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OfflineMeph
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How safe are you?
    #1796661 - 08/09/03 09:24 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

This is for illegal plant growers only.

How safe are you? How many people know about your illegal activities? Who is it okay to tell?

Do you rent or own your place? If you rent, does your landlord know you're growing drugs?


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Re: How safe are you? [Re: Meph]
    #1796677 - 08/09/03 09:31 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

i grow at a friend's apt. we never have mushroom shit sent there. his landlord is blissfully unaware (and non-nosey). 5 people know about it, and none of us are talking about it. it's pretty safe.

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Re: How safe are you? [Re: ]
    #1796729 - 08/09/03 09:52 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: How safe are you? [Re: Meph]
    #1796895 - 08/09/03 11:05 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

It's best not to tell anybody what you are doing. It is inevitable that a few close associates are going to know, but these should only people you know real well, and trust to keep their big mouths shut.

The problem is, that every person who knows you are doing something illegal, is a potential leak to many, many, other people. It can become a geometric progression where you tell 2 friends, and those 2 each tell 2 friends, and those 4 each tell two friends, and those 8 each tell... well you get the idea...

It's also a good idea to learn how to keep yourself in check. Watch the abuse of certain kinds of "truth" drugs that stroke your ego, and cause you to shoot off your big mouth. Learn how to maintain silence on drugs like alcohol, cocaine, opiates, etc...

Loose Lips Sink Ships!?

Oh, and, "Pride goeth before the fall!" So don't get full of yourself, and start bragging to other people, or showing off you grow op. As natural and tempting as that behavior is, it has led to the downfall of many people...


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Re: How safe are you? [Re: Papaver]
    #1797429 - 08/10/03 04:25 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

If you're talking shroom grows here folks, then I can't for the life of me see how you can get busted?

Shroom grows don't chew lots of kw's or pump noise with extraction/intake & water trickling non-stop, nor bang out odour galore...requiring a carbon scrubber and finally, the wastes of a shroom grow op can be composted. Compare that to rockwool-slabs/expanded-clay in an on-going manner -- as is often the case in many inert media hydro Canna-grows. Go coir media, NFT or aeroponics if you want to avoid that.



Yonder a few rubber maids for shrooms, even a whole room rigged for shrooms on commercial scale would be super discreet compared to the energy hungry, potential light leaking poltergeist...of the Canna-grow. If you can pull off a mull grow & stay under the radar...then a shroom stealth will be a walk in the park IMO.

Tell no one. Don't talk drugs on the phone. Be polite to your neighbours. Don't have people over to the grow. No one is to ever see it. It will be your secret only. Never share that secret and you'll go years until you get bored and cease.

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It is inevitable that a few close associates are going to know, but these should only people you know real well, and trust to keep their big mouths shut.





Papaver, I can honestly say there will be a fuck up of epic proportion if even one (1) person knows. Police are one thing, home invasion is quite another.

YOU TELL NO ONE.


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OfflineTheHobbit
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Re: How safe are you? [Re: Starter]
    #1798179 - 08/10/03 01:02 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Really, I think safeguarding oneself in regards to internet connectivity is one of the primary concerns, along with keeping info within the parameters of one's skull...beyond that you're golden.

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Re: How safe are you? [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1803395 - 08/11/03 08:58 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Most people tell thier friends thinking "I can trust them." If you can't trust yourself to keep your lips shut, you can't trust anyone else.

They might only tell people they trust too, and so on and so forth. Keep it to yourself.


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Re: How safe are you? [Re: tak]
    #1804841 - 08/12/03 07:11 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

A little advice, don't tell anyone (even folks here in this community) that you grow, let alone where you grow :smile: 

Examples from above posts:

i  grow at a friend's apt
I have a small grow op in my room that i rent out.

Talk in the third person at least. 

Meph, I know what you're trying to ask, but try not to ask such incriminating questions ok.

I'll let this one slide, but next time you ask something like this, the thread will be closed.

Lana
 


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Re: How safe are you? [Re: Lana]
    #1805904 - 08/12/03 01:51 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for understanding. You know I'm not a narc...  :smirk:


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Re: How safe are you? [Re: Lana]
    #1806089 - 08/12/03 02:37 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Lana's advice is good, but it got me to thinking...

A lot of people have alter egos when online. I have read stories about people pretending to be what they are not... having several online accounts, etc.... (I am speaking of places other than the shroomery... in general). With this in mind, how much probable cause does something a persona post really create?

For example:

I left myself logged in and somebody else in the library must have typed that...
I just play a drug fiend online... in real life I am a 'good' person...
Everybody online exagerates... even me... what do you mean by 'search warrant?'...

etc...

Not that I want to test the system... better to be safe than sorry. This will eventually come up in the court system if it hasn't already.


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Re: How safe are you? [Re: Seuss]
    #1806742 - 08/12/03 05:30 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

There are flaws, but nothing works the way it should. Dont give cops any reason to bust you. If they kick your door down, find a grow op, and in court you say "but they only caught me because i said it online, and i was uh lying..i just happend to have a grow going on at the same time" ... cops will get anything on you they can, dont let them.


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Re: How safe are you? [Re: tak]
    #1811885 - 08/13/03 11:42 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

If cops bust in i'll pick up my plant and say fuck you there are under 14g's of bud on here and if theres more the rest belongs to my roomates (spread evenly to 14gs a piece). They can't say boo.

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Re: How safe are you? [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #1811950 - 08/14/03 12:01 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Irradiated, I've heard from busted people in Overgrow (Americans) that their cops water the pots before they pull the plants out, then weigh them...lumber, wet leaf, wet bud and heavy sludge muddy potting media. Hardly fair at all.

Though one of my mates who was busted basically had the case thrown out because his defense argued that the police failed to get a botanist to confirm the plant material (he had a lot of dried lb's of bud and plants on the go) as actual Cannabis. The cops had of course destroyed the evidence LOL. So he was only charged on cultivation (not specifcally the numbers of plants he was growing and no pocession) which ended up only a slap on the wrist for a significant commercial grow LOL. That was in South Australia. It's still the biggest hydro growing state in Oz. You gotta love sloppy cop work v's a good defense.

Of all the Aussie busts for Cannabis I've heard of, not one has had their PC taken by the cops. It's obviously a different caper in the US. No wonder yall peak there. I wouldn't do what I do if I lived there.


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Re: How safe are you? [Re: Starter]
    #1812395 - 08/14/03 03:27 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

The question is how are you a hazard if your in a fake reality.

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Re: How safe are you? [Re: Starter]
    #1812612 - 08/14/03 06:21 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

> I've heard from busted people in Overgrow (Americans) that their cops water the pots before they pull the plants out, then weigh them...lumber, wet leaf, wet bud and heavy sludge muddy potting media.

This wouldn't surprise me, but I doubt they go to the effort. The last time I checked, the courts in the US assumed 1lb of product per plant (for sentence guidlines) regardless of the plant size, health, sex, or anything else. You would have five male seedlings and they would put you away for the same time as if you had 5 lbs of bud packaged and ready to deliver. I doubt things have changed.


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Re: How safe are you? [Re: Seuss]
    #1813003 - 08/14/03 09:54 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Well I'm in Canada and I'm allowed to have 14gs on my person, they can try and give me a fine but that will likely get tossed out.

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Re: How safe are you? [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #1816437 - 08/15/03 09:01 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, shroom growing is really safe, you don't give off any telltale signs. Even withweed, you can really take care of yourself with 1000 watts, which isn't very noticeable, and the deodorizing agent available now really takes care of the smell. Controlling the flow of information is most important, I think.

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Re: How safe are you? [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1817230 - 08/15/03 02:17 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

unfortunely alot of people know that i grow shrooms, luckily there isnt anything shroom related in my house besides shroomery.org on my internet history

i fucking hate people and the way they always seem to want to talk talk talk talk and tell people shit....they always gotta say "shrooms? oh my friend ******* grows shrooms"

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Re: How safe are you? [Re: liftedoff420]
    #1829435 - 08/19/03 11:42 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Wouldn't also depend of what you grow? Like with peyote, most cops probably can't even tell the difference between L. williamsii and L. diffusa. You can grow poppies, but if the police see razor marks on the pods, your in deep doodoo. The amount you grow can matter as well. If you only have one female Ganja plant, instead of say, 20, you probably won't get in as much trouble.
The big thing is, don't tell a lot of people. First of all, you don't know who will blab to their other friends, who will blab to their friends, etc.
Second of all, you don't want anybody coming and stealing your grow.


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Re: How safe are you? [Re: Funguy]
    #1832097 - 08/20/03 01:16 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Even better yet... don't tell ANYONE


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