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the man
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Foxglove whats the deal?
#1805445 - 08/12/03 12:14 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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hi i am interested in learnign a bit more about foxglove. i see it at garden centers all the time. i have read a bit about it, such as it contains glucosides which increase blood pressure. i have extreamly low blood pressure 103/67. and often get light headed and cold feet. so my question is about safety and also dose? what else can u tell me? thanks in advance
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cdchriscd
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: the man]
#1805453 - 08/12/03 12:16 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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the man
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: cdchriscd]
#1805469 - 08/12/03 12:20 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea not much info on there. thanks though man
peace
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cdchriscd
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: the man]
#1805482 - 08/12/03 12:21 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ah well, sorry it didn't help.
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Lazerouth
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: cdchriscd]
#1805512 - 08/12/03 12:30 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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well i can tell you one thing. taking foxglove=cardiac arrest.
i think ive got a book with a few chapters on it somewhere. ill post some info later if i can find it.
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DazedSol
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: the man]
#1805691 - 08/12/03 01:02 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes foxglove is not something for an amatuer to mess with......
I would imagine you would need to extract a pure form of the desired alkaloids from the plant in order to safely and accurately dose....because im sure the alk. content would vary from plant to plant..........
i'll see if i still have an article on this and post if so............
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: DazedSol]
#1805774 - 08/12/03 01:20 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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mmmmm... digitalis... (* gnrmie faints dead away from hypotensive crisis; 911 is called... will ambulance arrive in time? *)
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DazedSol
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: gnrm23]
#1806146 - 08/12/03 02:50 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Exactly........
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: the man]
#1806359 - 08/12/03 03:42 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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>>such as it contains glucosides which increase blood pressure. i I donno if it contains Glucosides, as in diabetic medications (Glucagon TM), but it does contain Cardiac Glycosides, which means it'll kill you by decreasing cardiac output thus dropping your blood pressure, and bam you're dead. If you live in a place with Volunteer EMS agencies you're probably a goner as they might not make it to you in time depending on the time of day, and alsol the volunteer as well as well as the paid squads can't do much but manage your airway and do CPR, you gotta wait for the NREMT-P (paramedics) to come and administer drugs, and i donno if they can even do anything to help you, other than epinephrine and shock your shit.
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the man
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: neuro]
#1806382 - 08/12/03 03:49 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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alright done and done.yes perhaps it was glycosides. and it was used in germany for low blood pressure. but perhaps that is wrong. thanks for your help the kind of info i need. thanks
the man
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felixhigh
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: the man]
#1807666 - 08/12/03 09:51 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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don't mess with it man, why don't you use medicine to treat your blood issue? some meds _are_ based on digitalis substances...
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the man
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: felixhigh]
#1807922 - 08/12/03 11:13 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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well doctors wont mess with me. i got anxiety and low blood pressure. but im too young. so no worrys i jsut wanted to knwo a it more about this plant. thanks
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the man
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: felixhigh]
#1807926 - 08/12/03 11:14 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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well doctors wont mess with me. i got anxiety and low blood pressure. but im too young. so no worrys i just wanted to knwo a bit more about this plant. thanks
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: the man]
#1808390 - 08/13/03 04:23 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Doctors won't mess with you?
Go to America and see a real fucking doctor.
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1808410 - 08/13/03 04:56 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fox glove contains 4 glucosides, of three of which are cardiac stimulants. The most powerful,which is highly poisonous, is digitoxin, which is a cumulative toxin that can easily kill you Side effects of poisoning, which occurs even in small doses range from headaches, to diarrhea. Other symptoms to name a few are fainting, blurred vision, irregular heart beat (or slowing), rashes and depression.
However it has been used for hundreds of years to aid in heart problems such as low blood pressure but it was commonly used on external wounds. There are many "potions" out there I can send you one if you need it....
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Lazerouth
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read the book. says it must be injected. unless your a doc yourself better forget thee idea
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the man
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: Lazerouth]
#1809185 - 08/13/03 12:01 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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THanks phuker. that is mroe along the lines i was looking for i knew i wasn twrong about low blood pressure and glucosides. where did u get that info i would liek to read more. thanks again
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Re: Foxglove whats the deal? [Re: the man]
#1810392 - 08/13/03 04:44 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well atleast someone got to the bottom of it. However I think glucoside is still wrong as that referrs to glucose, glycosides has always been the term i've found in reference to fox glove.
However still don't try using this plant.
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