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Medicinal Mushrooms I
#1322709 - 02/20/03 02:54 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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? Christopher Hobbs L.Ac., A.H.G.
Mushrooms have been valued throughout the world as both food and medicine for thousands of years. Throughout the world, many people enjoy hunting for wild mushrooms, delighting in the variety of shapes, sizes, and colors exhibited by these "flowers of the fall." Europeans have always appreciated the gastronomic value of wild mushrooms. In Japan, pushcart vendors on the streets still sell medicinal mushrooms to the average citizen who uses them to maintain health and promote longevity. Some Japanese people have even been said to travel hundreds of miles in order to collect wild mushrooms that only grow on very old plum trees--such as the Reishi--renowned as a cure for cancer and degenerative diseases. Likewise, for over 3,000 years the Chinese have used and revered many fungi for their health-giving properties, especially tonics for the immune system (Bo and Yun-sun, 1980; Yun-Chang, 1985). To the Yoruba of southwestern Nigeria a number of fungi became an important part of their mythology and medical practice (Oso, 1977).
Mushrooms may also be the perfect food for staying trim and healthy. A recent "letter from the editor" in the Nutrition Action newsletter (September, 1994) from the Center for Science in the Public Interest mentioned that up to 1/3 of the U.S. population are overweight. Because fats occur in mushrooms in minor amounts, especially compared with protein and carbohydrates, and the fatty fraction consists predominantly of unsaturated fatty acids such as linoleic acid, they may be the perfect food for losing weight and maintaining a healthy heart and cardiovascular system.
When it comes to mushrooms, most Americans and inhabitants of the British Isles are rather ignorant. Many people in the United States have a distinct dislike, even a fear, of fungi--a phenomenon that may be called "fungophobia"--a term coined by Hay (1887). Rolfe and Rolfe wrote about the distinctly unsavory view of which the British view mushrooms and mushroom hunters, in their delightful Romance of the Fungus World (1925). Generally, the first association wild mushrooms bring to mind here is "poisonous." The principal edible mushroom most Americans know is the bland Agaricus bisporus (Lange) Sing., or "button mushroom" found in supermarkets. It has little flavor and negligible medicinal value compared with other wild species. In fact, it can even be unhealthful in the sense that it may be heavily sprayed with malathion and other pesticides (many commercially cultivated mushrooms are among the most heavily sprayed items in the vegetable section). The button mushroom may also have cancer-causing properties when eaten continuously, though exactly how potent this effect might be in humans is not clear. See the section on this common mushroom on page xx for further details.
In recent years other cultivated species such as the oyster mushroom and shiitake have begun to appear in markets.
Happily, however, there are signs that these narrow-minded attitudes in the United States and England are changing and catching up with the rest of the world. The spreading popularity of natural foods is one factor that has helped re-awaken interest in mushrooms and mushroom-hunting. Another factor is the recent growth of the mushroom-export business, which has been boosted by troubles in Europe. Due to acid rain, sprawling development, and industrial accidents such as the one at Chernobyl, millions of acres of mushroom habitat in Europe and Russia have been disturbed, and many species of wild mushrooms are becoming scarce (Cherfas, 1991).
Europe imports thousands of pounds of chanterelles and boletus each year. The high price these traditional gastronomic delights bring creates a good supplementary income for knowledgeable gatherers in the United States. Indeed, wild or home cultivation may soon become viable cottage industries in the Pacific Northwest, which has the forest habitats and substantial rainfall needed for such ventures. Cultivation as a home business may be preferable to the recent problems that are surfacing in the Pacific Northwest among professional and itinerant pickers alike--namely squabbling over mushroom patches on public lands. A newspaper article told of teams of professional pickers using walkie-talkies to coordinate harvests and mentioned that they can become upset when other pickers strayed into what they considered their turf. In response to the increased harvesting pressure, quotas were recently set in the Mt. Hood National Forest (McRae, 1993). For books and supplies for the cultivation of edible and medicinal mushrooms, see the appendix.
Finally, Japanese products containing LEM, a polysaccharide-rich extract from the shiitake mushroom and similar extracts from maitake are currently undergoing trials in Japan and the U.S. to test their effectiveness in treating various forms of cancer. They show promise for treating people suffering from various forms of cancer and AIDS and are currently in strong demand in Japan. Commercial shiitake cultivators in the U.S., Canada, and in parts of Asia are decidedly interested in this new potential market and are starting large cultivation efforts, hoping the demand will continue to grow as further scientific studies are conducted. At present, pharmaceutical and nutraceutical products from mushrooms may be worth more than 1.2 billion dollars U.S.
Wei Qi Soup for Building Immune Strength Directions: Fill a pot 2/3 full with purified or spring water, then add:
Astragalus membranaceus (5-7 sticks) Ganoderma lucidum (reishi) (1 medium) any other tonifying mushrooms 2-3 Slightly sprouted beans (1/4-1/2 cup) (aduki, black, etc.) Bring water to boil, simmer for 20 minutes, then add: Organic barley (1/2-1 cup) (choose amount depending on thickness desired) Simmer another 20 minutes, then add favorite vegetables such as: carrots & celery beet tops (or chard, collards, mustard greens, etc.) cabbage potatoes (optional) sea vegetables (nori, kelp, wakame, etc.) gobo (i.e., burdock root) nettles or other wild greens (when available) garlic & onions
Simmer until the vegetables are tender, then add miso and spices such as ginger, celery, or fennel seed. Make enough for a few days and store it in the refrigerator.
Indications and Dosage: During illness, when solid food is not desirable, drink 3-4 cups of the warm broth (add less barley and more water to make broth). For degenerative immune conditions, eat 1-2 small bowls per day, and drink the broth as desired. For autoimmune diseases such as allergies, lupus, diabetes, and hepatitis accompanied by fatigue, weakness, or autoimmune conditions, eat the soup when desired, or drink the broth. This soup can be used upon occasion (1-2 times per week) for general tonification and may help to increase stamina.
Table 1: Sources of Medicinal Fungi Table 2: Use Summary of Major Medicinal Mushrooms: Arranged by Species Table 3: Medicinal Mushroom Uses: Arranged by Symptom or Condition
Resources Fungi Perfecti P.O. Box 7634 Olympia, WA 98507 206 426-9292 Mayway U.S.A. 1338 Cyperus St. Oakland, CA 94607 (510) 208-3113
Chinese herbs in bulk, extracts and other herbal products
RECOMMENDED READING LIST GROWING
Medicinal Mushrooms by Christopher Hobbs Kombucha by Christopher Hobbs Manual on Mushroom Cultivation by Peter Oei. Mushrooms in the Garden by Helmut Steineck. The Shiitake Growers Handbook by P. Przlbylowicz and J. Donoghue. The Mushroom Cultivator by P. Stamets and J. Chilton. Growing Shiitake Mushrooms in a Continental Climate by Mary Ellen Kozak and J. Krawczyk. Cultivating Edible Fungi by P.J. Wuest.
IDENTIFICATION
Mushrooms Demystified by David Arora. All That the Rain Promises and More by David Arora.
PRODUCTS Rainbow Light Herbal Systems Caplets
Reishi Supercomplex Deep Defense Liquid Extracts Deep Defense Medicinal Mushrooms Christopher Hobbs, L.Ac., A.H.G. 6
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: Ripple] 1
#1322858 - 02/20/03 03:59 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Excellent. Reishi = soup base. I was just looking at quart of dried reishi and thinking what will I do with this. There is no way I'm going to drink this much tea.
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: falcon]
#1325852 - 02/22/03 03:47 AM (21 years, 30 days ago) |
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There are many as yet undiscovered properties in fungi of use in medicine.The work with psilocybin in OCD is promising,and anecdotaly I have heard of several other medical uses including my own, controling Atrial Fibrillation. A monthly sub-psychoactive dose controls my condition completly,giving me a steady synchronized atrial/ventrical pulse.This is something medicine can only achieve at present with a dangerous surgery called the MAZE procedure. Other interesting uses for fungal medicines are wound tinctures w/shittake and oyster mushrooms which seem to stimulate healing and prevent infection in dirty wound conditions. I pray that this research continues as these fascinating yet meek allies are amazingly powerful. WR
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: whiterasta] 1
#1325933 - 02/22/03 04:56 AM (21 years, 30 days ago) |
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I take a periodic sub-psychoactive dose of psilocybin to control my problem with alcohol abuse. I still drink recreationally but not the massive amounts I did prior to using psilocybin.
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: Ripple]
#1326374 - 02/22/03 10:03 AM (21 years, 30 days ago) |
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That was really great! Thank you!
Please tell me what book it came from, and I think I will go buy it.
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: whiterasta]
#1326635 - 02/22/03 12:41 PM (21 years, 30 days ago) |
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It has also been used as a very effective treatment for Cluster Headaches. A cripplingly painfull disorder similar to extreme migranes.
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: falcon]
#17933928 - 03/10/13 02:52 PM (11 years, 11 days ago) |
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I'm in dyer need of reishi spores due to the history of cancerous tumors in my family but I have verry little money to get them how do I go about getting some for cheap if you know PM me please and thank you
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FoxFire
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This thread is 10 years old.
You can buy reishi supplements online, or if you want to grow from culture/spores there are lots of vendors that have what you need.
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: FoxFire]
#17972811 - 03/18/13 06:26 AM (11 years, 3 days ago) |
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(I may be a bit off topic and forgive me if i am but it seemed rather ok to post here seeing as how this involved medicinal mushrooms and bad trips from psilocybin) ........I read on another web page online about a possible synergy between reishi mushrooms and psilocybin. I am a regular user of reishi and i enjoy the mysticism of magic m, every now and then, so as to not build a tolerance. Reishi to me has always been extremely helpful when ever i smoke cannabis because i always seem to experience mild paranoia from it. Theres something about reishi that keeps me completely at ease, however, reishi does seems to enhance the OEVS and CEVS that i get from mj even though i feel perfectly calm as mentioned. My question is, would both mushrooms have synergy if taken together? Could this be perhaps a way to prevent a "bad trip" in a way? I am very interested in trying this combo but wanted some feed back from some experienced users first. Anything will be much appreciated thanx!!!
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: Dormamu]
#17974155 - 03/18/13 01:23 PM (11 years, 3 days ago) |
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Idk man. They list it as an antidote to poison mushrooms along with other ganodermas. Sometimes when I trip I get that "I've been poisoned" feeling. Maybe it'd smooth it out...
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Yea maybe it will make the ride a bit easier to handle I will experiment and post if effects are significant.
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: whiterasta]
#27435707 - 08/20/21 08:40 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cluster Headache relief.
https://clusterbusters.org
Suicide or Psychedlics. Bob Wold on Cluster Headacche relief.
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27436014 - 08/20/21 01:41 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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You resurrect an 18 year old thread to post a relatively unrelated video that belongs in a different forum entirely?
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: Forrester]
#27436432 - 08/20/21 07:36 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Forrester said: You resurrect an 18 year old thread to post a relatively unrelated video that belongs in a different forum entirely?
I didn't see the date. I am terrible sorry.
The video was realted to a comment that I thought I saw about the various medical benefits of psychedlics. I used to suffer from these horribly and thanks oo what's described in the video, don't.
I also had major chemo, have chemo brain, and miss stuff from the cognitive destruction.
I am here exploring what medicinal mushrooms I might grow.
Again, sorry. Never mind., I'll just go back to cult.
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27436878 - 08/21/21 06:33 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not a big deal man, I was just joking
The original post I think was about Reishi, but 2 posts later was already off topic, and literally nobody cares if you derail an 18 year old thread anyway
There is a whole forum on Psychedelic Medicine, Research & Microdosing where your video might fit a lot better if you wanna check that out though
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: Forrester]
#27436892 - 08/21/21 06:53 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Forrester said: Not a big deal man, I was just joking
The original post I think was about Reishi, but 2 posts later was already off topic, and literally nobody cares if you derail an 18 year old thread anyway
There is a whole forum on Psychedelic Medicine, Research & Microdosing where your video might fit a lot better if you wanna check that out though
Thanks, Forrester. I am glad you were joking. Sometimes it is really a drag to know what you were capable of and no longer are due to the impact of health vectors. And it took a while not to be a completely annoying noob, of which I tend to be less.
I have been to the Psychedelic Medicine thread. If it pops up in "my threads," I check.
I really am in this thread to learn about Medicinal Mushrooms and the cultivation thereof. Ironically, I have a good distribution channel already in place here and now just have to grow them. About which I now know slightly less than nothing. I am researching first a species that is forgiving and hopefully robust in yields.
Thanks for letting me down off the ledge.
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27437096 - 08/21/21 09:51 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didn't notice the op was so old but I was like wow here's some outdated info and old ass sources...
What kind of medicinals did you want to grow? Reishi is pretty forgiving and I've seen some killer grows come out of monotubs. Lions mane is another that's easy to fruit. Almost any mushroom that grows on a tree has medicinal properties.
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SpaceBaby
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Quote:
deadmandave said: I didn't notice the op was so old but I was like wow here's some outdated info and old ass sources...
What kind of medicinals did you want to grow? Reishi is pretty forgiving and I've seen some killer grows come out of monotubs. Lions mane is another that's easy to fruit. Almost any mushroom that grows on a tree has medicinal properties.
Thanks, I'm looking at reishi's first. My outlet is pretty stoked for it. So that pretty much settles it.
I will start with that. After that gets going Are cordyceps a good idea?
Is Hobbs an old-ass source? Also, my off-topic cluster headache video was made long ago but the info for CH sufferers is current.
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27437343 - 08/21/21 01:37 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll second that reishi is a great one to start with. Even easier to grow and more forgiving than cubes. Cordyceps is doable but I wouldn't start with that one.
Hobbs is a good source, I still consult his book on occasion, although I prefer the Fungal Pharmacy by Robert Rogers, if you want to get more in-depth.
Anyway don't hesitate to start a new thread if you have any questions in your endeavor, we're here to help!
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Re: Medicinal Mushrooms I [Re: Forrester]
#27437716 - 08/21/21 07:37 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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thanks
got that book ordered, too.
Edited by SpaceBaby (08/21/21 09:36 PM)
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