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Offlinemycelial.groove
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Small Experiments that help us grow
    #17967995 - 03/17/13 10:25 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I don't see them often posted, but I'm convinced that there are plenty of scientists out in this community conducting informal experiments of strains, media composition vs. fungal response(growth rates, diffuse vs. rhizomorphic growth, etc.), substrate composition and yield, etc.  Is there any thread or outlet for these people to post these findings to the general benefit of shroomery?  A brief search on the shroomery indicates loads of qualitative results, but I've yet to come across many quantitative empirical (but informal) studies.

I've come across a few such peer reviewed studies by Lomberh 2002 (Studies of Medicinal Mushrooms in Submerged Cultures) and Bilay 2000 (Growth of edible and medicinal mushrooms on commercial agar media), but these are just drops in the bucket. 

Is this something that other members are interested in because I think it would be a great addition to the site.  Then again, perhaps it exists and I've overlooked it entirely.  Thanks.


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Re: Small Experiments that help us grow [Re: mycelial.groove]
    #17970363 - 03/17/13 06:52 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)


A friend of mine from Mexico did the scientific culturing of P. cubensis on straw substrates for his PHD, although I don't speak Spanish, so I will probably never read it.

On a more positive note, there are a wealth of scientific journals out there that focus exclusively on mycology. To add to this, there are multiple universities pursuing different avenues of mycological discovery all the time. I'm currently trying to manoeuvre myself into position so that I can do something with Antarctic fungi for my undergraduate Honors.

As much as this is a great forum for sharing information and learning how to grow mushrooms from a grass-roots level. Any serious attempt at studying mycology should probably be done through the usual official channels, it takes a lot longer to get there, but the results you produce are usable and can be assumed to be accurate (as opposed to vague anecdotal guidance).

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Re: Small Experiments that help us grow [Re: Nobitte]
    #17986171 - 03/20/13 07:06 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

:popcorn:

Good idea for a thread, Although a lot of the things people find are posted in the specific threads about them... it would be nice to have a thread compiling a lot of the info, though there might already be ones I am unaware of..


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Re: Small Experiments that help us grow [Re: mycelial.groove]
    #18007642 - 03/25/13 08:37 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

As a lab worker, my main problem at home for proper trials is lack of space to do controls & duplicates - I rarely have more than three petris on any one strain and I'm just happy if X grows on a medium of Y+Z - no need to work out the optimum ratio of Y & Z when I just want a few oysters.

With cooperation across several members however you could be onto something - one member could propose an experiment and ask for volunteers to run trials - the reward ( aside from fame and fortune ) would be basically receiving the strains necessary for the trials.

Crossing and selecting might be an ideal thing to look at - assuming someone has the bits and bobs to raise an F1 to fruiting, spores could be distributed and vastly more F2s raised by a collective than a person alone so screening & fixing become a lot easier.

It might not be easy to publish such work in a peer reviewed journal but that doesn't mean the work wouldn't be worth doing, and given 'citizen science' gets a good amount of publicity some journal might just agree to get the work refereed.

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Re: Small Experiments that help us grow [Re: Strata]
    #18069623 - 04/06/13 10:36 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

It's a good idea.  I see the same questions pop up again and again, often just answered by the BS of whoever is currently around.

The problem is that the hobby is really so easy that there's just not much need or benefit to optimization, at least not in the small lab scale sense.


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Re: Small Experiments that help us grow [Re: mycelial.groove]
    #18422355 - 06/15/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I'd participate.  We could create controlled environments and carry out tests from our various locations, following very specific instructions / guidelines from whomever created the test.  There are huge possibilities with this and I'd gladly be a part of a collaboration of hobbyists coming together to try and collect data or even publish findings.

I'm no scientist, but I can definitely infer and observe.

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Re: Small Experiments that help us grow [Re: lavosier]
    #18449444 - 06/20/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, for the sake of god let us start controlled experiments!  :popcorn:  :popcorn:  :protest:  :rabble:

I am a scientist kind of, and will try to contribute as much as i can.


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Re: Small Experiments that help us grow [Re: lavosier]
    #18449457 - 06/20/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I would be glad to do my part also in such experiments!

Very good idea!


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