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Drippy
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Now taking bets.....
#1801220 - 08/11/03 10:21 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey everybody. I'm a first time grower and am wondering how badly I may have screwed up before I try again this weekend. I have read many posts and many of you guys have great advise, my hats off to you all.
I picked up a sryinge from the local hemp hut (should have stayed with Hemp BC, they know their shit). I got caorse vermiculite by accident, and the sryinge is of an unkown strain. I ground my own flour. I also baked all ingredients before mixing and boiling.
Mistakes: I used boiled tap water (didn't think of it until later).
I mixed the ingredients in each jar (trying to make sure the exact amounts are in each jar) so there isn't perfect consistency in the jars.
I miss read the guide (it said indirect light was ok) and put all 12 jars in a warm spot that got indirect light for 5 days. Nothing happened. I have since moved the jars to to seperate locations that have no light. It's been 5 days with no sign off contams or growth.
Anyways I have a spore print from FSRE (PES Haw) and am planning on innoculating another 12 jars this weekend. I will be mixing the ingredients before adding to the jars and using fine finer vermiculite etc. Any advice? I know to be patient but how long should I give the old jars (I'm thinking another 2 weeks). Air temp is 20 - 29 in my house.
Thanks.
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MrSleep
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Re: Now taking bets..... [Re: Drippy]
#1801227 - 08/11/03 10:24 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wouldn't worry about the spores or the verm or the tap water. I might worry about the consistency of the jars though. Keep the jars in the dark. I think you will have luck...just keep waiting. Next batch of jars with your PES Hawaiians, make all the jar substrate in a bowl then scoop the amount you want into each jar. -Mr.Sleep
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soochi
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Re: Now taking bets..... [Re: Drippy]
#1801233 - 08/11/03 10:25 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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coarse verm is fine (I actually perfer it)
was the water boiling while you were making the substrate? you might have a problem with the rice getting gooey.
Are you sure you ground the rice to a fine powder?
Don't worry about the light situation, 5 days is nothing. just make sure they are in a dark warm place now.
Give them plenty of time (three weeks in some cases)
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Psilocybin_monkey
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Re: Now taking bets..... [Re: MrSleep]
#1801247 - 08/11/03 10:32 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's nice to see fellow canadians on this forum
It's funny because I also have a unknown strain I got from a hemps store from awhile ago I kinda think it is Gulf Coast but it is too potent to be GC I think.
To mix your substrate 4 parts verm/1part BRF/1part water although you may have to add a lil more how you can gauge is to squeeze it and if it starts to yeild water then it is good.I use a mixing bowl and I mix the verm and BRF before adding the water.
If you just inoculated the jars you don't want them NO WHERE NEAR LIGHT because they will try to start pinning before they are 100% colonized.
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Quote:
Psilocybin_monkey said: To mix your substrate 4 parts verm/1part BRF/1part water
are you sure you dont mean 2 parts verm, 1 part BRF, 1 part water???
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Psilocybin_monkey
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yeah i'm sure 4 parts verm
I tried 2 parts and way too much rice in the jars and there clumps up and I couldn't see shit
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Drippy
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Hey thanks for the info. My guide said 2/3c verm 1/4c brf and 1/4c + 1 Tbs water since it was home ground flour. I will try 4:1 for the new batch. Does the courseness of the verm affect the amount used? I would imagine that with course verm I would be better going 3:1. Is it the brf or the growth that holds the cake together in the end?
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shakta
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Re: Now taking bets..... [Re: Drippy]
#1802084 - 08/11/03 02:32 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have to disagree here. I have had good luck with the 2:1:1 ratio. I think 4:1:1 would stretch the flour out to much and not give the cake enough nutrients or water for that matter.
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Ravinoff
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Re: Now taking bets..... [Re: shakta]
#1802182 - 08/11/03 02:55 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I also agree, 2:1:1 for verm/BRF/water is correct.... 4:1:1 and your cakes will dry out
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Psilocybin_monkey
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Re: Now taking bets..... [Re: Ravinoff]
#1802706 - 08/11/03 05:18 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol the cake will not dry out because I use the same anout of water as in the 2:1:1 PF tek.
Drippy I would go by the books for the PF Tek if your new to growing and maybe you can try 4:1:1 after you get the hung of things
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MsPacMan
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In canada you can buy spores at Hemp Shops?
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Psilocybin_monkey
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Re: Now taking bets..... [Re: MsPacMan]
#1802790 - 08/11/03 05:46 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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yep,you can buy them at a god damn connor store if you wanted hahaha it's isn't illegal to grow magic mushrooms in canada you just can't sell dried mushrooms or have a set up soo big that it looks like you are going to sell them
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Drippy
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Yeah, aint Canada great! Bill C-7 was supposed to change it so that it was illegal to sell fresh ones too but it is under review since the pot laws also in C-7 are being changed to decriminalize it. I love BC. I can light one up while inocullating my substrate as long as it doesn't contaminate the substrate....
Anyways, I will stick with the recipe untill I get at least one crop. After that the real fun of experimentation begins. Thanks again. Then again I am feeling kind of brave and since 2/3 cup verm 1/4 cup brf is basically 2.5:1 perhaps I'll try 3:1....
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Psilocybin_monkey
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Re: Now taking bets..... [Re: Drippy]
#1802984 - 08/11/03 06:41 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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CANADA RULES!!!
that thats cool and after you can try other mixtures
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MsPacMan
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im really considering moving there...not just cuz mushrooms ( ) but there are a lot of job opportunities in my field of work there....hoepfully when i graduate in Feb. I'll be up there looking around. sorry...just rambling.
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houshroom
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Re: Now taking bets..... [Re: MsPacMan]
#1811643 - 08/13/03 10:34 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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what are you?
a mounty?
sorry couldn't resist
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MsPacMan
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Re: Now taking bets..... [Re: houshroom]
#1813240 - 08/14/03 11:14 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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whats a mounty? i was going to go into the music business, but maybe this mounty thing you speak of will be a better choice. ..
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shirley knott
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Re: Now taking bets..... [Re: MsPacMan]
#1813375 - 08/14/03 11:59 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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a mounty is a canadian man who wears big trousers and masturbates behind fire engines. and that's *official*
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Drippy
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I prefer the slang version. Mounty coming from the idea of being mounted. When one is really hung over you would say " Wow I feel like I've been f*cked up the ass by bear over a cliff in the woods!", a very real possibility here with so many bears. Of course this is hard to mumble when really hung over so it has been shortened to "Wow feel like a mounty". So if you do visit BC or Canada becareful how you use the phrase Mounty or you could be in for a surprise....
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MsPacMan
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Re: Now taking bets..... [Re: Drippy]
#1813574 - 08/14/03 12:50 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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good to know. thanks!!!
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