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InvisibleDoctorJ
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A credit to Dementia
    #1793845 - 08/08/03 11:03 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

In the field of psychology, we have a little term called "utilitarian delusion". Like telling retarded kids they are "special". Psychological studies indicate that a certain amount of self delusion is not only positive in its effects on the psyche, but also positively effects the performance of the individual.

ever see those christians on the street with buckets, collecting money for the homeless or starving children? If it werent for faith, a lot more children in the world would go hungry.

faith (however irrational) often gets people through hard times in their life, when nothing else seems to help. It also makes people more productive by giving them a sense of purpose.

Even if you don't believe, is it that hard to realize that faith does have a positive effect on the "real world"?


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Re: A credit to Dementia [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1793965 - 08/08/03 11:47 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Further proof that our thoughts create our reality.


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Re: A credit to Dementia [Re: Shroomism]
    #1794169 - 08/09/03 01:02 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Faith healing is a good way to feel good. Being an optimist as oppose to a pesimist can gain you 20 years onto your life.


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Re: A credit to Dementia [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1794171 - 08/09/03 01:02 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yup, being pessemistic is a really dumb move.

you have a big day ahead of you!


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Re: A credit to Dementia [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1794212 - 08/09/03 01:24 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Even if you don't believe, is it that hard to realize that faith does have a positive effect on the "real world"?

This ground has been covered endless times. There is no difference in suicide, divorce or alcoholism rates between Christians and agnostics/atheists.

As to being positive, I truly don't see it. Faith usually does not stand alone, but comes with dogma and self-righteousness attached (my way is THE way); frequently leading to political, social and ideological friction, which in turn can lead to war.


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Re: A credit to Dementia [Re: Swami]
    #1794221 - 08/09/03 01:28 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

"Faith usually does not stand alone, but comes with dogma and self-righteousness attached "

"religion" and "faith" are two completely different things. I know many religious people who lack faith, and they can be very destructive. Individually accquired faith is very different from dogmatic brainwashing.

"(my way is THE way)"

"bigotry" and "faith" are also two completly different things. I dont think you have the right to give anyone a lecture on bigotry, swami.


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Re: A credit to Dementia [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1794400 - 08/09/03 03:01 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

swami said: This ground has been covered endless times. There is no difference in suicide, divorce or alcoholism rates between Christians and agnostics/atheists.


riiiight, its nice to apply pre-made labels eh? unfortunatly humans are not cheez whiz or coca-cola.

faith has nothing to do with religion or god or atheism. its a fact, and integral to human nature, much like love and hate.


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