsodevious:


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #18069550 - 04/06/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

"They're beginning to suspect, sir.  Shall we discontinue the experiment?"

"No.  Let it run.  This'll be interesting..."


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18069613 - 04/06/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Now im open to thinking outside the box,but.. this seems.. crazy...maybe even skitzophranic..


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #18069625 - 04/06/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Your brother hid it. Did that shit all the time myself to trip my brothers out.  Mystery solved. Your brother will laugh his ass off knowing youre still wondering where it went.


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #18070498 - 04/07/13 04:03 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

don't forget the reptiles and the robots :P ... does matter exist? In what way?


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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: nurazz]
    #18074785 - 04/07/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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While ripping through the layers on salvia I threw the pipe at the door and with five witnesses it vanished and we looked for days for it (GLASS pipe) should have broke.. this entire journey weirded me out but it's whatev because it sure as shit beats being within the infinate blank being drivin by anxiety to this place.




This is the kind of stuff I was looking for.  I've had manifestations occur as well as disappearances, but whereas I only get things like insects somebody else somewhere else is making out like a bandit... :lol:

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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #18074832 - 04/07/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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I wonder what will happen the next time I see my friend.




"Chakra shock", indeed.  What you described was classic Kundalini awakening - a number of people have reported it from mushrooms.  To get it just from music (or whatever that was) - awesome. :thumbup:

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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18074862 - 04/07/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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When it comes down to presences in your external environment that are particularly out of place or even slightly peculiar. I've experienced them whilst tripping but more times when not. Sometimes there are just some people, some breezes, some stares, some voices, some sounds, some movements, some etc etc etc that are just too good to be coincidental




There are some esoteric traditions that look at these "chance" occurrences as doorways of some sort. I know I started seeing them that way, any time they manifest, if you pay attention you'll find an opening - either back into the Way if you're not synching up, or further into it if you are.

What I wonder, though, is the role of these agents in the manifestations.  Sometimes I end up serving as just such an agent, because I'll get feedback from people like "oh I was just thinking about..." or "funny you should say that" and the like.  I've read numerous accounts where somebody is tripping and thinking about somebody they haven't seen or talked to in a long time, and the phone rings, and yeah...

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Re: Have you met the travelers? [Re: Vaipen]
    #18074933 - 04/07/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

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But I never met any weird-vibed people. Hat-wearing or not. In the weird universe, maybe they could be time travelers. How would we recognize them? In the case of the key going off a ring, perhaps in their time a diplomat owned a classic car and left a briefcase in it, but a flood washed the car into the sea and they needed the key to open the door for some reason. And the only way was to get back in time and copy the key, so they stopped time in church ( I heard that many people experience loss of time in church for some reason :laugh:) got the key out of his pocket, made a copy and were sloppy and just didn't put the key back on the ring.




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