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InvisibleDazedSol
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Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings.(update: roots!)
    #1795095 - 08/09/03 01:10 PM (14 years, 17 days ago)

I will keep this updated as the plants root.

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Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings.

8-9-2003
Two cuttings were taken. One was cut above the node and one was cut below. The cuttings were between 5 and 6 inches tall and consisted of at least 5 growth nodes.

A-1


A-2


Picture a-1 shows where the cut will be made(below node).
Picture a-2 shows a cutting was taken from this plant above the node.


The cuttings were placed in a 1000ml flask to root. An airstone and Thiram(rooting hormone) were added. The water was regular tap water with the addition of 2ml De-Chlor(aquarium water conditioner)

A-3


pic a-3 shows the 1000ml flask with air stone. A lettuce opium cutting is in the cup in the background.

The amount of Thiram added is shown in the picture below(a-4). This amount was mixed with 250ml of the de chlorinated tap water, and about 100ml of this solution was added to the flask.

A-4


The cuttings are submerged into the water a little more than one inch. This is shown in the picture below(A-5) Note that all leaves have been removed from the bottom 3 inches of the cutting.

A-5



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Edited by DazedSol (08/19/03 03:24 PM)


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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: DazedSol]
    #1795167 - 08/09/03 01:48 PM (14 years, 17 days ago)

Wow! Very cool indeed.
Good job, thanks for that.  :thumbup: :heart: :smile2:


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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: Effed]
    #1795253 - 08/09/03 02:21 PM (14 years, 17 days ago)

OMG, YOU ARE MAKING METH!!!


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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: downforpot]
    #1795311 - 08/09/03 02:58 PM (14 years, 17 days ago)

Lol..........nope none of that crap here...


My hypothesis: That taking cuttings from above growth nodes is more beneficial than below, both for the mother and the clone.

Why? Well because your left with a node on your mother plant that should produce more growth than if it was node-less and that the cutting should produce roots just as quickly as the one with the node.....

We shall see :laugh: 


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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: DazedSol]
    #1795533 - 08/09/03 04:23 PM (14 years, 17 days ago)

Different cutting habits would not need consider leaving or not leaving nodes.

You should take cuttings from plants that are large enough to prevent worrying about leaving growth nodes. Also taking cuttings will cause axillary bud growth from nodes with leaves on them already.

You can get roots from your cutting that doesn't have a submerged node, but you'll have better results submerging the node, it's not recommended to try and force root buds from mid stalk with no node.


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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: neuro]
    #1795585 - 08/09/03 04:41 PM (14 years, 17 days ago)

  Yes i agree cuttings should be only taken from larger plants that will be able to handle part of it being removed........basically i was just nit picking when i wrote about mother plant growth above...of course taking cuttings will stimulate bud growth on the other plants nodes.....but

I was always taught to take cuttings above nodes(i will be looking into this....im always hearing conflicting info pertaining to this subject)

I dont really think the results will vary that much(as in root buds from the node or from the nodeless stalk......

Are you saying that the one forced to root from the nodeless stalk will somehow be inferior or weaker than the one with a node?

If thats the case,in the long run, wouldnt the plant that was forced to root from stalk catch up to the one rooted from the node....plus the mother plant would still have the node on top, continue growing from plus have her other nodes stimulated into more growth(nit picking more :smile: )........

 


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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: DazedSol]
    #1795692 - 08/09/03 05:09 PM (14 years, 17 days ago)

>>Are you saying that the one forced to root from the nodeless stalk will somehow be inferior or weaker than the one with a node?

Sorta, It'll take a hell of a lot longer to force root buds if it even does. Though if it does force buds and does survive then i suspect your thoughts will be right, in the long run it'll be fine.

In any of the classes I've taken when rooting speciments, a bare scraped node must always be included in the rooting dip. I have never bothered trying this experiment though, or take cuttings any other way.


So what if she has one extra node? I guess i'm thinking pragmatically here, but one extra node isn't going to be that big of a difference. You sure are a nit picker.


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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: neuro]
    #1797628 - 08/10/03 10:14 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Does the airation of the water really aid in rooting?


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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: MindTrap]
    #1797746 - 08/10/03 11:34 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

If it does aid that much you can put some hydrogen pyroxide in soil to get a similar effect, it doesnt hurt the plant either.


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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: MindTrap]
    #1797794 - 08/10/03 12:07 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Yes roots require O2 as they do not photosynthesize they're method of growth is aerobic respiration, that's why perlite in the soil helps keep the soil from packing down and keeps it aerated. And that's also why people use air stones in the water. However I just use a jar of water with some hormone in it and don't bother with the air stones.


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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: neuro]
    #1801196 - 08/11/03 12:02 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

Salvia Divinorum roots with very little help, no need for hormones or bubblers, just a nice clean glass of water in a humid environment. But of course is always good to experiment, but don?t worry if you don?t have hormones, bubblers because they are not needed. Nice experiment by the way.

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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: SalviaEngland]
    #1801505 - 08/11/03 01:58 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

Hi all-
in my experience, adding 3% H2O2 directly to soil medium causes severe problems for the plant. As in SAYONARA SALVIA! Been there, done that.
Next, Thiram (thiuramdisulfide) is an antifungal, and has no root-stimulating properties. Look for indoleacetic acid, indolebutyric acid, and napthaleneacetic acid. Typically,
Thiram is a constituent of Rootone powdered products.
Another good system is Dip N Grow, which utilizes a base of denatured ethanol and has as rooting hormones IBA and NAA. DNG comes as a concentrate, to be diluted according to the cutting type. Salvia would prolly do with a 15-20X dilution with DNG, depending on the degree of lignification present in the stock.
I have also found that "Hofmann-Wasser" clones adapt much more quickly than "Baca" clones, which require more humidity and are very prone to insect problems. "Baca" clones , however, are from a seed-grown strain and, under optimum conditions, yield significantly more potent leaves. PM for details on "Baca" strain.
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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: catfish]
    #1802408 - 08/11/03 05:57 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

I'm interested in this "baca" strain you mentioned. Is there a cutting supplier online?


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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: MindTrap]
    #1802410 - 08/11/03 05:58 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

Oops. I'll PM you.


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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: DazedSol]
    #1829851 - 08/19/03 03:23 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)



Well we have roots now :smile:

Looks like the one with out a node popped out more roots than the one with a node......

Click to see full size....


I'll snap a better pic later when i have more time....


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Re: Rooting Salvia divinorum cuttings..... [Re: DazedSol]
    #1830229 - 08/19/03 04:55 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Interesting results  :thumbup:


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