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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #24564954 - 08/19/17 11:43 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Nice pics! All of them look really healthy.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: El Torcho]
    #24565084 - 08/19/17 12:47 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks. It rained like a week and a half ago and yesterday i watered them. I came back to find them dehydrated. They perk up real nice after a couple of sparklings waters. I dont let them drive afterwards thoigh. :lol:


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: nolongrlurkin] * 1
    #24565093 - 08/19/17 12:51 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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I just read on a fb group that if you know the right people, all the badass super expensive clones will be in your grasp..




Grow from seed.  Nourish that addiction and become one with it.  You get to be the first to bio-assay each seedling when it matures.  You might be the grandfather of the next expensive clone.

Did I say bio-assay?  My bad, I meant plant in your garden for decorative purposes.  Silly wabbit.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: KenInVic]
    #24565130 - 08/19/17 01:07 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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KenInVic said:
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I just read on a fb group that if you know the right people, all the badass super expensive clones will be in your grasp..




Grow from seed.  Nourish that addiction and become one with it.  You get to be the first to bio-assay each seedling when it matures.  You might be the grandfather of the next expensive clone.

Did I say bio-assay?  My bad, I meant plant in your garden for decorative purposes.  Silly wabbit.




:werd:

Seed grown. Go crazy.


I envy all you who xan grow indoors and under lights. It will be years before i get anything nice. Especially hard grown.

These are my only pampered babies. They are growing better than the outdoor ones, obviously.


And here is that pic of my scop seedlings. And within that group a weirdo comes out. Super easy to spot.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #24565136 - 08/19/17 01:10 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

One more question, when do you indoor growers start acclimating to ambient humidity? Not like outside but i would like to open the bags on my windowsill one day.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: nolongrlurkin]
    #24565293 - 08/19/17 02:14 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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I find the addiction pulling me the strongest when i see a tricho i cant have or afford.. i go mad, more mad than usual, and i black out for about 3 hours only to come to the realization that my bank account is empty and my email is full of paypal receipts.. i have gotten some outstanding stuff tho!! Regret level--0




That sounds about right.  :guiltyascharged:

Lipa's regrets? You know i aint got none homie :grin:

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Get ya cactus on dawg

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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #24565426 - 08/19/17 03:30 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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One more question, when do you indoor growers start acclimating to ambient humidity? Not like outside but i would like to open the bags on my windowsill one day.



I've removed the ziploc on seedlings that popped less than a week prior with no ill effects, maybe reduced growth rate but I can't really tell so far (they're now about a month and a half old).


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: MeanGreen]
    #24565454 - 08/19/17 03:41 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Outside is usally when i do it but even in relative humidity they take a beating on growth. But inside is different. I really want to give these guys a leg up on overall growth. Isowed 4 batches of seeds today. But those are outside in the shade. Even still, after a month or 2 i will probably open tha baggies and let them just acclimate.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human] * 1
    #24565503 - 08/19/17 04:03 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

What would you guys do with this guy:



It's a 2 headed bridgesi hybrid that pupped once early on, the first pup has grown super slow. Just noticed the 2 new pups forming at the base too :eek: The one in the middle looks pretty sketchy, there is like 0 room for it :lol:

Speaking of funny pups check out these:


Brigesii cutting I rooted log style, the first pup was normal but this second one sprung up from the soil :tongue2:


Pachx peru and a peru I also rooted log style, they both took forever to root and pup but I think it was worth it.

Lastly I had to degraft part of my biggest graft today, it was getting unstable and I figured I should finally cut it back:


I had it labeled as a validus but I am not sure what it is exactly, maybe a pach x validus or something. Anyways it's a real beauty, I wish I had a scale to weigh it as it's chunky! Going to let it callous and get it rooting soon, I bet it will grow like a champ :super:

:cheers:


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: musiclover420]
    #24565520 - 08/19/17 04:06 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Id let that guy just be. Ya know, since ypure asking.

And that last graft is :Awemazing:


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #24565533 - 08/19/17 04:12 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Ferril, I get aluminum disposable pans, poke holes in the bottom, fill em with dirt and sprinkle my seeds on top! I put them in a fruiting chamber set up without the perlite, but instead i pour water in the bottom, enough to  saturate the dirt from the bottom. I give the top of the dirt a good misting and shut the lid. After the initial soaking, i keep spraying the topsoil to keep it moist. They stay inside, in my florida room (!!!!) For atleast 6 months. After that, i take the tote outside to acclimate them to the sun and humidity over another 4 months. At the 10 month mark, if everythi g looks good enough, i seperate them and repot!


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #24565552 - 08/19/17 04:21 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Id let that guy just be. Ya know, since ypure asking.

And that last graft is :Awemazing:




You think it will be alright? I would hate to have to cut 1 of the 2 original heads so that would be nice. It just looks so squished :shocked:

Also thanks, I am really proud of that graft. It's at least 2-3 years old and hasn't even tried rooting. I just kept re potting it when it would get rootbound :awesomenod:

I would have liked to let it keep going another year or two but it was getting way too heavy for the peres stalk to handle :sad: At least the base will pup.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #24565653 - 08/19/17 05:07 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Whoa! That graft is badass buddy! I bet its going to grow great on its own. Right on :cool:


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #24565723 - 08/19/17 05:36 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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nolongrlurkin said:
Ferril, I get aluminum disposable pans, poke holes in the bottom, fill em with dirt and sprinkle my seeds on top! I put them in a fruiting chamber set up without the perlite, but instead i pour water in the bottom, enough to  saturate the dirt from the bottom. I give the top of the dirt a good misting and shut the lid. After the initial soaking, i keep spraying the topsoil to keep it moist. They stay inside, in my florida room (!!!!) For atleast 6 months. After that, i take the tote outside to acclimate them to the sun and humidity over another 4 months. At the 10 month mark, if everythi g looks good enough, i seperate them and repot!




10,months is a good starting point. I like this advics. Thanks man.

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musiclover420 said:
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ferrel_human said:
Id let that guy just be. Ya know, since ypure asking.

And that last graft is :Awemazing:




You think it will be alright? I would hate to have to cut 1 of the 2 original heads so that would be nice. It just looks so squished :shocked:

Also thanks, I am really proud of that graft. It's at least 2-3 years old and hasn't even tried rooting. I just kept re potting it when it would get rootbound :awesomenod:

I would have liked to let it keep going another year or two but it was getting way too heavy for the peres stalk to handle :sad: At least the base will pup.




Have you seen my Lucy bro? Heads all over the place. I think it sould be fine. Eventually it will find its way out. All up to,you. Its gonna be abitch to cut out if you do decide to go that route. Lots of,luck bro.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #24565799 - 08/19/17 06:09 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

I’ve grown both in zip locks and open tubs, just depends how many seeds I’m planting.

If I only have one packet or I want to keep specific crosses separate ill poke a bunch of holes in a small Tupper wear and fill it with soil and then sprinkle a small amount of rinsed coco coir on top just to help hold some water and its resistance to mold, (iv used both 50/50 soil/perlite and just straight non peat moss soil and both have worked fine for me) I then fill a bowl with water and lower the tuber ware into the water until the soil is fully saturated with water, I then let it drain off any excess that the soil doesn’t want to hold onto. After I lay the lid on top of the tuperwear and zap it in the microwave until the soil is visibly steaming but not too much. I wait till it cools then I sprinkle the seeds onto the top of the fine coco coir, what also seems to help keep mold at bay is I fill a small spray bottle with ¼ diluted hydrogen peroxide and just give the top soil and seeds a few gentle sprays to kill any mold spores on the seeds. Ill then put the Tupperware in a gallon zip lock under a light. I keep them in the bags as long as I can, sometimes I’ll see some mold start to grow on the soil at that point I decide if I want to try another spray of the dilute hydrogen peroxide or if I just remove the whole thing and let the soil dry out some. I’ve never had any problems with sudden hardening off but I live right next to the sea so my relative humidity is usually in the 80-90s so it’s not a massive shock to my seedlings.

For the tub, I try to pasteurize my soil but depending on the side of the tub and amount of soil sometimes I just say fuck it and don’t, I still case with a thin layer of coco coir and spray with dilute hydrogen but since I don’t use air tight lids on the tubs it’s kind of a moot point. The tubs tend to get a little mold on the top soil for me but I’ve never had it bad enough that it over ran or killed any of the seedlings and if the mold keeps spreading ill just remove the lid and let the tub dry out some and that usually resolves the issue. The higher and more constant humidity of the zip lock bag seems to result in better germination rates for me.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: DGB]
    #24565998 - 08/19/17 08:12 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

I pretty much do what DGB said.  I've sown about 100 bags of seed and have over 100 to go.  Most will be started soon under lights and them moved outside early spring.  These latest batches I mixed the soil, put down a good layer of coarse sand, then sowed the seeds on top of that. Way easier to see the little seeds if any tried to get out of line and hop into another line of different hybrids.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: pinedownpioneer] * 1
    #24566020 - 08/19/17 08:27 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Keeping the trichs safe.  Lots of these guys at the property. One had the biggest web I've ever seen. I'll try to get a picture tomorrow.



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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: pinedownpioneer]
    #24566094 - 08/19/17 09:03 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Keeping the trichs safe.  Lots of these guys at the property. One had the biggest web I've ever seen. I'll try to get a picture tomorrow.






Loving that canopy brosky:grampofapproval:


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #24566442 - 08/20/17 12:22 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

What feral said is that for shade?

I have my cactus in full sun with not many other options. A few are getting quite yellow. Have been thinking about rigging up a shade cloth. What do you guys think? I mean they will have plenty of shade soon with the Northwest fall coming.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #24566698 - 08/20/17 06:01 AM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
Lastly I had to degraft part of my biggest graft today, it was getting unstable and I figured I should finally cut it back:


I had it labeled as a validus but I am not sure what it is exactly, maybe a pach x validus or something. Anyways it's a real beauty, I wish I had a scale to weigh it as it's chunky! Going to let it callous and get it rooting soon, I bet it will grow like a champ :super:

:cheers:




This is the biggest graft i think i ever saw, amazing.
How long has it been on the pere?


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