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OfflineCrystal G
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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #20632520 - 09/28/14 07:48 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I sent the letter to his mom, and she sent the message to one of her daughter's friends on Facebook, and now the letter I wrote is posted on her Facebook page from this guy.

I'm excited to see how this is going to turn out. :awesome:

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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Crystal G]
    #20632565 - 09/28/14 07:58 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

the damage has been done tho.. but i guess its good that the mom isnt alone


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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: zZZz]
    #20632602 - 09/28/14 08:06 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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the damage has been done tho.. but i guess its good that the mom isnt alone




What's scary is when I called her, she said that I was like the TENTH person to call her to give all sorts of tips and information about this guy. Which is good news to hear, now that I know that he blabs his mouth to everybody, the letter likely won't get traced back to me.

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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Crystal G] * 2
    #20644711 - 10/01/14 03:22 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

LOL at the people who said this shit was none of your business. We all have to live in the same world, so why not do what you can to prevent it from getting fucked up any further. Even though you're removed from the situation, and its effects on your life are pretty abstract, now you've got to live in a world that's a little more fucked up than it could have been. I'm glad you can own up to that.

Don't kick yourself over this little fuckup; instead you should let it add to your resolve not to fuck up again. Now you know what happens when you complacently allow bad things to happen. It's a bummer your friends could only offer you short-sighted, selfish, and cowardly advice. Sometimes you've got to follow your gut even if common sense and public opinion make it seem like a bad idea. That's what character and integrity are good for: questioning the status quo when it needs to be questioned even though it's hard.

At least now you've got some insight into what happens when you puss out because it's hard to maintain integrity in the face of social pressure and the self doubt it creates. Next time you've got a similar dilemma, I hope you'll get to weigh the outcomes of your options with more confidence in your own sense of what's right and worthwhile.

The really fucked up part about all this is that even if you would have stuck to your guns and tipped her off, you probably wouldn't have saved her very much grief, and you never would have noticed the little good that you created. It's way easier to notice the bad stuff that happens, so the real heroes, the ones who stop bad stuff before it happens, never get any appreciation or recognition. And when unsung heroes don't save the day, it looks like bad things happen for no reason, and like nothing could have been done to prevent them from happening. That fallacy makes the world a shittier place.

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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #20645472 - 10/01/14 06:12 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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LOL at the people who said this shit was none of your business. We all have to live in the same world, so why not do what you can to prevent it from getting fucked up any further. Even though you're removed from the situation, and its effects on your life are pretty abstract, now you've got to live in a world that's a little more fucked up than it could have been. I'm glad you can own up to that.

Don't kick yourself over this little fuckup; instead you should let it add to your resolve not to fuck up again. Now you know what happens when you complacently allow bad things to happen. It's a bummer your friends could only offer you short-sighted, selfish, and cowardly advice. Sometimes you've got to follow your gut even if common sense and public opinion make it seem like a bad idea. That's what character and integrity are good for: questioning the status quo when it needs to be questioned even though it's hard.




Yeah, everybody kept telling me not to, and the only two things that prevented me were 2 feasible possibilities:
1) What if it comes back to me and he finds out that I was the one that tipped her off? Not enough time had passed since the last contact I had with him, so he could have easily figured out that I was the one who sent him the letter.
2) What if he really had changed and become a better person? After all, I hadn't had any contact with him in a while, and it seemed he truly was in "love," or rather, mentally obsessed about her, so it was perhaps a possibility. And I didn't want to ruin something good for him if he had ACTUALLY changed.

But, according to her mother, when I spoke to her on the phone, he is up to his same old tricks again. Her mother told me that they were both recently arrested for heroin possession, and that when she was trying to get sober the first thing he did was inject her with heroin again so he could continue manipulating her. Her original plan was to leave the state to live with her father to get sober.

She said that her daughter was 6 months pregnant with his baby when he started injecting her with heroin, and that is what caused her to miscarry in the toilet.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he beats her, her mom said that he beats her.

So, her mother, being absolutely furious and not wanting to support their lifestyle, has apparently decided to take back her daughter's business, since the business was technically in her name. She said when she took back the business, she found TONS of heroin needles, and the place was so fucked up and damaged she could barely resell it for a fraction of the original price.

So now, they (the personal trainer and his girlfriend) have no income, are high on heroin, and they are both currently homeless.

Her mom has posted TONS of stuff on her and her boyfriend's Facebook page:

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We are all trying to save her from this MONSTER who got her addicted to heroin, beats her and who knows what else. (name edited out) will die soon from a heroin overdose. (name edited out) is not the first victim he has done the same thing to two other women and this is coming from his own family and friends.




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(personal trainer) injected (name edited out) with Heroin while she was passed out drunk. (name edited out) had a home, a thriving business, Family, Beauty, Money, Friends, and security. This man took that all from her and now her clean record. This man wants her to rely only on him and nobody but him. He is a sick sick man. The family tried desperately to save her while he was incarcerated but we could not get her out of state fast enough. The first thing this man did while she was getting sober is to inject her yet again with heroin. She is now homeless, lost her business, and dogs. Her family is here when she is ready to get clean but she has to never talk or see (personal trainer) again. Please pray for her.




Several other people have chimed in their comments:

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theres a special place in hell for fucks like you. fuckin pussy.




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Scum




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What a little fucking bitch




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you're a piece of shit.




Here's how fucked up this guy is. He doesn't delete ANY of these comments that are posted on his page. They've been posted up for DAYS, in fact over a week now. Instead, he gets a thrill off it, like he's one of those sick people that feels powerful by making other people miserable. So instead what he does, is he reacts by blasting his Facebook status with pictures of the two of them together kissing, or the picture of him proposing to her as his profile picture.

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The really fucked up part about all this is that even if you would have stuck to your guns and tipped her off, you probably wouldn't have saved her very much grief, and you never would have noticed the little good that you created. It's way easier to notice the bad stuff that happens, so the real heroes, the ones who stop bad stuff before it happens, never get any appreciation or recognition. And when unsung heroes don't save the day, it looks like bad things happen for no reason, and like nothing could have been done to prevent them from happening. That fallacy makes the world a shittier place.




Yeah, that's the other thing. I think even if I had tipped her off early, I'm not so sure she might not have believed me, because the letter was written anonymously. But at least if I had sent it then, she was still sober, so she may have taken the action I encouraged her to do, which was to conduct a background check on him.

I actually have a feeling my old personal trainer still knows it was me who sent the letter, since I noticed after the letter was posted on his girlfriend's page, he had unfriended me on Facebook. If I know him at all, he probably told his girlfriend that I'm some "jealous ex" that is making up lies about him to tear them apart. According to her mom, he apparently has made up all sorts of bullshit to her about why his credit was bad, such as his "identity was stolen."

And to the poster that said that everybody has a responsibility for their own actions (referring to his girl choosing to use heroin). That might be true to an extent, but I also know how manipulative and pushy he can be. He has a way of "forcing" people to do things that he wants. And people who are pushovers, or don't have a backbone, or people who don't have street smarts, or people who want to avoid conflict will do whatever he says.

Because if you don't do it, he WILL create conflict with you, and act extremely intimidating and threatening. You have to essentially fight him (either verbally or physically) to avoid doing what he wants you to do (and I've had to have many, many fights with him from personal experience, simply because I refused to do what he wanted me to do). I mean, come on, he was a personal trainer! His entire JOB was yelling at people, and forcing people to do shit they didn't want to do.

It is also incredibly easy to manipulate people who are high on heroin. Why do you think all those pimps have street prostitutes who are high on drugs? Because they're a lot easier to manipulate when they are addicted to drugs, and you are their primary source of acquiring that drug.

The other thing is, that when you're high on heroin, you truly believe that you're in love. It creates a false illusion of love, and the entire world around you appears so romantic, even in the most dire garbage circumstances. So I can easily see how she could be manipulated into thinking that they are truly in love, enough to even buy a motorcycle for him (something which he has convinced all his girlfriends to do). Some of his exes are paying off debts to this day due to havoc he has wreaked in their life.

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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #20645671 - 10/01/14 07:02 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Can someone post a summarized bullet point time line of what the fuck just happened. threesome turns into some weird ass heroin-pumper-miscarriage-what-if story

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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #20645857 - 10/01/14 07:51 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Can someone post a summarized bullet point time line of what the fuck just happened. threesome turns into some weird ass heroin-pumper-miscarriage-what-if story




3some
with trainer and his friend
turns out trainer is sociopath
manipulative miserable controlling lowlife
CG feels bad for some new chick he's into
debates writing letter
new chick gets preggo
trainer ends baby and ruins new chick
cg sends letter

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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: memes]
    #20646211 - 10/01/14 09:00 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I've been here since page 1 that sounds about right.


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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Crystal G] * 2
    #20646548 - 10/01/14 10:00 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Not for nothin' dude, but it sounds like this girl's mom is one of those assholes who refuses to accept that their child wants to do drugs and made choices that led them into addiction.  I cannot believe that this guy is 100% to blame for the girl being a junkie.  Sure, she might not have become addicted to dope if she didn't get involved with him, but she made the choices.  :shrug:

LOL, I've been dumped by girls in the past who found out about my drug habits.  I've had girls use dope with me.  It's about the choices, Crystal G.  This mom irks me a bit.

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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #20646556 - 10/01/14 10:02 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I agree and was having the same thoughts. Manipulation aside. We still make choices. She was leaving to get sober so obviously she had a drug problem before.


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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Crystal G]
    #20647010 - 10/02/14 12:14 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I am glad you didn't send the letter a while ago CG.  It wouldn't have done anything to help the situation; it only would put you in danger.

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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #20647089 - 10/02/14 12:47 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Crstyal G. I need a nice sugar momma to support me. I'll cook, clean and provide sexual services to you.

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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #20647129 - 10/02/14 01:13 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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She was leaving to get sober so obviously she had a drug problem before.




No, she was going to get sober after she had gotten arrested, and apparently bailed herself out earlier than they let her boyfriend trainer out so she could fly to some other state to be live with her father and get sober. I'm guessing while sobering up in jail, she snapped awake from her haze at some point and thought, "Holy shit, WTF am I doing with this guy?"

Also, you guys are completely missing the point. Whether she chose the do the drugs willingly or not is not the issue. The drugs are only like a teensy, tiny fraction of the problem. 

The heroin was simply a catalyst, a tool that he used to intentionally make her submissive to him. Once you become an addict, and your only source of procuring that drug is your boyfriend, you are going to stay with him no matter that. (And BTW, re-introducing heroin to somebody who has only been sober for it from 3 days after being in jail, is like dangling BBQ ribs in front of a starving Ethiopian--I'm sure there is somebody out there who has really strong will and determination who will refuse it, but the fact of the matter is, that person's mindset in that phase is STARVING and CRAVING).

The REAL issue here, is that this guy is a career criminal whose "profession" is stealing money from people. He has stolen tens of thousands of dollars from every single person he has ever been close to, including all his ex girlfriends, and even his own family and his own grandma. He tried to steal the business from his current girlfriend and her mom. He used her credit cards to buy himself a motorcycle, and she's going to be paying debts off for a long time because of this asshole, just like all his other girlfriends in the past.

I mean, come on, his first "real job" that he ever had was when he was 29 years old, and he was working for maybe 3 hours a day as a personal trainer.

This guy also has a 9 year old kid he has never even seen once or paid child support to. Even dumped his girlfriend the second she found out he was pregnant because he "didn't find her attractive enough." (That is actually a word for word quote) Yet he he planned on intentionally getting this new girlfriend pregnant within like a month of dating each other (and he succeeded) because he wanted to be financially tied to this family somehow.

This is his only way of "making it rich," is by stealing from people that he is close to. He even stole from his best friend and his mom--to this day, I have no idea why this guy remains best friends and loyal to my trainer to this day and age. I'm telling you, he knows how to manipulate people and use them. He's like a real Charles Manson. He has been in and out of prison for his entire life, and he is not just some petty, harmless drug user, he has been incarcerated for many violent crimes involving guns and shootings as well.

I also know for a fact this guy is a born sociopath. He is the only born sociopath I've ever met in my entire life. Normally petty criminals and junkies are just people with bad qualities, but no this guy, he just radiates and OOZES this aura about him. The biggest clue is the fact that EVERYBODY who has met this guy has automatically felt a strong sense of discomfort and uneasiness around him.

Every single one of my roommates, even people who have only met him for a few minutes and don't know anything about him, have said that they felt the hairs standing up on their necks when they met him. A tenant of my old house actually once said, "Never bring that guy over again. I don't trust that guy." And he didn't even know a fucking thing about him!

Even when my mom met him, the first thing she whispered in my ear was, "Don't let him upstairs." She had NEVER said that about any of my other friends I had introduced to her ever. People can just automatically feel that something is "off" with this guy from the moment they meet him, that's how bad it is.

Her mom irks me too, but for different reasons. Keeps re-iterating how her daughter had "money" and "beauty" before this guy, as if these were real values at all.

I think deep down her mother knows her daughter has consensually used the drugs, but the drugs are really only a tiny fraction of the problem. I think deep down, she is pissed the hell off at her daughter for being so naive and allowing her boyfriend to take her business and use her for money. Keeps telling her to "WAKE THE FUCK UP" and is yelling at her all over Facebook. This whole shit is a mess.

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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #20647130 - 10/02/14 01:15 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Not for nothin' dude, but it sounds like this girl's mom is one of those assholes who refuses to accept that their child wants to do drugs and made choices that led them into addiction.  I cannot believe that this guy is 100% to blame for the girl being a junkie.  Sure, she might not have become addicted to dope if she didn't get involved with him, but she made the choices.  :shrug:

LOL, I've been dumped by girls in the past who found out about my drug habits.  I've had girls use dope with me.  It's about the choices, Crystal G.  This mom irks me a bit.





This is exactly what I was thinking. The bit about him injecting her with heroin while she was passed out sounds really fishy to me. Even if he did it once, if she continued to do it then she chose to do so. He might be a scumbag but there's gotta be some individual accountability.


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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Crystal G]
    #20647132 - 10/02/14 01:15 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Man why are girls always ignoring me?

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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: keyohnah]
    #20647141 - 10/02/14 01:20 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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This is exactly what I was thinking. The bit about him injecting her with heroin while she was passed out sounds really fishy to me. Even if he did it once, if she continued to do it then she chose to do so. He might be a scumbag but there's gotta be some individual accountability.




Again, the drugs are only a MICROCOSM of what is really wrong with this guy. Even BEFORE the drugs, I was planning on sending the letter.

My personal trainer had been sober from all drugs for 2 years when I knew him, and since he was embracing sobriety so much at the time that I knew him, I had no idea he was going to introduce his girlfriend to drugs. But even BEFORE all that shit happened, I STILL had a letter typed out warning her about how evil this guy is.

That's what I mean. The drugs are the tiniest part of the problem that is wrong with this guy. There is so much other shit that I could have said about this guy, even WITHOUT the drug factor at all.

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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Crystal G] * 2
    #20647294 - 10/02/14 02:24 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I think you're missing the point.  We aren't responding to what you're saying; we're responding to what this girl's mom is saying.  IMO, everyone involved sounds trashy and idiotic.

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    #20647298 - 10/02/14 02:26 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Crstyal G. I need a nice sugar momma to support me. I'll cook, clean and provide sexual services to you.




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Man why are girls always ignoring me?



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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #20647343 - 10/02/14 02:57 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

No one asked you Burke.

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Re: Threesome with My Personal Trainer and His Best Friend (Pictures!) [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #20647377 - 10/02/14 03:34 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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I think you're missing the point.  We aren't responding to what you're saying; we're responding to what this girl's mom is saying.  IMO, everyone involved sounds trashy and idiotic.




maybe he really is injecting this girl without her knowledge, or maybe he's pushing it to the point where she has no choice. i've seen it in movies before where these pimps forcefully inject this one prostitute with heroin to keep them addicted just so they dont run off.

i mean just because you cant imagine it happening doesnt mean it cant or it isnt happening.


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