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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: Junkheadrev]
    #18598302 - 07/23/13 04:46 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I found a blog which will interest people here: trichocereus forestry service. The focus is a jaw-dropping hydroponic trichocereus setup:bow2:


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: chums of chance]
    #18599686 - 07/23/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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the reality is even large indoor cacti gardens need little water or light.




And of course one of the very next pics shows some horribly etoliated trichos lol.  I looked through the entire blog and there's some great info mixed in with downright bullshit, but that's the internet for you.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: SuperD]
    #18599947 - 07/23/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Ain't that the truth.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: SuperD] * 1
    #18600019 - 07/23/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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SuperD said:
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the reality is even large indoor cacti gardens need little water or light.




And of course one of the very next pics shows some horribly etoliated trichos lol.  I looked through the entire blog and there's some great info mixed in with downright bullshit, but that's the internet for you.



:lol: I was kind of thinking the same thing.
I have had etiolated cacti with dense spine formation; but I would still call it etiolated :shrug:

Check out these sexy pachanoi pups that are erupting from the ground :awesome:



Also, I have a bridgesii pup I recently separated from it's stock.
It appears to be showing some signs of variegation. Could this be the result of a lack of nutrients? Or perhaps too much sun?


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #18608691 - 07/25/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I am at project to making crafting stock from etiolated tricho. There is what I started at first of July.


I cut them in to 3 same size pieces.


I have used Clonex rooting hormone and top section has got roots in 20days.


I have heard that clonex drain life from cactus and maybe mid section was somehow failed and it's dehydrated and rotted, I throw it away.


Bottom section is ok but there is no roots yet but it seems there is soon pup roots.


What I am tryin to say that Clonex product seems to fast the rooting process but however, I don't know why mid section was died so fast and bottom section has not rooted yet but there is something visible marks that there will come roots soon.

I have planted the top part of cactus in to moist soil to let it grow roots more. However, I have never seen so much rooting comes from cutting without rooting hormone and Clonex seems to be very effective. As you can see the top section from etiolated cactus, there is lots of roots. It has been on clay pot where has been few rocks to keep it at vertical position but I have not used any soil where these cuttings has been. I have also one top section cutting what has not roots yet but rooting to one cutting in 20days with this amount of roots seems that Clonex is ok gel to use for trichos. I don't know why cuttings without growth tips doesn't have make roots but I have one cutting with growth tip without roots so maybe it's not the case in here. However. Midsection seems to get worse with clonex and top and bottom section seems to be ok.

At first I hope to get 3 stocks for lophophora grafting but now I have two cause mid section died and rotted and I have read that Clonex somehow "drain life" out of cactus but I don't know does this proof anything or do I have caused the rotting and dehydrating so fast.

Hope rest of my cuttings will root too. Seems that clonex will not speed up so much the rooting process but when rooting starts there comes massive amount of roots instead of one or two rootbuds. I have few cuttings used clonex gel and they seems to be fine.

There is some proof of Clonex gel and this is my project to make grafting stocks for lophs. I have rooted cuttings without clonex before and never seen this much of roots coming at once. Usually I have seen one or two root buds instead of massive rooting. And +20days are quite fast rooting. However, I don't know why mid section died and rotted, there was no damage on the cutting or so. Maybe Clonex should not be used so small cuttings as this.

However, with trichos and Clonex, big cuttings are totally worth of use this product to fasten up the rooting and get lots of roots and once. I heard that very large cuttings can take up to 1 year for rooting so with clonex and big cuttings there is great benefit.

I will post pictures of bigger cutting used clonex when it shows signs of rooting. I will not sit on empty clay pot with few rocks give shade to bottom.

Hope I got good grafting stocks cause etiolated trichos are very effective with grafting loph buttons. I have got scion attached to etiolated section in one week so I hope I can get results soon. Now I have to just wait and look another cuttings to root and see how much stocks I can get to graft my peyotes. Clonex is totally worth of but it seems that too small cuttings can die cause of it. I don't see any other reason why the mid section just died and rotted. Never happened before until I used clonex for these. Success with small cuttings are two out of three.:thumbup:

If you think to use clonex. I would say use it for bigger cuttings.. It may take time to root but when rooting happens, there is lots of roots coming from cactus. This has been witnessed around various internet sites too that clonex rooting is very aggressive and there comes roots like maggots!:yesnod:

I will post more information how fast another cuttings has develop roots after clonex and callousing.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: intelligentlife]
    #18608706 - 07/25/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Who needs rooting hormone?


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18608962 - 07/25/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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nicechrisman said:
Who needs rooting hormone?




Someone who want to speed things up?:awesome:


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: intelligentlife]
    #18609728 - 07/25/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I have thought about rooting hormone before. I came to the conclusion that I would never put rooting gel on my cacti cuts. Even if they were callused.
I would, however, put a mixture of sulphur powder and rooting powder onto fresh cuts. I plan to do some experiments with this sometime.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: Big L]
    #18611185 - 07/25/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Big L said:
I have thought about rooting hormone before. I came to the conclusion that I would never put rooting gel on my cacti cuts. Even if they were callused.
I would, however, put a mixture of sulphur powder and rooting powder onto fresh cuts. I plan to do some experiments with this sometime.




I tried to mix rooting hormone and sulphur, bad result for some reason.

Rooting gel with small amounts to few days calloused part seems to be best.

I don't know what went wrong but with sulphur and rooting hormone result was dying tissue.

I realize that best is not to use to much of rooting gel and use it only for few days calloused part, seems to work nice for me. Even one thin cutting died. Actually it was the cutting where I used sulphur and rooting hormone together to fresh cut. Result is rotting cactus log what I throw away.

I have heard bad and good results of Clonex and trichos, seems small sections and too much clonex can kill the cactus or something is there what is wrong. However, I have now used as I said as small amount as possible the clonex and not in to fresh cut and not in to skin of cactus, seems to work best for me. I can give more information when rest of cuttings show signs of rooting. I have one log rooting used some Clonex to it but it's delayed as project cause mail service was somehow delayed and I got rotting and mold growing log. Now it's fine and I wait for roots. :thumbup:

I have also few thinner parts of trichos used clonex but now sown signs of rooting yet. Next week I check situation again. There is very much bad and good experiences with clonex. I have just think can cutting get "overdose" of clonex or not? I have doing very good after I have not used so much clonex, just small amounts to make sure nothing worse happens.

Once I tried in to fresh cut and it seems the cut starts to rot so afterwards I have been careful with it. I have few loph diffusa buttons too rooting used with clonex so I am waiting result with lophophora buttons too.:tongue2:


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: intelligentlife]
    #18613424 - 07/26/13 06:29 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Weird. Have you used just sulphur by itself with no problems?  Do you think it was a combination of the 2 that caused the problems?


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: Big L]
    #18614010 - 07/26/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Big L said:
Weird. Have you used just sulphur by itself with no problems?  Do you think it was a combination of the 2 that caused the problems?




I have not tested so much of this. Hard to say but sulphur only doesn't seems to cause problems. And cause this is happened for me only one time, it's not sure sulphur+clonex is problem.

I have done sulphur and later used clonex and cutting is fine, that mid section cutting what rotted I used sulphur+clonex but it doesn't proof anything yet.:shrug:


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: intelligentlife]
    #18614345 - 07/26/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

:shrug: indeed


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: Big L]
    #18615110 - 07/26/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I have used just rooting powder without any problems on my trichocereus cuttings. Some lopho clones calloused red instead of that offset white color others were not affected. At first I thought it was rot but doesn't seem to be the case although it is pretty strange. A notocactus calloused orange so maybe it alkaloid that caused this :shrug:


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: modern.shaman]
    #18617588 - 07/26/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Been gone on vacation for a few weeks and I love coming back and seeing appreciable growth on my cacti :smile:

I just took a cutting of my T. peruvianus monstrosus x T. bridgesii v. SS02.... took a crest and then a cutting of that crest which I grafted. Hopefully get a few cuttings up to trade or something eventually. It is in the back, with a crested T. pachanoi in the front for comparison.



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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: modern.shaman]
    #18618034 - 07/27/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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modern.shaman said:
I have used just rooting powder without any problems on my trichocereus cuttings. Some lopho clones calloused red instead of that offset white color others were not affected. At first I thought it was rot but doesn't seem to be the case although it is pretty strange. A notocactus calloused orange so maybe it alkaloid that caused this :shrug:




I have seen color changes on loph buttons too. Some of them have cut surface and some of not but however with clonex gel when it dries, there comes that pink color what the gel have.

I find out that loph diffusa buttons cut surface turns red with clonex. Maybe later I know how does it effect on rooting speed. Maybe alkaloid content is one reason why rooting hormones cause color change in tissue?


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: intelligentlife]
    #18619816 - 07/27/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

San Pedro! (yes etiolation with another is happening, big cutting, small roots, and result)


Another San Pedro!


Peruvian Torch! ...and penis cactus getting naughty on the background there.. uuuuh:heart:


Burn damage! I burned with 400W HPS bulb, cactus in the picture is buy'd as Peruvian Torch!(noone likes dem ugly plantz!:shrug:)


What is real und fake? Where is mein mescaline?

Why I have two completely different san pedro sold as san pedro? FUFUFU!! Nurseriez RIPPIn' the TriPPerZ:shakefist: (seriously I am like -> :yesnod: )

noes.. I love the "san pedro" with randomly long spines with color of honey and peruvianoids where spine colors are deep red :sunny:

Trichos(if below few inches is not count) are size from 11-20inch or something.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: intelligentlife] * 1
    #18643842 - 08/01/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Look at how he is griping the spines.


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: Big L]
    #18644487 - 08/01/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The Trichocereus bridgesii monstrose flowers!!!

zelly from shaman-australis posted this AMAZING photo


Now all the remains to be known is how the offspring come out. :laugh:


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: modern.shaman]
    #18644963 - 08/01/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Oh my god is that legit? i have never seen a TBM flower


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Re: Trichocereus Growers Unite! [Re: modern.shaman] * 1
    #18645035 - 08/01/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Nice. I wish they would let me be a member over there, or just make pics viewable to the public. Anyway.















Then there are these :stingrayed:








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