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Should an 8th have done more to me?
    #17940798 - 03/11/13 08:19 PM (11 years, 20 days ago)

So I recently consumed 1/8th of golden teachers and from all the stories I read on here i was expecting to reach level 4 or 3. I ate them and felt the usual high/drunk feeling then started to see slight visuals and breathing but it never went past that i'd say i sat at a level 2 when I peaked. Anyone know why i had such a low trip on an 1/8th of good shrooms. Oh also my friend at a half eighth of the same shrooms and said he tripped almost to level 3.


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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: tokacola]
    #17940826 - 03/11/13 08:25 PM (11 years, 20 days ago)

The  "levels" thing is so hard to go by. What you consider a level 2 may be what he considers a Level 3. I personally think an Eighth should have had you feeling very nice, if they were good Shrooms. I've had eighths kick my ass, no joke. If you plan on ingesting the same ones maybe go for 4-5 grams?

Wait two weeks or more though, tolerance will not help this situation at all for you. :thumbup:

Keep expectations away, they will absolutely 100% affect the trip. I like to dose and then completely take my mind off it, do something I enjoy, to try to forget I even took something. Although I can never completely do it, it always helps and I usually enter the trip best this way, rather than thinking and wondering when I'm gonna peak.

People are all different, your body may have a slightly higher tolerance to it, or again, maybe your friend just thought more of the small experience he had. Again, expectations are key

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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #17940847 - 03/11/13 08:31 PM (11 years, 20 days ago)

I recently did 3.2 grams of "golden teachers" in tea... Saw grid patterns on everything, rivers flowing in my hardwood floors, watched my face melt and pixellate in the mirror, etc etc.... Like they say, cubes are cubes, and if they're grown from multi-spore its a shot in the dark...

And potency depends on a lot of variables..


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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #17940903 - 03/11/13 08:44 PM (11 years, 20 days ago)

thats really good advice. My expectations did play a big part. I'll try 7gs next time because what i really want is to break through.


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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: tokacola]
    #17940927 - 03/11/13 08:49 PM (11 years, 20 days ago)

Careful, 7 grams is heavy man. I understand though, my first experience was with 7 grams, well my first real experience anyway, half eighths were okay, but not an experience at all. I said fuck it, and did what you want to do, I loved it so I can't say much.:lol:

But be careful man, make sure you're in the right state of mind and in a good setting, and you should really enjoy it. I still say go for 5 first, 5 is intense, but is a great dose in my opinion. But you will do what you feel regardless, just keep in mind to do it responsibly.

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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #17940939 - 03/11/13 08:50 PM (11 years, 20 days ago)

haha yea i was originally thinking of doing 7gs of penis envy :eek: but that might be a little overboard


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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: tokacola]
    #17941041 - 03/11/13 09:09 PM (11 years, 20 days ago)

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haha yea i was originally thinking of doing 7gs of penis envy :eek: but that might be a little overboard




Yeah don't make that mistake. Almost did that with acid. Was getting weak acid and thinking I was the shit and could handle psychedelics. Was gearing up to take five, but all my friends wanted three so I figured I would gear it down so we were all on the same level. Those were the 3 strongest hits me or my friends have encountered. Thank god I didn't take 5 or I would have probably ended up in the police station that day. Even on 3 I was curled up in a chair trying to convince myself that the universe wasn't going to destroy every particle in my body. Of course that was my first true acid trip. I could handle that pretty well after practice  :crazy2: This stuff can get pretty batshit intense.

The reason you didn't trip hard off of "good" shrooms is a) they weren't good shrooms or b) you're on medication. 1/8 of GOOD shrooms can get pretty damn trippy (I actually had the same experience with my first mushroom trip :lol: Was getting weak stuff and thinking I was the shit. Took around 3.8 of these shrooms and spent the next 4 hours in an incoherent mess of fractals, though this time was much more positive). However, I have had some weaker shrooms where even 5 grams didn't take me as far as I was expecting and 3grams was like a buzz with tracers. So my suggestion, either find a new source, or buy more.

But yeah... Just to make this part clear. DO NOT TAKE 7 GRAMS YOUR NEXT ATTEMPT!! If you want to experience a breakthrough mess around with DMT a bit, but 5-6 hours in a headspace that intense is something you need to work up to. Even at half that dose shit can get wild. I can not stress this enough. Everyone things they're a hardass until they get their first psychedelic ass kicking.

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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #17941065 - 03/11/13 09:13 PM (11 years, 20 days ago)

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haha yea i was originally thinking of doing 7gs of penis envy :eek: but that might be a little overboard




Yeah don't make that mistake. Almost did that with acid. Was getting weak acid and thinking I was the shit and could handle psychedelics. Was gearing up to take five, but all my friends wanted three so I figured I would gear it down so we were all on the same level. Those were the 3 strongest hits me or my friends have encountered. Thank god I didn't take 5 or I would have probably ended up in the police station that day. Even on 3 I was curled up in a chair trying to convince myself that the universe wasn't going to destroy every particle in my body. Of course that was my first true acid trip. I could handle that pretty well after practice  :crazy2: This stuff can get pretty batshit intense.

The reason you didn't trip hard off of "good" shrooms is a) they weren't good shrooms or b) you're on medication. 1/8 of GOOD shrooms can get pretty damn trippy (I actually had the same experience with my first mushroom trip :lol: Was getting weak stuff and thinking I was the shit. Took around 3.8 of these shrooms and spent the next 4 hours in an incoherent mess of fractals, though this time was much more positive). However, I have had some weaker shrooms where even 5 grams didn't take me as far as I was expecting and 3grams was like a buzz with tracers. So my suggestion, either find a new source, or buy more.

But yeah... Just to make this part clear. DO NOT TAKE 7 GRAMS YOUR NEXT ATTEMPT!! If you want to experience a breakthrough mess around with DMT a bit, but 5-6 hours in a headspace that intense is something you need to work up to. Even at half that dose shit can get wild. I can not stress this enough. Everyone things they're a hardass until they get their first psychedelic ass kicking.




thanks for the advice haha i wont make the mistake. I have done dmt but i used the ghetto-est pipe ever and burned alot of it. Was an intense fun trip though.


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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: tokacola]
    #17941205 - 03/11/13 09:44 PM (11 years, 20 days ago)

Tripping is weird and yes, expectations do seem to stunt the intensity.

3.5g may be enough one time and not enough on another.

I have the most interesting experiences when I am in a safe yet unfamiliar place. Sharing a trip with other trippers can also enhance the experience. Weed also seems to help me.

Often I bring an extra dose, and once I start to peak, I have the choice to go further.


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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: tokacola]
    #17941264 - 03/11/13 09:56 PM (11 years, 20 days ago)

Doses are different for everyone.

4 grams had my friend looping/rambling like a tweaker about random nonsense for 3 hours while I only had what I'd consider a level 2 trip at the same dose. He pissed in the garage and everything had no idea where/what he was doing. I ended up being the "sober" sitter rofl.

Possibly these shrooms weren't stored properly or maybe you just need to take a Higher Dose :wink:

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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: ILikeACID]
    #17941293 - 03/11/13 10:03 PM (11 years, 20 days ago)

Different people have different tolerances. My wife has no tolerance, mine is the opposite. It makes dosing together interesting. Oddly, cubes trip her hard. Truffles are more of an equalizer for us.


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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: ILikeACID]
    #17944068 - 03/12/13 02:07 PM (11 years, 19 days ago)

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Doses are different for everyone.

4 grams had my friend looping/rambling like a tweaker about random nonsense for 3 hours while I only had what I'd consider a level 2 trip at the same dose. He pissed in the garage and everything had no idea where/what he was doing. I ended up being the "sober" sitter rofl.

Possibly these shrooms weren't stored properly or maybe you just need to take a Higher Dose :wink:



haha wtf? that sounds like some crazy shit. My goal is to break through or just kinda forget who and where i am.


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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: tokacola]
    #17944139 - 03/12/13 02:24 PM (11 years, 19 days ago)

7 grams will ensure that, and then some. Watch yourself man, be careful, shit is no joke. If you truly feel ready, then chomping down 7 grams is going to get you incredibly high, and you won't be worrying about tripping hard enough. If that amount doesn't cut it, then I'm sorry, that is rough.

I'm not suggesting this by the way, I'm telling you, if you really want to trip, YOU know what you should do. Ingest more. If it's what you really want and are prepared for, go for it. You might love it! If it's the opposite, it will be hell in it's purest form.

Think good vibes, and keep set/setting priority 1. Do not force the trip, don't just go because "you feel like it", it has to be the right time, and you will know when the right time comes

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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #17944336 - 03/12/13 03:08 PM (11 years, 19 days ago)

I have never had a 7g trip I did not love. That said, I have a good deal of experience... and a high tolerance.


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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: Rose]
    #17944465 - 03/12/13 03:29 PM (11 years, 19 days ago)

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I have never had a 7g trip I did not love. That said, I have a good deal of experience... and a high tolerance.



Agreed. 7 grams is my favorite dose honestly. I happen to love the 5 gram range as well. I have never had a bad experience on any Psychedelic. I have had very BRIEF moments of confusion and being somewhat scared, but I can usually shift the mind set before it escalates. Beyond that, I find when tripping at that intense of a level, good and bad is just hard to define. The experience just "is".

Funny because the only time I thought I might have a bad trip was on LSD once. I was loving it so much that I said "How can anyone have a bad trip?". Once I said that the word "bad", it became so over analyzed and it freaked me out, because I started to feel like I was gonna lose myself, but I turned the mind set around.

As you said, experience is a different game, and even experienced users freak out sometimes. I like to consider myself experienced at this point, but not as experienced as I'd like to be.

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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #17944494 - 03/12/13 03:34 PM (11 years, 19 days ago)

That said, I have had to babysit folks on 1.5g.


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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: Rose]
    #17945249 - 03/12/13 05:51 PM (11 years, 19 days ago)

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That said, I have had to babysit folks on 1.5g.



AMEN!!!!!!!!


With that said, I've needed baby sitting once when I took 1.5 of APE, and another time that I took 3.5 of F+. HOWEVER, those were my only two experiences that I felt scared, otherwise i've taken around 52-54 grams of my same F+ while camping over 24 hours and was the magical earth Shaman, roaming the earth and marveling at it's amazing beauty!


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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: slapphappypill]
    #17945308 - 03/12/13 06:02 PM (11 years, 19 days ago)

Well from what you guys have said i think ill try 7g. I feel ready and ill be getting my hands on 2 oz soon. :grin: What you guys say happened on your 7g trips?


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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: tokacola]
    #17945388 - 03/12/13 06:13 PM (11 years, 19 days ago)

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Well from what you guys have said i think ill try 7g. I feel ready and ill be getting my hands on 2 oz soon. :grin: What you guys say happened on your 7g trips?



Impossible to explain. I remember my first real experience being on 7 grams, my friend and I were blasting "Tommy" from the Who. Time freezes, it ceases to exist. You are launched into another dimension. Beautiful grid like patterning for everything. Everything is laid out the way it is for a reason. I don't know man, it's hard to explain heavy Mushroom trips, they are intense to say the least. It's only SOMEWHAT possible to describe visuals, people always think of visuals with psychedelics. The mind fuck, oh, the mind fuck, that is the indescribable part.

I have a 5 gram lemon tek sitting right now! Drinking it around 10 tonight!

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Re: Should an 8th have done more to me? [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #17945407 - 03/12/13 06:15 PM (11 years, 19 days ago)

Good luck! i understand i have taken DMT and 25i-nbome its hard to explain the really intense visuals


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