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djmattz0r
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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: Acaterpillar]
#18787863 - 09/02/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I find that you don't need anything to retain humidity unless you are grafting seedlings that will shrivel up in a day or 2. I find larger grafts are fine without since the scion usually contains enough fluid to survive until it is joined to the stock. Whenever I get red it is usually some sort of mold or infection because it usually means my graft is failed and I wasn't sterile enough or it was too humid, etc.
If you catch it quick enough you can just re-cut and re-graft and hope for better luck next time. Here's hoping your first graft is a success
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karode13
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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: Acaterpillar]
#18788294 - 09/02/13 04:37 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Acaterpillar said:
Yeah I read to put a bag over to keep from dehydrating, but I decided to remove the bag to increase airflow. I'm going to watch it closely. If it's noticeably worse tomorrow, then I'm going to re-cut.
If the scion doesn't have any discoloration will I still need to cut it, or just re-sanitize? I ask, because I cut kind of high on it, and I'm worried any higher and it may not survive. I'm new to grafting, so maybe the size of the scion doesn't matter too much as long as there is a vascular ring.
You don't need humidity bags for these sorts of grafts and is likely why you're having the problem you have now. Reddish tones are a humidity related issue ime, I get it if using electrical tape, only around the areas where the tape touches the stock. Reddish tones go away with good airflow. Orange rot on the other hand is evident and eats through the flesh in days.
The fresh cuts dehydrating and sinking inward isn't necessarily a bad thing, so long as you've applied the correct pressure then the union, where the Two cut cactus meet, should cauterise and heal. It's just an aesthetic thing with the sunken in stock. I like to leave my fresh grafts inside on the shady side of the house in a windowsill. They sit there for a fortnight, getting rotated 180° daily to prevent the sinking edges.
You should post a good picture of the graft if possible, showing us the problem. It's always hard to tell from descriptions and I dislike being hasty telling people to cut their plants. I very rarely cut any of mine.
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Dreadhead
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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: karode13]
#18794441 - 09/03/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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These were grown from seeds labeled Trichocereus peruvianus. They dont like my climate very much so I have to keep them inside during winters and they get a bit long and thin. Some were recently cut:
  
This one got a little bit too much light recently:
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intelligentlife
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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: Dreadhead] 1
#18797668 - 09/04/13 01:18 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Few photos from my cactus plants, thanks for one fellow grower who I have got few seedlings and cuttings! 
I write to picture what seedlings there is

Some sort of san pedro trichocereus cutting

Trichocereus sold as T. Pachanoi ..hybridized

Trichocereus sold as T. Peruviana ..hybridized both

Trichocereus Bridgesii seedlings, possible some sort of hybridizing on these too

Trichocereus Camarguensis

Trichocereus Bridgesii log cutting with new growth emerging

South american Trichocereus Pachanoi(right) and offshoot cutting(left) probably from pachanoi. I covered my hand with photo editor to cover my hand with tattoo
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gopener
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Quote:
intelligentlife said: Few photos from my cactus plants, thanks for one fellow grower who I have got few seedlings and cuttings! 
I write to picture what seedlings there is

Some sort of san pedro trichocereus cutting

Trichocereus sold as T. Pachanoi ..hybridized

Trichocereus sold as T. Peruviana ..hybridized both

Trichocereus Bridgesii seedlings, possible some sort of hybridizing on these too

Trichocereus Camarguensis

Trichocereus Bridgesii log cutting with new growth emerging

South american Trichocereus Pachanoi(right) and offshoot cutting(left) probably from pachanoi. I covered my hand with photo editor to cover my hand with tattoo

That pachanoi hybridise.....
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hetfield
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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: gopener]
#18798391 - 09/04/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here are my trichs:



Ive got a bunch more of the mont old seedlings but the close-up pictures looked better, the rest of them look similar
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gopener
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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: hetfield]
#18798740 - 09/04/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I got a dump question, most probably, why some pachanois have spikes on areoles and others never made, or they made tiny ones...
My pachanois have big, nasty spikes!
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modern.shaman
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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: gopener]
#18798743 - 09/04/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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The amount of environment(sunlight) and genetics affect the size of the spines.
Edited by modern.shaman (09/04/13 11:19 AM)
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gopener
lil_dude



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Quote:
modern.shaman said: The amount of environment(sunlight) and genetics affect the size of the spines.

Is it somewhere better to have or not spikes?
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psi
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My "T. pachanoi" have pretty big spines compared to pics I've seen online, not sure if that's really what it is or what. I grew it from seed from a commercial vendor. I wouldn't mind having some with minimal spines for grafting purposes and general ease of handling.
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gopener
lil_dude



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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: psi]
#18798781 - 09/04/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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psi said: My "T. pachanoi" have pretty big spines compared to pics I've seen online, not sure if that's really what it is or what. I grew it from seed from a commercial vendor. I wouldn't mind having some with minimal spines for grafting purposes and general ease of handling.
Yes, i would like to have some with mini spikes too! Now i cant touch the skin of the cactus at all, bat man, they look beautiful!
You make me think that maybe mine is seed grown!! At least they look like they are!
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modern.shaman
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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: psi]
#18798789 - 09/04/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have a Pachanoi that has larger spines in part sun and smaller spines in full sun; same clone. Another does the opposite; full sun, larger spines.
Nutrients MAY also play a role but I don't know if it does since I feed all of mine the same.
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gopener
lil_dude



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I will start observe what is going to happen with little changes. Too see if i can spot anything.
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intelligentlife
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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: gopener]
#18800078 - 09/04/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have noticed that with light and other factors, also fertilizers have a role with spine growth to trichocereus btw.. Actual spine growth, form and color of skin is combination of environment and nutrients cactus gets.
With lack of nitrogen at growth season, my trichos grow slim and poor spines, but if used high nitrogen fertilizers, spine growth still needs the light and also spectrum of light has an effect to form of trichocereus spines and aeroles..
Atleast I have find out that fertilizers with light ofc too gives more vigorous spines than poor soil grown trichos..
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permafrying
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just planted my first pedro today i still have a small cutting to log plant into one of these pots after it dries up im excited to watch em grow and build onto my collection hopefully i can afford to get some bridgesii or peruvianus soon.

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kyoto
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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: permafrying]
#18802947 - 09/05/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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T. bridgesii on pereskiopsis: 9 july 2013
 5 september 2013

Peruvian: 27 may 2013
 5 september 2013

Bridgesii (seedling i bought) 27 march 2013
 5 september 2013

T Pachanoi Monstr./crest. 25 october 2012
  5 september

Amazing how much they grow. I love them more every day!
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Corporal Kielbasa


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: kyoto]
#18803173 - 09/05/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wanna take pix of mine, but they are still in recovery. Last summer they almost died under families care while I was out of state. This year they did better at watering over the summer. But now since i been home I was able to keep them watered and now they are putting on major growth. Next year I'll show off the children or maybe later this fall after they fatten up some more.
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nannybooboo

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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: kyoto]
#18803416 - 09/05/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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kyoto said: T. bridgesii on pereskiopsis: 9 july 2013
 5 september 2013

Peruvian: 27 may 2013
 5 september 2013

Bridgesii (seedling i bought) 27 march 2013
 5 september 2013

T Pachanoi Monstr./crest. 25 october 2012
  5 september

Amazing how much they grow. I love them more every day!
nice growth, do you keep them all indoors or out?
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kyoto
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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: nannybooboo]
#18803512 - 09/05/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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Inside on the windowsill of a south western faced window. I can't keep them outside normally, my climate is just to wet. I don't have adequate protection against rain so i keep them inside. I do put them in front of an open window sometimes, that way they can catch some real sunrays without the glass in between.
I might plant some outdoor though if i have adequate protection.
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Megatrondon
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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: kyoto]
#18803701 - 09/05/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 9 months ago) |
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JUST NEED SOME HELP WITH ID
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