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The pedo moved away thank god!
#17901597 - 03/04/13 08:04 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I mentioned this event in passing in a few threads but there have been some updates in the last few days.
Long story short, this guy who was staying with my neighbor came over on Friday so I have him some free MDMA since he had not done it before.
During the roll, he told me he was raped by his brother when he was 12 and now he is into child porn 
He tried to watch porn with me and go gay on me saying I was hot and shit.
I've dealt with trainwrecks in the past, so I just stayed calm and let him stay until he was sober, hiding my disgust, pity, and loathing.
Here's the thing, he was staying with my neighbor and they have a small child(!!!!!!)
I was about to clear the air with my neighbor and tell him about the CP (not the rape) last night, but when I brought him up my neighbor said that he had left the next day.
He seemed upset with me, which I am confused and hurt by because me and him are friends. But when I stopped and said hi today he just glared at me and said "it's pretty cold outside" hinting strongly that my presence was not welcome and I should go inside.
I think today I am goin to stop by and clear the air, and see WTF happened and what (if anything!) he told my neighbor about me that may or may not be true to make him act that way towards me.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight]
#17901636 - 03/04/13 08:26 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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d00d
i'm moving in permanently this week
and plz dont tell them about the childpr0n
cuz then they wont let me stay with their kid,, *uhh emm* i mean them...

HAIL SATAN
but on a serious note fuck yes tell them about that.
look out for the kid man.
fuck that dude.
id tell em about the rape too why not. he's a child predator.
no respect.
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I'm about to head over... Damn this is going to be a shitty conversation.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight]
#17901652 - 03/04/13 08:34 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Got some coffee in yer system.
Have cigarettes for immediately after.
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#17901741 - 03/04/13 09:09 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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They were completely unaware that anything was out of sorts.
I was kind of hoping he had maybe told them himself? I don't know.
I opened by saying how MDMA used to be legal for counseling sessions to get patients to open up and be able to deal with their past, but that he told me something I couldn't just ignore.
They smoke weed and trip so they already knew about MDMA and weren't upset with me for giving it to him.
I told them if they had noticed had any signs of abuse in their daughter they should be taking it very seriously, and that he should check his computer for CP.
Fucking aye, I started crying and his wife gave me a hug and he shook my hand and we're cool now.
What a way to start your week. 
I am glad I got that shit off my chest though
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight] 4
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So, did the guy actually admit to preying on children or did he just say he was into pedophilia? If he's not actively "harming" children or whatever I don't really see the need to be on the dude's case.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime] 13
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Idk where you're from but in my neighborhood you don't put the privacy of a pedophile above the safety of a child.
I struggled with telling them but finally decided I had to do it. What if their daughter had unexplained bruises in the last month etc.?
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The guy admitted to watching child porn, it doesn't necessarily mean he would be abusive to children, but it is a strong warning sign, either way I hope your neighbors appreciate your concern for their well being.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight] 9
#17901835 - 03/04/13 09:38 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: Idk where you're from but in my neighborhood you don't put the privacy of a pedophile above the safety of a child.
This is not the general attitude of the Shroomery. I, however, wholeheartedly agree with you and am glad you did the right thing.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: qman] 4
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I'm just saying, maybe the guy had no intention of molesting children or whatever. Maybe he just confided in you when he was feeling empathetic and never wanted to hurt anyone.
I don't actually know, but I assume most pedophiles don't actually hurt anyone, spending their lives being satisfied by their fantasies. It would really suck if you outed someone who really had no intention of hurting any kids.
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qman said: The guy admitted to watching child porn, it doesn't necessarily mean he would be abusive to children, but it is a strong warning sign, either way I hope your neighbors appreciate your concern for their well being.
I don't know, is it really a strong warning sign? Maybe the dude's a bad guy but maybe he's actually not. Is it okay to tell your neighbors something that will make them hate a person forever without clear reason?
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you should have beat the shit out of him.
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Dude, do you know how many guys Chris Hansen has interviewed who admitted that they "couldn't help themselves"? I'm sure they had no intentions of hurting kids, either, but they did, and they claim no responsibility for it. Kiddie porn is just an enabler.
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sun_spots said: Dude, do you know how many guys Chris Hansen has interviewed who admitted that they "couldn't help themselves"? I'm sure they had no intentions of hurting kids, either, but they did, and they claim no responsibility for it. Kiddie porn is just an enabler.
I didn't really watch that show, but the youtube clips I saw of it years later were of guys that were pretty close to being retarded. As in hardly being capable of knowing what was acceptable in society and what was not. I'm not saying all pedophiles end up being good people, but I am saying that they shouldn't be judged as bad people if they haven't hurt any kids. Lots of people have weird fantasies that they never act on, and I don't know if it's okay to out pedophiles that haven't really expressed a desire to harm anyone.
OP said the guy was molested or something, and in a lot of similar cases being into kids isn't exactly a conscious choice that one makes.
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Precisely. The guy's got mental problems and looks at child porn. The next step is not that far away for him, and he doesn't seem like the type who can control himself.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots]
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How do you know the guy can't control himself? Maybe he does, hating himself for his entire life because he knows he won't ever be accepted by society.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Mr Flipper]
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Mr Flipper said: Heavy, don't know if I'd have put up with that, him coming onto you an all. Would have told him to get the fuck out, and go straight round to that neighbours house and told them.
He probably moved because he told you his deepest most shady secret, and because the feelings weren't mutual, he realised how socially fucked he would be if you told anyone. Probably told your neighbour some harsh lie about your personality so as to make your possible future claims regarding his paedophilia seem less credible.
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lmao now he's gonna become a recluse due to shame and start abducting kids
he is forever on his own
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Mr Flipper]
#17901938 - 03/04/13 10:08 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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The OP went to his neighbors to protect their child, that was a good decision. He could have reported the potential crime of child porn to law enforcement, he did not and should not.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Mr Flipper]
#17901966 - 03/04/13 10:17 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mr Flipper said: Maybe he does? Well, maybe he doesn't? Who knows? We know he admitted to finding child porn sexually arousing, and that he went through a fucked up childhood. I'd say outing him in some form or another is totally appropriate, even if it's just for the peace of mind of possibly preventing a future incident.
It's not as though everyone in his neighbourhood will have letters sent round announcing his presence. Done the right way, I imagine he can get some low-key, confidential therapy to move towards sorting his shit out.
Yeah, but maybe there wouldn't ever be a future incident. We don't know and OP doesn't know. Letters probably wouldn't be sent, but word would get around via concerned parents and probably ruin the guy's life. But if the guy never intended to hurt a kid would that be okay? Would it be worth it?
I know NWlight meant well by his actions but is it a good thing to do something like that when nobody may actually be in danger?
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots]
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sun_spots said: Dude, do you know how many guys Chris Hansen has interviewed who admitted that they "couldn't help themselves"? I'm sure they had no intentions of hurting kids, either, but they did, and they claim no responsibility for it. Kiddie porn is just an enabler.
Chris Hansen was worse than the pedophiles he would lure to his lair.
Was this guy a real pedophile — liking prepubescent kids, or was it younger teenagers?
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! *DELETED* [Re: MorphinTime]
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Mr Flipper]
#17902058 - 03/04/13 10:43 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can respect that opinion, though I probably can't empathize with it. It may be that I'm biased, but I was kind of molested as a kid and it really didn't fuck me up like they tell you on CSI or Law & Order. Even if the guy turns out to be a real predator I think the crime is actually greatly exaggerated. I'm sure I'll get hate for saying such though and my experience doesn't reflect everyone's. I'm just saying, it's probably possible for some guy to be into kiddies while never acting on the feeling, and I don't think fucking someone's life over for that is really okay unless evidence of a desire to harm others exists.
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#17902073 - 03/04/13 10:47 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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alright guys for the record - he was just visiting, not living with them. for about a month so far but it was an "undetermined" amount of time.
He has moved several hours away back to his home town.
Nobody's life is ruined, but potentially their friendship, and this is what I had to take into account when choosing to tell him about the possible danger to his child.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Mr Flipper]
#17902084 - 03/04/13 10:51 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually my skills of inciting estrangement are completely unrelated to that particular incident.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Mr Flipper]
#17902086 - 03/04/13 10:52 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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MorphinTime said: I was kind of molested as a kid and it really didn't fuck me up
Going by your 'How to Lose Friends and Alienate Yourself' thread, I beg to differ .
Awesome comment!
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: koods]
#17902109 - 03/04/13 10:59 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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He gave me the graemlin, it was a probably a kind jest.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime] 5
#17902116 - 03/04/13 11:02 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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MorphinTime said: Yeah, but maybe there wouldn't ever be a future incident. We don't know and OP doesn't know. Letters probably wouldn't be sent, but word would get around via concerned parents and probably ruin the guy's life. But if the guy never intended to hurt a kid would that be okay? Would it be worth it?
I know NWlight meant well by his actions but is it a good thing to do something like that when nobody may actually be in danger?
Most pedophiles don't genuinely want to hurt any kids, they're just incredibly confused and often deranged like you mentioned but that isn't always at the forefront. Many child molesters seem like totally normal, kind people outside of a predatory situation.
It's always worth it if he is around children. If the OP just told the neighborhood about the guy living on his own watching CP I would say it was unnecessary. The guy was living in a house with a little girl though, a huge trigger for his impulses. It's not only a bad situation for the child, but a bad situation for the guy because he's so close to his fantasy. OP really did him a favor, if anything was going to happen it isn't going to happen now.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime]
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MorphinTime said: He gave me the graemlin, it was a probably a kind jest.
Still a pretty good comment.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight]
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#17902194 - 03/04/13 11:20 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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JoieDeVivre said: OP really did him a favor, if anything was going to happen it isn't going to happen now. 
Do people actually tell themselves these things?
I don't agree with you at all. Personally, I think that based on the information NWlight provided, it was not appropriate to alert others about the dude's pedophilia. Maybe it's a hard concept to fathom, but not everyone who's sexually attracted to kids acts on any of those fantasies. Yes I understand about damage control, but I don't think that's okay at all. Maybe the dude was actually innocent and is now fucked. Maybe he was guilty or was going to be. I don't know and you probably don't either, but it's not okay to convict people of some crime when you don't know they did anything wrong.
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Your staunch defense of pedophilia is a little disturbing.
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JoieDeVivre said: OP really did him a favor, if anything was going to happen it isn't going to happen now. 
Do people actually tell themselves these things?
I don't agree with you at all. Personally, I think that based on the information NWlight provided, it was not appropriate to alert others about the dude's pedophilia. Maybe it's a hard concept to fathom, but not everyone who's sexually attracted to kids acts on any of those fantasies. Yes I understand about damage control, but I don't think that's okay at all. Maybe the dude was actually innocent and is now fucked. Maybe he was guilty or was going to be. I don't know and you probably don't either, but it's not okay to convict people of some crime when you don't know they did anything wrong.
Your a sick, sick fuck.
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sun_spots said: Your staunch defense of pedophilia is a little disturbing.
The aversion to my defensiveness is actually pretty disturbing to me. I'm not even defending acts of pedophilia, just the existence of such persons really, and that they might not always hurt others. I've garnered a nice bit of hate just for saying that not harming people is okay.
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The viewing of CP images is a bit of a moral grey area, but in terms of law, it is illegal to download such images.
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HOW IS WANTING TO FUCK CHILDREN A MORAL GREY AREA, PEOPLE
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: smack]
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lil_demented said: Your a sick, sick fuck.
Nice grammar bro.Quote:
smack said: The viewing of CP images is a bit of a moral grey area, but in terms of law, it is illegal to download such images.
Yes, viewing it provides a market for it, but isn't that kind of like saying doing drugs funds terrorism? I'm not saying pedophilia is good, just that all pedophiles don't hurt others.
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sun_spots said: HOW IS WANTING TO FUCK CHILDREN A MORAL GREY AREA, PEOPLE
The same way wanting to murder someone but not acting on it is.
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sun_spots said: HOW IS WANTING TO FUCK CHILDREN A MORAL GREY AREA, PEOPLE
Um, morality is subjective? It's actually not "morally wrong" everywhere, and some cultures don't actually decry such things.
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Not the same at all. It's so sad that so many people are willing to step in to defend a person who's morally bankrupt. I think it's time for everyone here to stop and take a good look at themselves.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots]
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I will meditate on this after I eat, I assure you. But in the spirit of reflection, may I propose that you try some sympathetic introspection in regards to what these pedophiles are actually doing versus what actions they are being accused of.
For the record, I wholeheartedly support what NWlight did.
I personally am simply ambivalent in the case of someone who only goes as far as viewing images.
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What does the phrase "morally bankrupt" even mean? It just seems like a way of depriving someone else of any self-worth. We don't know if the pedophile in question intends to or has ever harmed anybody. Maybe he's just some nice guy with a kind heart, not wishing hurt on anyone. It seems possible he was in a situation where he thought he could safely confess what he was into. Is it really that hard to believe he could be a nice guy?
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#17902404 - 03/04/13 12:06 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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"only goes as far as"
You know those pictures didn't magic themselves into existence, right? If there wasn't a market for pictures taken of people who "only go as far as viewing images", there wouldn't be pictures taken of people raping kids.
Think about this. It's not difficult, but you've made your allegiance to pedophilia clear, so I don't think you're going to change your mind.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime]
#17902406 - 03/04/13 12:07 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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MorphinTime said: What does the phrase "morally bankrupt" even mean? It just seems like a way of depriving someone else of any self-worth...
It seems possible he was in a situation where he thought he could safely confess what he was into. Is it really that hard to believe he could be a nice guy?
The fact that he showed shame in his confession seems to reveal moral awareness. Morally bankrupt sounds to me like sociopathy.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime] 4
#17902411 - 03/04/13 12:08 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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WTF.
The pub is filled with either pedophiles or sympathizers. You're all disgusting. I remembered why I primarily post in OTD just now.
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Well this is a scenario I'm uncertain of. Are the images being paid for by the pedophile viewing them?
Like I said, I'm ambivalent about the viewing of images. The purchase of images is something I'm against and should have probably stated earlier.
If you can enlighten me on how the exchange of child pornography works I will gladly end my ambivalence, until then I don't know.
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There is no grey area. Its wrong. You cant justify it.
OP did the right thing, I hope nothing happened to that girl.
If dude was in my house living with my kid and my neighbor knew that and didnt tell me and I found out he knew and didnt tell me, Id have a BIG problem with that neighbor.
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Fear not, Burke. I believe kiddy-diddly is pretty gross, and informing the neighbour was the appropriate course of action. If you're the kind of person who cares about your neighbours, anyway.
Viewing sexually-compromising images of children is a different situation than having a fantasy. A fantasy is a construct of the mind; no harm is done in holding elaborate fantasies of flaying and eating my dog. If someone else makes a video of them flaying and eating their dog, and I actively watch such content then.. harm has already been done and by endorsing it you are endorsing the harm done in the creation of such content.
Generally I don't care to discuss the objective or subjective nature of morality. It is a topic that is seldom worth attempting to establish objective values over. We can all agree that the law has no sympathy for paedophiles, ephebophiles, or whatever pedantic distinctions you'd like to make in order to further obfuscate the point. That alone is reason to distance yourself from those who are of such a persuasion. If you think they disdain illegal drugs, wait 'til you see how they treat sexual deviants who directly or indirectly condone the violation of minors.
That said, I personally find it reprehensible. It could be argued that such a fetish is widely borne some sort of disorder which needs to be addressed by a professional. Such a fixation over the sexuality of minors is certainly not normal for a grown man. I'd have probably beaten the fucker before informing your next-door-buddies.
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It seems possible he was in a situation where he thought he could safely confess what he was into. Is it really that hard to believe he could be a nice guy?
The fact that he showed shame in his confession seems to reveal moral awareness. Morally bankrupt sounds to me like sociopathy.
Yeah sociopathy in this case sounds to me like rhetoric made for the purpose of exclusion. He showed shame in is confession? What does that have to do with the guy having hurt anyone? Maybe he expressed shame because he was socialized in a place that deems shame is an appropriate reaction for such feelings?
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The pub is filled with either pedophiles or sympathizers. You're all disgusting. I remembered why I primarily post in OTD just now.
Yeah what the fuck really? I know pedophilia isn't supposedly lucrative (actually it probably is very lucrative), but being a pedophile doesn't necessarily mean one is also a child molester. Meaning being a pedophile isn't actually a guarantee of being some menace to society.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight]
#17902452 - 03/04/13 12:19 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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You did the right thing NW.
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I've watched some pretty vile porn before. I'm willing to bet more than half of the guys here have as well - yet I haven't done any of the fucked up shit I've seen (in fact, I've turned one or two things down when they were offered). It's disturbing if the guy's been watching *actual* sex with children...but again, I'm no better, I've seen horrible things on teh internets that should have never happened. You're not morally culpable for actions the actions of other people if there's nothing you can do.
If he hasn't done shit, if he doesn't seem like he's going to do shit, I don't see any reason to judge or go to the cops or beat the guy. Sheesus, every time someone brings up "the children" people's brains just stop processing things rationally.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sonamdrukpa] 3
#17902473 - 03/04/13 12:24 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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There IS something you can do: You can CHOOSE NOT TO CONDONE such actions.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight] 3
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It sounds like the MDMA helped him deal with the trauma a bit at least. What that guy needs is some MDMA treatment for post traumatic stress it sounds like. And NWlight, you did betray him. He told you about the trauma of his past probably believing it was in confidence and that he could trust you. If anything it'll reinforce the need for secrecy in his mind and drive him further from getting the help he needs. You could have been a force for good in his life, but you threw that away because you were incapable of dealing with a person who has genuine harsh non-normal problems. If anything you have now made him worse.
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Getting raped and having psychological problems from it that cause you to be attracted to children isn't something you choose to do. It's not an action.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Ellis Dee]
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It's far more important to look out for a kid who can't look out for themselves.
If the sicko wanted help, advice or confidentiality, he should have went to a shrink.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime]
#17902502 - 03/04/13 12:29 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I totally agree. The guy is fucked in the head from being raped. He's a terrible victim but needs treatment and understanding not condemnation. I think most people like that have trouble forming normal relationships and so they end up being attracted to boys out of desperation. If they could honestly and openly deal with the shit in their past and current life they could probably get a normal relationship and the feeling toward boys would go away. It's kind of like the catholic priest thing where they are so repressed their normal desires come out in a totally fucked up way. If the priests weren't forced to be celibate they would be normal dudes instead of predators.
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#17902503 - 03/04/13 12:30 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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sun_spots said: There IS something you can do: You can CHOOSE NOT TO CONDONE such actions.
Is it really a choice? It just seems like it probably isn't in many cases. Maybe the guy the OP is talking about did make the choice to abstain from involving himself with children, we don't know.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#17902509 - 03/04/13 12:31 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hope you never have children. Dear God.
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Personally, I hope none of you have children. I can't stand the little fuckers. That being said, if you want to stick something in their butts, you're a psychological fuck-up and should be ostracised as such.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime]
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sun_spots said: There IS something you can do: You can CHOOSE NOT TO CONDONE such actions.
Is it really a choice? It just seems like it probably isn't in many cases. Maybe the guy the OP is talking about did make the choice to abstain from involving himself with children, we don't know.
He made the choice to look at child pornography. He's sick in the head. Why are you still defending his sickness? IT IS NOT NORMAL OR HEALTHY OR OKAY TO LOOK AT KIDDIE PORN.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime]
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P.S. Look up the definition of the word "condone" before you continue to participate in this discussion.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: luvdemshrooms] 1
#17902528 - 03/04/13 12:36 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's far more important to look out for a kid who can't look out for themselves.
If the sicko wanted help, advice or confidentiality, he should have went to a shrink.
Certainly yes. But he reached out to NWlight instead. In his position I'd have probably encouraged him to get a shrink. I think talking and being able to confide in anyone is a first step in the right direction. Certainly he needs help from professionals that can give him the proper psychotherapy but you should also not underestimate the power of MDMA and honest talk on it to overcome powerful traumatic experiences. There is research being done on MDMA and PTSD right now and it is a blessing for a lot of screwed up people like the guy NWlight dealt briefly with.
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So he can have a chance to abuse this guys child? If someone gets off by children they are fucked in the head. He's not a bad guy for masturbating to child pornagraphy? Fuuck that. Good thing you told them man, his kid could've been being abused. If someone told me they yank one off to kids I would beat the living shit out of them. There is no excuse for such a horrible act. When he told you this, did he sound like he regrets looking at CP? Was he acting like it was no big deal or normal? That's a warning sign that he could act on his fucked up urges.
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There does appear to be science linking it to physical defects in the brain. How can we ostracize people who can't help how their brain ultimately functions? It would probably be like how homosexuals were/are ostracized for being born the way they were. (I do not make the claim that pedophiles are on the same moral plane as homosexuals, but there is a comparison I simply wanted to make.) I fully support those people to get help so that they can live with their condition without urges to act on it, which I imagine must fill them with remorse and shame. But if they merely fantasize, I don't see the need to ostracize and alienate them from society.
Ultimately I don't know. I'm just taking what I know and am stating ambivalence. I joined when the argument was heated and offered some opposing viewpoints.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight] 2
#17902547 - 03/04/13 12:40 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots] 1
#17902566 - 03/04/13 12:43 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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sun_spots said: There IS something you can do: You can CHOOSE NOT TO CONDONE such actions.
Is it really a choice? It just seems like it probably isn't in many cases. Maybe the guy the OP is talking about did make the choice to abstain from involving himself with children, we don't know.
He made the choice to look at child pornography. He's sick in the head. Why are you still defending his sickness? IT IS NOT NORMAL OR HEALTHY OR OKAY TO LOOK AT KIDDIE PORN.
It's pretty clear that society has decided it's not okay to look at kiddie porn. I actually don't even know if kiddie porn is just nude children or if they're being forced into sexual acts with adults or with each other or if it's something else altogether. But apparently it's bad stuff and harms children. Things that harm others is not okay. But the guy probably isn't responsible for the advent of child porn, and it will probably continue to exist with or without his consent. We don't know if the guy actually harmed anyone, and him viewing CP that existed without his consent doesn't really change that.
Maybe he's just a nice guy to whom psyche-crushing things happened, and now he likes kids in a sexual way but doesn't ever do anything about it. We really don't know, because OP hasn't provided us with that sort of information. I don't know, I just kind of do this thing where I believe people are innocent until proven guilty and then I guess people despise me for it.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime]
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Soooo... an update, OP??? What did the neighbor say and how did he take it???
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Yes, viewing it provides a market for it, but isn't that kind of like saying doing drugs funds terrorism? I'm not saying pedophilia is good, just that all pedophiles don't hurt others.
Oh come on. A person taking drugs hurts only themselves, if it's harmful at all. At the best, watching legitimate CP is supporting an industry that exploits children and at worst is building up a fantasy that becomes more and more difficult to resist acting out, especially when in the presence of a little girl.
You're trying to make it out like watching legitimate child porn at all is okay, and really it's not any better than buying drugs you know are from a cartel responsible for the murders of innocents or buying from a company that you know exploits people/harms the environment/whatever. There were clear signs in OP's story that the guy wanted to act out some of his fantasies, who knows what else he would want to act on. No one ever is a pedophile until an opportunity arises, and people who enjoy CP who would otherwise never seek out and touch a child often take those opportunities as they are presented to them. Quote:
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Is it really a choice? It just seems like it probably isn't in many cases.
He's sick, it's not a choice. That's exactly why he needs to first NEVER EVER be around any children (because if he can't choose not to watch kiddie porn I don't trust his ability to violate children who can't defend themselves) and second get help for his issues.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime]
#17902603 - 03/04/13 12:54 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well I'm with you on this 100%
People don't even know if the guy was looking at 17 year olds or 7 year olds, in the former case whats the issue? Think before you act, emotional instability leads to problems.
The guy was also opening up to OP, confiding in him, looking for help? Talk to the fucker maybe?
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Crystal G] 1
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Perhaps reading the thread would be of help to you. He already has.
The neighbor stuck his tongue out and called him a poopy head.
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If the sicko wanted help, advice or confidentiality, he should have went to a shrink.
False, if he hasn't done anything then by helping him are you not preventing the theoretical problems which may arise?
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Have cigarettes for immediately after.

Sounds like my kinda person
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Not the same at all. It's so sad that so many people are willing to step in to defend a person who's morally bankrupt. I think it's time for everyone here to stop and take a good look at themselves.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Repertoire89] 1
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A preemptive strike to protect the child is absolutely the right first step. No one is responsible for rehabilitating the guy, besides himself. The child is the one someone has to be responsible for. Also, if you read the OP, you'll see that the guy was not asking for help. How do you know he would have accepted it, had it been offered? The safe, wise thing to do is to alert possible victims to the possibility, so that they can make their own choices about how best to protect their child. That is what NW did, and he did the right thing.
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sun_spots said: A preemptive strike to protect the child is absolutely the right first step. No one is responsible for rehabilitating the guy, besides himself. The child is the one someone has to be responsible for. Also, if you read the OP, you'll see that the guy was not asking for help. How do you know he would have accepted it, had it been offered? The safe, wise thing to do is to alert possible victims to the possibility, so that they can make their own choices about how best to protect their child. That is what NW did, and he did the right thing.
Maybe we should take a preemptive strike against drug users to protect the children and end the drug trade
Wait a minute :facepalm
It was a drug fueled conversation, granted he did let some beyond crazy shit slip. Haven't yall ever said some shit you didnt mean when your fucked up?
I probably would have told his roomie too, but i definitely would not be acting like a moral crusader
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sun_spots said: A preemptive strike to protect the child is absolutely the right first step. No one is responsible for rehabilitating the guy, besides himself. The child is the one someone has to be responsible for. Also, if you read the OP, you'll see that the guy was not asking for help. How do you know he would have accepted it, had it been offered? The safe, wise thing to do is to alert possible victims to the possibility, so that they can make their own choices about how best to protect their child. That is what NW did, and he did the right thing.
I disagree, your argument stands on rhetoric and emotionalism.
Why not talk with the guy and find out all the facts? Be patient and see if you can help him, thus preventing any crime
Instead we don't know what age group he was interested in, we don't know if hes ever acted on these impulses, and he'll be keeping this secret tighter - preventing treatment.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420] 1
#17902679 - 03/04/13 01:08 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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You don't seem to grasp the concept of what we're actually discussing here.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Repertoire89]
#17902686 - 03/04/13 01:09 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seriously Age group means a lot. Sex laws need to change. If you have never been attracted to a 17 year old girl you are lying.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots] 1
#17902690 - 03/04/13 01:09 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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sun_spots said: You don't seem to grasp the concept of what we're actually discussing here.
No i do you are just responding with a lot of reactionary overly emotional bullshit.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots]
#17902691 - 03/04/13 01:10 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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sun_spots said: You don't seem to grasp the concept of what we're actually discussing here.
You're not seeming to grasp the fact that any harms to any children are only hypothetical at this point.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#17902707 - 03/04/13 01:12 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your tactic of calling other people's opinions "overly emotional bullshit" is petty, played-out and ineffective, not to mention extremely immature.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420]
#17902711 - 03/04/13 01:13 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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elax420 said: Seriously Age group means a lot. Sex laws need to change. If you have never been attracted to a 17 year old girl you are lying.
I'm just glad that there are a few people in this thread who can think before they make a decision.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Repertoire89] 1
#17902720 - 03/04/13 01:14 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sex laws do not need to change. People need to stop mollycoddling childfuckers.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots]
#17902722 - 03/04/13 01:14 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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sun_spots said: Your tactic of calling other people's opinions "overly emotional bullshit" is petty, played-out and ineffective, not to mention extremely immature.
Sounds like rhetoric to me.
Can you demonstrate the falseness of the idea?
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420]
#17902724 - 03/04/13 01:14 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: It's far more important to look out for a kid who can't look out for themselves.
If the sicko wanted help, advice or confidentiality, he should have went to a shrink.
False, if he hasn't done anything then by helping him are you not preventing the theoretical problems which may arise?
Wrong. Not in the US. If you go to a shrink and tell them you are attracted to anyone underage, by law, the shrink must report you if he/she feels you have access to children (who doesn't). It's pretty fucked up, because the people who need the help the most are shut out effectively.
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elax420 said: Seriously Age group means a lot. Sex laws need to change. If you have never been attracted to a 17 year old girl you are lying.
I most states, the age of consent is 17 or 16. You can fuck them as much as you want. Take a sexy photo - you're going to jail.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Repertoire89]
#17902730 - 03/04/13 01:15 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're just not used to reading that many multi-syllabic words at once.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots]
#17902733 - 03/04/13 01:16 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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lil_demented said: Your a sick, sick fuck.
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smack said: The viewing of CP images is a bit of a moral grey area, but in terms of law, it is illegal to download such images.
Yes, viewing it provides a market for it, but isn't that kind of like saying doing drugs funds terrorism? I'm not saying pedophilia is good, just that all pedophiles don't hurt others.
Oh come on. A person taking drugs hurts only themselves, if it's harmful at all. At the best, watching legitimate CP is supporting an industry that exploits children and at worst is building up a fantasy that becomes more and more difficult to resist acting out, especially when in the presence of a little girl.
You're trying to make it out like watching legitimate child porn at all is okay, and really it's not any better than buying drugs you know are from a cartel responsible for the murders of innocents or buying from a company that you know exploits people/harms the environment/whatever. There were clear signs in OP's story that the guy wanted to act out some of his fantasies, who knows what else he would want to act on. No one ever is a pedophile until an opportunity arises, and people who enjoy CP who would otherwise never seek out and touch a child often take those opportunities as they are presented to them. Quote:
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sun_spots said: There IS something you can do: You can CHOOSE NOT TO CONDONE such actions.
Is it really a choice? It just seems like it probably isn't in many cases.
He's sick, it's not a choice. That's exactly why he needs to first NEVER EVER be around any children (because if he can't choose not to watch kiddie porn I don't trust his ability to violate children who can't defend themselves) and second get help for his issues.
I don't really know, it kind of seems to me like you've decided you know for sure what the guy's intentions are and therefore know he will probably harm kids. How many pedophiles do you hear about who live quiet lives without incident? Probably close to none, am I right? I would venture to say there are many people that could be considered pedophiles but no one knows about them because they don't act on their fantasies or only confess to them under the influence of MDMA or some other empathogenic substance.
No, I'm certainly not trying to make viewing CP seem okay. And what does that mean, no one is a pedophile until the opportunity arises? I didn't know opportunity was directly related to pedophilia. I didn't know there was a certain moment that allowed for attraction towards children.
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It may be that no child is in danger, and a guy's life get's pretty much ruined "just in case."
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: JoieDeVivre] 1
#17902736 - 03/04/13 01:16 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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He needed to go...good job, op.
In like 1998 or so my cousin was spending the night at my house. We were in the AOL private chatrooms trading "pics" with people. There weren't many vids then, just .jpgs.... so one person would send a random porn pic and the other would return one, etc etc. Anyhow, some guy named NastyPete or DirtyPete or something like that sent me/us the most vile thing I've ever seen.
It was an image from the late 70s/early 80s, scanned in. There was a man, laying on the floor with a little girl, maybe 8 or 9, riding his cock while sucking the dick of another child, a boy, about the same age.

Those fuckers need to fry.
I'll never forget that image.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots]
#17902738 - 03/04/13 01:17 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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sun_spots said: Your tactic of calling other people's opinions "overly emotional bullshit" is petty, played-out and ineffective, not to mention extremely immature.
Dont respond with overly emotional bullshit about a hypothetic situation maybe 
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sun_spots said: Sex laws do not need to change. People need to stop mollycoddling childfuckers.
Oh someone didnt have sex till college.....
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime] 2
#17902741 - 03/04/13 01:17 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fucking hell, man. You really think it's better to just look the other way because there's a possibility of the child not getting hurt? You obviously don't have any children in your life whom you care about.
Also, NW posted that nothing was ruined. You can stop mentioning lives being ruined now.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#17902747 - 03/04/13 01:18 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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sun_spots said: The safe, wise thing to do is to alert possible victims to the possibility, so that they can make their own choices about how best to protect their child. That is what NW did, and he did the right thing.
This, I support
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fuck that dude.
id tell em about the rape too why not. he's a child predator.
no respect.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots]
#17902749 - 03/04/13 01:18 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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sun_spots said: You're just not used to reading that many multi-syllabic words at once.
Are personalisms the best you've got?
I'm a public speaker and performer, last weeks I had people violently yelling at me. Good luck rustling my Jimmies.
Rage, hate, harm. If thats what you're going to do. Personally I'll use my head and try to do some good by basing my decisions on economic - patient thought.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime]
#17902758 - 03/04/13 01:19 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dunno, man. People who like child porn give me a complete set of the creeps. In my opinion, they are child molesters looking for the right victim to kidnap, rape, torture and murder. It is pretty doggone disturbing.
I think OP did the right thing on this one.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots]
#17902759 - 03/04/13 01:19 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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sun_spots said: Fucking hell, man. You really think it's better to just look the other way because there's a possibility of the child not getting hurt? You obviously don't have any children in your life whom you care about.
Also, NW posted that nothing was ruined. You can stop mentioning lives being ruined now.
I agree with original statement your approach and reasoning is just fucked up
Are you a member of MADD by chance?
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots]
#17902770 - 03/04/13 01:21 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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sun_spots said: Sex laws do not need to change. People need to stop mollycoddling childfuckers.
How exactly do you know he's a child fucker
I feel no sympathy for pedophiles but it's just too easy to get caught in your emotions, for all you know the only thing he's done was fantasize about it
Sure it's fucked up but they can't really do anything about it, this whole " HANG THEM BY THEIR BALLS " thing needs to stop and you have to realize that they are mentally ill and need to be treated as such
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: smack]
#17902773 - 03/04/13 01:21 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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 Benevolence has no place in reality. I'm not going out of my way to behave amicably towards something which repulses me.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420]
#17902775 - 03/04/13 01:21 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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elax420 said: Dont respond with overly emotional bullshit about a hypothetic situation maybe 
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sun_spots said: Sex laws do not need to change. People need to stop mollycoddling childfuckers.
Oh someone didnt have sex till college.....
Personal attacks are far more immature than "overly emotional bullshit".
Your not doing any justice for your viewpoint.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Repertoire89]
#17902782 - 03/04/13 01:23 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Use your head to figure out why you think it's okay for grown men to sexualize children.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight]
#17902783 - 03/04/13 01:23 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm open to the idea that OPs actions were in the right.
Except that he didn't specify talking to the guy more and finding out more information, let alone discussing the issue with him and trying to help him with it.
One child may be safer from this action, but an opportunity to protect many has been hastily squandered.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots]
#17902793 - 03/04/13 01:24 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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sun_spots said: Use your head to figure out why you think it's okay for grown men to sexualize children.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: smack]
#17902796 - 03/04/13 01:24 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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elax420 said: Dont respond with overly emotional bullshit about a hypothetic situation maybe 
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sun_spots said: Sex laws do not need to change. People need to stop mollycoddling childfuckers.
Oh someone didnt have sex till college.....
Personal attacks are far more immature than "overly emotional bullshit".
Your not doing any justice for your viewpoint.
My viewpoint is pretty similar to hers.
Saying sex with a 17 -18 year old is wrong is bullshit. Maybe if you are like 30 
By 16 you are old enough to make your own decisions and sexually mature. My great grandma got married at 14 and had two kids by 17. Changing of the times i guess.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Constantine]
#17902797 - 03/04/13 01:25 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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the only thing he's done was fantasize about it
Incorrect. He has condoned the fucking of children by enjoying child pornography.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots] 2
#17902802 - 03/04/13 01:25 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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sun_spots said: Use your head to figure out why you think it's okay for grown men to sexualize children.
Define children.
If they are old enough to operate a multi ton death trap, or go to prison, they are old enough to fuck.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420]
#17902807 - 03/04/13 01:26 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots]
#17902822 - 03/04/13 01:28 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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the only thing he's done was fantasize about it
Incorrect. He has condoned the fucking of children by enjoying child pornography.
When I turn on the evening news, does that mean I condone war, robbery, corruption, and pop music? Hell no.
Don't tell me you've never seen a video of something fucked up and enjoyed it just a little bit.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#17902829 - 03/04/13 01:30 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, but fucking kids? Let me tell you FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE - the kids never get over it. They are completely fucked up the rest of their lives. Many go suicidal or end up in prison for the exact same thing because that is all they know. This is not consenting adults. This is completely rape. No two ways about it.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots]
#17902830 - 03/04/13 01:30 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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No what? Nanny nanny poopoo I've got my fingers in my ears?
Come off of it.
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I just think OP should have at least gathered more info. Both parties were on drugs. Judgement on something like this shouldn't be done intoxicated. The way things have been described, this guy has been "convicted" of thought crimes.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: koods]
#17902850 - 03/04/13 01:34 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: I just think OP should have at least gathered more info. Both parties were on drugs. Judgement on something like this shouldn't be done intoxicated. The way things have been described, this guy has been "convicted" of thought crimes.
Well put, I agree.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime]
#17902882 - 03/04/13 01:38 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: I just think OP should have at least gathered more info. Both parties were on drugs. Judgement on something like this shouldn't be done intoxicated. The way things have been described, this guy has been "convicted" of thought crimes.
Well put, I agree.
Your still a sick fuck.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd]
#17902895 - 03/04/13 01:40 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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mpd said: Yeah, but fucking kids? Let me tell you FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE - the kids never get over it. They are completely fucked up the rest of their lives. Many go suicidal or end up in prison for the exact same thing because that is all they know. This is not consenting adults. This is completely rape. No two ways about it.
This is true. And I don't think I could ever enjoy child porn if I saw some. But there are other evil things out there that give me some sort of twisted satisfaction, things that fuck people up just as much. It's fucked up, and if I had my way I wouldn't enjoy those things. But it seems to me that we're all at least a bit fucked up on the inside. I don't think people should be judged for desires that they don't act on.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: lil_demented]
#17902901 - 03/04/13 01:40 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: I just think OP should have at least gathered more info. Both parties were on drugs. Judgement on something like this shouldn't be done intoxicated. The way things have been described, this guy has been "convicted" of thought crimes.
The guy wasn't convicted of any crimes. He was obviously at least attracted to children and he was taken away from a situation where he would be tempted. How is that convicting him of anything? 
You guys are really warping the situation to make it look like the OP called the cops and ruined his life while they were still rolling or something.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: JoieDeVivre]
#17902934 - 03/04/13 01:44 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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The guys life could be ruined by this action, people love to gossip more than anything else I know of and odds are this information will get around.
I'm not defending this stranger I don't know, but I am suggesting that people think about their actions before executing. OP could have dug out more information about the guy and either helped him - or if he was a child-rapist: sent him to jail.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: JoieDeVivre]
#17902936 - 03/04/13 01:45 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Everybody is getting hysterical. There was a calm, medically based discussion about this on Dan Savage's podcast
http://savagelove.libsyn.com/rss
Episode 321 starting at 21:30.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Repertoire89]
#17902953 - 03/04/13 01:49 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: The guys life could be ruined by this action, people love to gossip more than anything else I know of and odds are this information will get around.
I'm not defending this stranger I don't know, but I am suggesting that people think about their actions before executing. OP could have dug out more information about the guy and either helped him - or if he was a child-rapist: sent him to jail.
Do you think OP didn't think about this before he did it? Getting that guy out of a situation that could be explosive was a good thing. You're saying he shouldn't have done it just because "it could ruin his life" when the opposite situation could have ruined many more lives, including that of an innocent child.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime] 2
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I wonder - Would it make a difference to you all whether or not the couple next door are my friends? And that it's actually an apartment building and I share a wall with them? That I've smoked them out and vice versa?
THEN is it more "ok" to care about their kid and advocate for it?
I never said whether or not we knew each each other before this incident.
Also, they USE MY WIFI!
Some of these replies are really disheartening to me.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Repertoire89]
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Not necessarily. By hesitating while "helping", you could be giving him the time he needs to overcome his hesitation.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight]
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THEN is it more "ok" to care about their kid and advocate for it?
I never said whether or not we knew each each other before this incident.
Also, they USE MY WIFI!
Some of these replies are really disheartening to me.
thank you those of you who choose not to be permissive of rape
Regardless if you knew them or not. You did the right thing of informing them that someone suffering from pedophilia was in the presence of their child.
I also agree wholeheartedly with how you handled it. By not dehumanizing that person and acting with only concern.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight]
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It's not like getting sent to jail is the only way for someone's life to be ruined. People don't usually like to admit it, but the the opinions of others have a pretty big effect on your life. Just in this thread it's been expressed how much animosity there is for this guy we don't know much about.
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NWlight said: I wonder - Would it make a difference to you all whether or not the couple next door are my friends? And that it's actually an apartment building and I share a wall with them? That I've smoked them out and vice versa?
THEN is it more "ok" to care about their kid and advocate for it?
I never said whether or not we knew each each other before this incident.
Also, they USE MY WIFI!
Some of these replies are really disheartening to me.
thank you those of you who choose not to be permissive of rape
No, I don't really think it makes it more okay if you knew the couple. Who in this thread was being permissive of rape?
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime]
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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I think he would and will act upon it if he had the chance to be alone with the kid. Maybe not though. I will admit when I was about 14 or something I was really horny and tried to get my 10 year old cousin to sit on my lap sometimes because she had a nice ass(don't be too hard on me, lol). Now that I'm older I know it was fucked up and wish I was never that pathetic. Kids are not aware of sexuality and are easy to take advantage of.
Now when I'm with that cousin I feel weird and wonder if she knew I was fucked up like that since she's older.. I'm not proud of my early weird horny acts, but atleast I know now that it was fucked up and I think if I was still attracted to my cousin or attracted to anything fucked up like that I would need to be watched. That's why I think this guy has a right to be told about this, because I feel this freak would have tried something.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: JoieDeVivre] 3
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If our society didn't put so much shame into the idea of sex and stigmatize it, child molestation wouldn't create nearly the problems it does. The fact that molested children grow up being made to feel ashamed, confused, hurt, etc. is solely because that's what our society tells them they should feel. The problem with child molesters isn't the pedophiles themselves; it's the society that created them.
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Repertoire89 said: The guys life could be ruined by this action, people love to gossip more than anything else I know of and odds are this information will get around.
I'm not defending this stranger I don't know, but I am suggesting that people think about their actions before executing. OP could have dug out more information about the guy and either helped him - or if he was a child-rapist: sent him to jail.
Do you think OP didn't think about this before he did it? Getting that guy out of a situation that could be explosive was a good thing. You're saying he shouldn't have done it just because "it could ruin his life" when the opposite situation could have ruined many more lives, including that of an innocent child. 
I'm not saying he shouldn't have said anything, I'm saying he should have spent the night digging information out of the guy on the sly. Which is what I would have done, and likely found out off the bat that the guy was referring to 17 year olds and has never acted on the impulse.
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Not necessarily. By hesitating while "helping", you could be giving him the time he needs to overcome his hesitation.
He need not hesitate if he simply ask a few questions before making a decision.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: lil_demented]
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Well put, I agree.
Your still a sick fuck.
You still fail at English, I guess?
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime]
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It's not like getting sent to jail is the only way for someone's life to be ruined. People don't usually like to admit it, but the the opinions of others have a pretty big effect on your life. Just in this thread it's been expressed how much animosity there is for this guy we don't know much about.
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NWlight said: I wonder - Would it make a difference to you all whether or not the couple next door are my friends? And that it's actually an apartment building and I share a wall with them? That I've smoked them out and vice versa?
THEN is it more "ok" to care about their kid and advocate for it?
I never said whether or not we knew each each other before this incident.
Also, they USE MY WIFI!
Some of these replies are really disheartening to me.
thank you those of you who choose not to be permissive of rape
No, I don't really think it makes it more okay if you knew the couple. Who in this thread was being permissive of rape?
You seem pretty permissive of letting what may happen, happen without intervening.
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society is composed of individuals, and individuals make up society... you could put it either way.
neither is at fault, these people are truly sick and whether or not Our society is set up to handle them in a mental facility and treat them is irrelevant.
that guy should not be ANYWHERE near a child, let alone BABYSITTING ONE
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abltsandwich said: If our society didn't put so much shame into the idea of sex and stigmatize it, child molestation wouldn't create nearly the problems it does. The fact that molested children grow up being made to feel ashamed, confused, hurt, etc. is solely because that's what our society tells them they should feel. The problem with child molesters isn't the pedophiles themselves; it's the society that created them.
You're 100% wrong, they feel bad because AN ADULT VIOLATED THEIR TRUST IN PEOPLE. They were used, their opinion didn't matter, they didn't even know what was happening to them in many cases and they never sought it out.
You think molested children only feel bad because of society? You think we could, and perhaps should, possibly view child molestation as something to make the child feel good?
what. the. fuck.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime]
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MorphinTime said: It's not like getting sent to jail is the only way for someone's life to be ruined. People don't usually like to admit it, but the the opinions of others have a pretty big effect on your life. Just in this thread it's been expressed how much animosity there is for this guy we don't know much about.
Your friends knowing you watch kiddie porn is something you can get over, move away from, etc. Going on the books as a pedophile is something that ruins your life. No one has animosity towards that guy, just towards the people who would rather protect a pedophile's secret from being exposed to his friends than protect a child whose life could have literally been ruined.
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You're 100% wrong, they feel bad because AN ADULT VIOLATED THEIR TRUST IN PEOPLE. They were used, their opinion didn't matter, they didn't even know what was happening to them in many cases and they never sought it out.
You think molested children only feel bad because of society? You think we could, and perhaps should, possibly view child molestation as something to make the child feel good?
what. the. fuck. 
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sun_spots]
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Well since you're too childish to play along nicely ill just have a sweet conversation with myself.
I've been on both sides of the Law. When i was 17 I made it to 3rd with a 34 year old . Should she go to jail for fullfiling a high school aged boys fantasy, hell no. When i was 18 i had sex with a 16 year old. Should i go to jail for having sex with someone in the same age group as me just because i passed some stupid arbitrary boundary dictated by law not science?
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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Yep, everything you just said is socially based. I'm VERY morally relativistic and I do not see things as black and white. There's no such thing as right and wrong, in my opinion; everything is a gray area.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: abltsandwich]
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abltsandwich said: Yep, everything you just said is socially based. I'm VERY morally relativistic and I do not see things as black and white. There's no such thing as right and wrong, in my opinion; everything is a gray area.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime] 1
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Well put, I agree.
Your still a sick fuck.
You still fail at English, I guess?
You're. Who cares dude. Least I don't condone pedophilia. Were talking about something that could ruin a child's entire life.
Just because you liked getting touched by your uncle doesn't mean the rest of the children in the world would enjoy it. You pedo's are all the same, you think you love the children and are showing them in your own special way. Then you say whatever you can to make yourself feel good about it.
I'm just gonna assume that you are a child molester and download kiddy porn. You disgust me. And that's actually a hard thing to do.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: abltsandwich] 3
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abltsandwich said: Yep, everything you just said is socially based. I'm VERY morally relativistic and I do not see things as black and white. There's no such thing as right and wrong, in my opinion; everything is a gray area.
Not much gray area in fucking a small child in the ass or forcing them to perform blow jobs or eat another child's pussy. I don't see the gray there, bub.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd]
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Rhetoric is just effective use of language, dude. It doesn't mean what I'm saying is invalid or untrue, it means I'm trying to express my position to you. Rhetoric is what we all use every single time we post on this board.

It's disgusting to suggest that we should, as a society, view child molestation or watching legitimate child porn involving children being taken advantage of as something that is okay and accepted. Child molestation is worse than rape in that the child does not even have the faculties to consent nor to protect themselves.
@abltsandwich Obviously everything isn't black and white but when we're talking about ACTUAL children (not 17 year olds) and legitimate child porn, I don't see where the grey area is. Not violating someone else's desires isn't something that's inherent to our society, it's something that transcends any simple sense of morality in my opinion.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: lil_demented]
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I think we found our first pedo boys
all that projecting/self hatred
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: lil_demented]
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You're. Who cares dude. Least I don't condone pedophilia. Were talking about something that could ruin a child's entire life.
He never once condoned pedophilia.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd]
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Not much gray area in fucking a small child in the ass or forcing them to perform blow jobs or eat another child's pussy. I don't see the gray there, bub.
It's gray if our society didn't attach so much shame and importance to sexual acts in the first place. Imagine a society where sex is 100% open and free, with absolutely no social penalties in any way associated with sex of any type. Gay, straight, young, old, black, white, whatever, it's all just sex and not important. In that society, child molestation would not be a problem because there would be absolutely no stigma associated with it. The children would grow up and feel normal, because of social moores. Gray area indeed. believe it or not, we create what we dislike by disliking it in the first place. In our society we hide our "private parts" so no one can see. We have sex in private so on one can see. We are ashamed of our own desires and pleasures. That creates the stigma that goes along with child molestation in the first place.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420]
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all that projecting/self hatred
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MorphinTime said: It's not like getting sent to jail is the only way for someone's life to be ruined. People don't usually like to admit it, but the the opinions of others have a pretty big effect on your life. Just in this thread it's been expressed how much animosity there is for this guy we don't know much about.
Your friends knowing you watch kiddie porn is something you can get over, move away from, etc. Going on the books as a pedophile is something that ruins your life. No one has animosity towards that guy,
Wrong. There is a special hate reserved for those labeled as pedophiles. There are people who fantasize about torturing/killing them in gruesome ways, and it's almost acceptable to most for a person to harbor some ill will toward someone attracted to children. It doesn't matter if the pedophile actually hurts anyone, the thought crime is enough.
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just towards the people who would rather protect a pedophile's secret from being exposed to his friends than protect a child whose life could have literally been ruined.
Yeah, fuck me because I might have mentioned that maybe some guy doesn't actually hurt children.
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You're. Who cares dude. Least I don't condone pedophilia. Were talking about something that could ruin a child's entire life.
Just because you liked getting touched by your uncle doesn't mean the rest of the children in the world would enjoy it. You pedo's are all the same, you think you love the children and are showing them in your own special way. Then you say whatever you can to make yourself feel good about it.
I'm just gonna assume that you are a child molester and download kiddy porn. You disgust me. And that's actually a hard thing to do.
Maybe you need to calm down and stop insulting people because they have their own opinion, and because they are able to discuss something like this without this kind of hysterical reaction doesn't mean they are child fuckers.
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Looks like this thread is descending into conjecture and hysteria. Emotionally charged topics tend to breed irrationality.
I understand the need to protect a child, it is the first priority. However I don't condone the dehumanizing and ostracizing of people suffering from a brain defect. They need help, not judgement.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said: Rhetoric is just effective use of language, dude. It doesn't mean what I'm saying is invalid or untrue, it means I'm trying to express my position to you. Rhetoric is what we all use every single time we post on this board.

Not at all. Rhetoric wouldn't get you a C- in philosophy, debate or English.
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when we're talking about ACTUAL children (not 17 year olds) and legitimate child porn, I don't see where the grey area is.
I agree, and only criticize OPs disregard for gathering information before acting.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Repertoire89]
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elax420 said: I think we found our first pedo boys
all that projecting/self hatred
lol, guess it could be construed as such.
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JoieDeVivre said: Rhetoric is just effective use of language, dude. It doesn't mean what I'm saying is invalid or untrue, it means I'm trying to express my position to you. Rhetoric is what we all use every single time we post on this board.

Not at all. Rhetoric wouldn't get you a C- in philosophy, debate or English.
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when we're talking about ACTUAL children (not 17 year olds) and legitimate child porn, I don't see where the grey area is. Not violating someone else's desires isn't something that's inherent to our society, it's something that transcends any simple sense of morality in my opinion.
I agree, and only criticize OPs disregard for gathering information before acting.
No trust me Rhetoric would get you a C- in English
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: abltsandwich]
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abltsandwich said: Yep, everything you just said is socially based. I'm VERY morally relativistic and I do not see things as black and white. There's no such thing as right and wrong, in my opinion; everything is a gray area.
Not much gray area in fucking a small child in the ass or forcing them to perform blow jobs or eat another child's pussy. I don't see the gray there, bub.
It's gray if our society didn't attach so much shame and importance to sexual acts in the first place. Imagine a society where sex is 100% open and free, with absolutely no social penalties in any way associated with sex of any type. Gay, straight, young, old, black, white, whatever, it's all just sex and not important. In that society, child molestation would not be a problem because there would be absolutely no stigma associated with it. The children would grow up and feel normal, because of social moores. Gray area indeed. believe it or not, we create what we dislike by disliking it in the first place. In our society we hide our "private parts" so no one can see. We have sex in private so on one can see. We are ashamed of our own desires and pleasures. That creates the stigma that goes along with child molestation in the first place.
bullshit. These are not adults consenting in your world. These are children and they have no idea what they are getting themselves into and have no way of handling the matter. Imagine fucking up generations of kids with this nonsense.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: smack]
#17903123 - 03/04/13 02:21 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Distorted Vision said: I think he would and will act upon it if he had the chance to be alone with the kid. Maybe not though. I will admit when I was about 14 or something I was really horny and tried to get my 10 year old cousin to sit on my lap sometimes because she had a nice ass(don't be too hard on me, lol).
I assume you are attracted to people all the time. How many of them do you fuck?
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Repertoire89]
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I feel like he was a secret agent going around and making friends with people to try to see if they admit to making child porn lol.
But on a serious note,yeah that's pretty fucking weird.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420]
#17903125 - 03/04/13 02:21 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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elax420 said: I think we found our first pedo boys
all that projecting/self hatred
The only people in this thread I suspect of being potential pedos would be: MorphinTime, Repitoire89, and yourself.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Repertoire89]
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abltsandwich said: Yep, everything you just said is socially based. I'm VERY morally relativistic and I do not see things as black and white. There's no such thing as right and wrong, in my opinion; everything is a gray area.
Not much gray area in fucking a small child in the ass or forcing them to perform blow jobs or eat another child's pussy. I don't see the gray there, bub.
It's gray if our society didn't attach so much shame and importance to sexual acts in the first place. Imagine a society where sex is 100% open and free, with absolutely no social penalties in any way associated with sex of any type. Gay, straight, young, old, black, white, whatever, it's all just sex and not important. In that society, child molestation would not be a problem because there would be absolutely no stigma associated with it. The children would grow up and feel normal, because of social moores. Gray area indeed.
It's not about the fact that it's sexual or how our society feels about sex, it's about FORCING PEOPLE WHO CAN NOT HELP THEMSELVES TO DO THINGS THEY DO NOT WANT TO DO. It's not about it being sex, it's about using power over others unfairly, especially over others who can't even understand what's going on to protest it.
You're stuck in some "it's just sex, man" idea as if it's the sex part that's being condoned. No one is against child molestation because it's sex, but because it's violating children. 
Molested children do not feel upset/shameful because anything that society says. When you're raped, at any age, you feel shame/violation/hatred/pain because someone took advantage of you, they violated your personal desires and your autonomy, they hurt you, they INVADED you.
Not violating someone else's autonomy isn't a societal thing; it's universal.
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It's bizarre that you think you know enough about the situation to judge OP's information gathering attempts. From what I can tell he did most of what I would have done. Do you think that if he asked the guy if he ever molested a little kid he'd confess that he'd been fantasizing about the neighbor girl if that were the case?
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Seriously, are you ever NOT on some kind of high horse on this forum? Big bold letters definitely makes a stronger point.
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#17903135 - 03/04/13 02:23 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I do regret not finding out more details, but keep in mind that even though I can handle my shit, I was still rolling balls on the end of a 4 day bender. It's pretty difficult to have that kind of foresight.
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#17903136 - 03/04/13 02:23 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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all that projecting/self hatred
The only people in this thread I suspect of being potential pedos would be: MorphinTime, Repitoire89, and yourself.
Oh no im a pedo because i fucked a 16 year old when i was 18
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd]
#17903145 - 03/04/13 02:24 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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mpd said: bullshit. These are not adults consenting in your world. These are children and they have no idea what they are getting themselves into and have no way of handling the matter. Imagine fucking up generations of kids with this nonsense.
"getting into?" Whatever they're "getting into" is social stigma.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight]
#17903159 - 03/04/13 02:26 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: I do regret not finding out more details, but keep in mind that even though I can handle my shit, I was still rolling balls on the end of a 4 day bender. It's pretty difficult to have that kind of foresight.
Its all good, chances are if he specified that he watches child porn it wasn't 16/17 year olds. I'm not throwing any hammers at you.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420]
#17903161 - 03/04/13 02:27 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you weren't a complete buffoon, you'd know most states have a 36 month rule when it comes to sexual interaction with a minor. I meant by based on how you're going as far as personal attacks to defend pedophilia, that perhaps you have some first hand experience with it.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: abltsandwich]
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abltsandwich said: Seriously, are you ever NOT on some kind of high horse on this forum? Big bold letters definitely makes a stronger point. 
Do you have to be such an ass? Why do people like you jump on me for discussing things like everyone else? Maybe you're the one projecting a "high horse" attitude here, since you're so above societal norms?
I'm discussing my own opinion, do you expect me to be uncertain? You take the fact that I'm invested in my own personal opinions as arrogant?
The letters were big and bolded because you fallaciously assume there's one simple answer to something so complex as humans feeling shame after a traumatic event. You assume you know how other people feel and why they feel. I get easily disgusted by people who think it's okay to invade someone else's autonomy, especially on a site full of drug users most of who would desire their own autonomy from people who would like to control them.
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lil_demented said: You're. Who cares dude. Least I don't condone pedophilia. Were talking about something that could ruin a child's entire life.
Just because you liked getting touched by your uncle doesn't mean the rest of the children in the world would enjoy it. You pedo's are all the same, you think you love the children and are showing them in your own special way. Then you say whatever you can to make yourself feel good about it.
I'm just gonna assume that you are a child molester and download kiddy porn. You disgust me. And that's actually a hard thing to do.
Wow, what a weak-assed post. I almost feel as if I'm in grade school with all the ad hominems and lame rhetoric flying around.
First, not one person in this thread knows if some kid's life would be ruined should OP have let the guy's confession go without reaction.
Second, I'm pretty sure calling other members pedos is frowned upon on this site because it's not only done in bad taste, but there may actually be liability that becomes an issue or something. Really not cool.
Did you know people can argue for things they don't actually support?
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"getting into?" Whatever they're "getting into" is social stigma.
With all due respect, this is the kind of argument I would expect to see a card-carrying member of NAMBLA make. This is creeping me out. Your answer amounts to almost explicit endorsement. That is pretty scary stuff.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd]
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mpd said: bullshit. These are not adults consenting in your world. These are children and they have no idea what they are getting themselves into and have no way of handling the matter. Imagine fucking up generations of kids with this nonsense.
"getting into?" Whatever they're "getting into" is social stigma.
With all due respect, this is the kind of argument I would expect to see a card-carrying member of NAMBLA make. This is creeping me out. Your answer amounts to almost explicit endorsement. That is pretty scary stuff.
Usually I don't agree with mpd at all, but he's right here.
You're basically saying child molestation is okay, and a preferable society wouldn't shame molestation.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Repertoire89]
#17903188 - 03/04/13 02:32 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its all good, chances are if he specified that he watches child porn it wasn't 16/17 year olds. I'm not throwing any hammers at you.
This was my thinking as well.
Who takes MDMA for the first time and admits to looking at "child pornography" if they are talking about people who are almost of legal age?
I got the impression he was legitimately talking about per-pubescent children.
No matter how little the chances of something happening I would not have been able to live with myself if something happened and I didn't say anything.
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Cannibal Concubine said: If you weren't a complete buffoon, you'd know most states have a 36 month rule when it comes to sexual interaction with a minor. I meant by based on how you're going as far as personal attacks to defend pedophilia, that perhaps you have some first hand experience with it.
Personal attacks to defend Pedophilia?
show me where i did that.
Im pretty sure im too young to commit pedophilia anyway unless i like fuck a 14 year old 
Keep trying to defend your fellow OTD You try hard tool.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: JoieDeVivre]
#17903190 - 03/04/13 02:32 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't hate me because I have a moderate degree of sociopathy and I can discuss such topics without any emotion. Label me whatever you want because it matters to me about as much as the last time I blew my nose. I'd be making the same arguments about murder, rape, theft, war crimes, etc. That doesn't make me a perpetrator of any of those either.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight]
#17903200 - 03/04/13 02:34 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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NWlight said: They were completely unaware that anything was out of sorts.
I was kind of hoping he had maybe told them himself? I don't know.
I opened by saying how MDMA used to be legal for counseling sessions to get patients to open up and be able to deal with their past, but that he told me something I couldn't just ignore.
They smoke weed and trip so they already knew about MDMA and weren't upset with me for giving it to him.
I told them if they had noticed had any signs of abuse in their daughter they should be taking it very seriously, and that he should check his computer for CP.
Fucking aye, I started crying and his wife gave me a hug and he shook my hand and we're cool now.
What a way to start your week. 
I am glad I got that shit off my chest though
I didn't read the whole thread yet but I am VERY glad you did the right thing and told what you needed too. 
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Im pretty sure im too young to commit pedophilia anyway unless i like fuck a 14 year old 
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: abltsandwich]
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abltsandwich said: Don't hate me because I have a moderate degree of sociopathy and I can discuss such topics without any emotion. Label me whatever you want because it matters to me about as much as the last time I blew my nose. I'd be making the same arguments about murder, rape, theft, war crimes, etc. That doesn't make me a perpetrator of any of those either.
You are certainly a thought-producing poster. K+ to you, sir!
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight]
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420]
#17903216 - 03/04/13 02:37 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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all that projecting/self hatred
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So does this.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420]
#17903217 - 03/04/13 02:37 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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How about that? So am I, AD.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight]
#17903221 - 03/04/13 02:38 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Who takes MDMA for the first time and admits to looking at "child pornography" if they are talking about people who are almost of legal age?
Shit is creepy man
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Im pretty sure im too young to commit pedophilia anyway unless i like fuck a 14 year old 
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Well since you're too childish to play along nicely ill just have a sweet conversation with myself.
I've been on both sides of the Law. When i was 17 I made it to 3rd with a 34 year old . Should she go to jail for fullfiling a high school aged boys fantasy, hell no. When i was 18 i had sex with a 16 year old. Should i go to jail for having sex with someone in the same age group as me just because i passed some stupid arbitrary boundary dictated by law not science?
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So does this.
Ya I don't like you very much 
You still never showed me where i defended Pedophilia. That seems like a little bit more serious of "namecalling" than saying Shitbird.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: abltsandwich]
#17903229 - 03/04/13 02:40 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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abltsandwich said: Don't hate me because I have a moderate degree of sociopathy and I can discuss such topics without any emotion. Label me whatever you want because it matters to me about as much as the last time I blew my nose. I'd be making the same arguments about murder, rape, theft, war crimes, etc. That doesn't make me a perpetrator of any of those either.
I don't care whether or not your discussion of the topic involves emotion. The simple principle of not violating anyone else's autonomy requires no emotion. If you genuinely can't see a rationale behind not committing a crime, it seem like it will be pretty likely that you will commit said crime if the opportunity arises. That's the problem being discussed here, really.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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There's no violation if the act isn't viewed as a violation in the first place. It's only violating if we view it as such.
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#17903244 - 03/04/13 02:42 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Reminds me of that online scam that NBC was running to catch pedophiles all over the country in an underage sex sting. That stuff was pure gold.
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I disagree. A child is in no position to know what is healthy and what isn't. There is nothing healthy about an adult having intercourse with a child.
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abltsandwich said: There's no violation if the act isn't viewed as a violation in the first place. It's only violating if we view it as such.
If I pin you down, stick my dick in your ass, and punch you in the face thirteen times, I have violated you. Regardless of societal boundaries, it is a clear violation of autonomy. I don't think consensual sex is so much the discussion here as molestation is.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420]
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I don't think anybody here likes you very much. Go melt in the romper room again.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: abltsandwich]
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If there's no consent how can it not be a violation of autonomy? By definition it is a violation of someone's autonomy to force them to act against their will. I can't honestly understand how you could rationally deny that molestation isn't violating someone's autonomy. (Obviously by situation it varies but I'm talking about LEGITIMATE molestation of a legitimately young child or any situation where someone legitimately forces someone to do something that they honestly do not want to do, not the exceptions)
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Oh yup and im the one detracting from conversation 
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If I pin you down, stick my dick in your ass, and punch you in the face thirteen times, I have violated you. Regardless of societal boundaries, it is a clear violation of autonomy. I don't think consensual sex is so much the discussion here as molestation is.
Perhaps it is both?
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: qman]
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qman said: The guy admitted to watching child porn, it doesn't necessarily mean he would be abusive to children, but it is a strong warning sign, either way I hope your neighbors appreciate your concern for their well being.
Yeah, I agree with this. If I was letting someone stay with me in the house where my child (if I had one) lived, I would be livid if found out that someone close to me knew that they were into child pornography but didn't tell me. When it comes to the well being and safety of children, awareness and a "better safe than sorry" attitude is always the best.
I am all for an open and understanding perspective when it comes to sexuality but anyone who can view the objectification of a child as anything besides morally reprehensible isn't someone that I can agree with. These people certainly need help but they also don't need to be living in a house with a child, especially with parents that are unaware of his mental state.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: keyohnah]
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I think it would make me too nervous to allow them to stay, keyohnah. I just couldn't stretch that extra mile and bridge the divide. With my own personal history with this issue, it would just be too much. I'm just not big enough of a person to accept it.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420]
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Oh yup and im the one detracting from conversation 
Get over yourself and stop trying so hard to fit in.
Well you certainly aren't adding to it. Then again, neither am I. I just posted in this thread because I feel that if the FEDs confiscated your hard drive, they would find plenty of CP.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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There's a violation of someone's free will if you hold them down and force them to do anything whether it's take cough medicine or a dick in the ass. My argument is that there's little difference until social stigma comes into play then all of a sudden the dick in the ass has a bunch of emotions attached to it.
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And my point is society conventions notwithstanding, the dick in the ass has emotional repercussions attached to the act, the relationship and how the child views people of that sex from that point forward.
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One time I k-holed by accident when I was with with people I didn't know well at the time. My only memory is being carried to the bathroom by some older guy I didn't trust.
For weeks on end I thought I had been raped, it fucked with my head. It's hard to describe the synergy of shame and anxiety that accompanied me for that time. But had I not gotten to know those people and learned to trust I had not been raped, I can't even imagine how my life may have turned out.
Coercing an unknowing child into sex is not all that different. We've all done naive things in our childhood we've grown to regret. This is something that can't be brushed away easily.
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Oh yup and im the one detracting from conversation 
Get over yourself and stop trying so hard to fit in.
Well you certainly aren't adding to it. Then again, neither am I. I just posted in this thread because I feel that if the FEDs confiscated your hard drive, they would find plenty of CP.
Well you would be wrong
You just posted in this thread because you are a try hard suck up. You haven't even talked about the topic once, just attacked me. I feel if the feds confiscated your hard drive it would be full of faggotry 
If you want to have a personal conversation with me PM me or else just stop dude.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd]
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The same thing could be said about forcing your kid to eat vegetables, only to have them grow up hating vegetables and holding resentment against their parents for all of it.
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Did you seriously just compare pedophilia to making your kids eat vegetables?
I don't understand what skewed sort of logic you must have to even think those two things are comparable.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: abltsandwich]
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abltsandwich said: There's a violation of someone's free will if you hold them down and force them to do anything whether it's take cough medicine or a dick in the ass. My argument is that there's little difference until social stigma comes into play then all of a sudden the dick in the ass has a bunch of emotions attached to it.
No, there's usually a lot of stigma around violating someone else's autonomy especially when it's for your own pleasure. Giving someone cough medicine is generally done for their benefit and those violations of autonomy are much more understandable and thus are less morally reprehensible in ANY society. You're totally wrong about the reasoning here. It's not because it's sex, it's because it's violating someone else's autonomy in an especially violent way.
People react more to child molestation than rape because children can't even defend themselves nor do the youngest even know what is being done to them.
I feel like you're misunderstanding intentionally or something because this seems so obvious to me. Are you unable to empathize with a violation of autonomy of any level? I would think everyone has had their autonomy violate at some point, and could then extrapolate that experience to more and less severe situations to better understand them, but I guess sociopath is all about not being able to empathize.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: abltsandwich]
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abltsandwich said: The same thing could be said about forcing your kid to eat vegetables, only to have them grow up hating vegetables and holding resentment against their parents for all of it.
No, it is not the same. Forcing children to eat vegetables is not likely to result in mental illness, nor is it likely to result in the person growing up to harm other children.
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I'm with you 100% on this. There is no way that I would allow someone who was aroused by children in compromising situations to live in the same house as my child.
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Sexual conduct is not the same thing as eating vegetables. Have you considered the physical trauma as well? It's not just psychological damage that can be done, though that's bad enough on it's own.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: Kilgore Trout] 2
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Did you seriously just compare pedophilia to making your kids eat vegetables?
I don't understand what skewed sort of logic you must have to even think those two things are comparable.
You obviously haven't been molested with a zucchini then.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: abltsandwich]
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Let's pretend like you have children, even if you don't. Knowing the information that you know, would you allow him to live with you and your children?
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: keyohnah]
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Sharing is caring.
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I'm with you 100% on this. There is no way that I would allow someone who was aroused by children in compromising situations to live in the same house as my child.
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abltsandwich said: The same thing could be said about forcing your kid to eat vegetables, only to have them grow up hating vegetables and holding resentment against their parents for all of it.
Sexual conduct is not the same thing as eating vegetables. Have you considered the physical trauma as well? It's not just psychological damage that can be done, though that's bad enough on it's own.
Exactly. It would be like giving a kid the keys to the candy store so to speak. I would worry that, sooner or later, the temptation would be too much or they would be looking lasciviously at little naked children and the children would soon know it. I just couldn't do that.
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I don't see anything humorous about this topic.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: keyohnah]
#17903363 - 03/04/13 03:08 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Me either, sandwich. This is too darn serious of a matter.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: keyohnah]
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Come on if you can't make humor out of child molestation then how can you enjoy life at all?
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd]
#17903374 - 03/04/13 03:10 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: abltsandwich]
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: keyohnah]
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I disagree. A child is in no position to know what is healthy and what isn't. There is nothing healthy about an adult having intercourse with a child.
What sucks is the kids who actually get away with meeting the older men/women and engaging in sex willingly. There is obviously some people in both age groups that do it and never get caught. Why do the men/women go to meet the children if they have never gotten away with it before? The ones who say this is the first time are lying as far as I am concerned.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime]
#17903396 - 03/04/13 03:13 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: MorphinTime]
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I got two ratings from this thread so far. So many people getting so wound up over words on a screen.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
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It is the duty - nay, the OBLIGATION - of the adult to step in and say this has to stop before there is any sexual contact in those instances. No matter what the child does, it does not excuse the adult's behavior. We don't want people claiming enabling when they don't have the capacity to understand the implications of enabling an adult to do this sort of activity.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: abltsandwich]
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What's best are the accusations of condoning pedophilia and the exploitation of children when you clearly haven't approved of any such thing.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight]
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This is my point! You were in no condition to judge someone.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: koods]
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This is my point! You were in no position to judge someone.
It's not a matter of judging, koods. We are talking potential child endangerment here. You err on the side of caution and apologize for any hurt feelings later. No quarter asked or given. When we are talking children that is the way it just has to be.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd]
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This is my point! You were in no position to judge someone.
It's not a matter of judging, koods. We are talking potential child endangerment here. You err on the side of caution and apologize for any hurt feelings later. No quarter asked or given. When we are talking children that is the way it just has to be.
A sober, non-intoxicated talk with this guy would have been a fair thing to do. The guy is being judged on his behavior when he was fucked up on MDMA.
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Its not just words on a screen, its the thoughts that the words represent.
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Its not just words on a screen, its the thoughts that the words represent.
No its the emotion you attach to others thoughts.
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This is my point! You were in no position to judge someone.
It's not a matter of judging, koods. We are talking potential child endangerment here. You err on the side of caution and apologize for any hurt feelings later. No quarter asked or given. When we are talking children that is the way it just has to be.
A sober, non-intoxicated talk with this guy would have been a fair thing to do. The guy is being judged on his behavior when he was fucked up on MDMA.
Apparently, it is not his conduct when he is sober that is the question here. It is his conduct once he gets a buzz that is the matter for danger. The sober conversation would yield a sober denial.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight]
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Apparently, it is not his conduct when he is sober that is the question here. It is his conduct once he gets a buzz that is the matter for danger. The sober conversation would yield a sober denial.
Sounds like he has a drug problem. Any other drug induced behavior that was socially unacceptable would be written off as a product of fucked up. I said this was close to punishing someone for thought crimes, but its really worse because the thoughts are clouded by psychoactive drugs. It just seems nobody was sober the entire time, and everybody is ok with that.
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Koods, no.
If someone is expressing these tendencies its a problem. You cant justify it.
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Yet so many in this thread seem to be trying.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sui]
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He stated he watches child pornography. The fact he was high while confessing doesn't justify his alleged actions.
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Um, morality is subjective? It's actually not "morally wrong" everywhere, and some cultures don't actually decry such things.
You have to be kidding me. It's clear that you relish the attention you're getting from playing devil's advocate here, but are you genuinely of the belief that there is nothing morally wrong with watching child pornography? Please, do name one of these cultures that doesn't find it deplorable and, if it is found more abundantly or openly than in Western societies such as ours, please show me a place where it's not explicitly illegal.
You're full of shit. The idea of so many hippies eating shrooms and deluding themselves into taking some kind of ideological stance that somehow the viewing of child pornography is not wrong makes me feel so much shame for the community of people who do legitimately use psychedelics to expand their consciousness. What kind of fucked up mental gymnastics does it take to be as twisted as you clearly are on this issue?
Children are most certainly harmed in the making of it, and by downloading and creating a demand for it, you are only helping perpetuate the cycle of victimizing children.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sui]
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Its not just words on a screen, its the thoughts that the words represent.
You choose to ascribe a certain meaning to them and you choose to feel how you do about them. Without your interpretation of them, they are in fact, just words on a screen.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: abltsandwich]
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The irony of this thread is that the OP is thanking the same god that made the pedophile in the first place.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: abltsandwich]
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Its not just words on a screen, its the thoughts that the words represent.
You choose to ascribe a certain meaning to them and you choose to feel how you do about them. Without your interpretation of them, they are in fact, just words on a screen.
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NO man, I dont choose to ascertain meaning. They have meaning because they are words, which represent ideas, which people have. They are just symbols but they represent real ideas. I do not choose to ascertain meaning from what I read, choosing NOT to ascertain meaning from what you read is ignorant.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sui]
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This conversation just got a hell of a lot more heady.
Yes it is a passive process but that doesn't mean you aren't applying your own personal biases on what you read.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sui]
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The real ideas they represent are how you interpret them. If you give a bunch of people a paragraph to read, not every one of them will take away the same meaning from it because they infer different things from the same words. Therefore, the words only have the meanings you give them.
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Its not just words on a screen, its the thoughts that the words represent.
You choose to ascribe a certain meaning to them and you choose to feel how you do about them. Without your interpretation of them, they are in fact, just words on a screen.
And yet it is those very words on the screen that incite people to action. Pedophilia does not happen in a vacuum. It is a sick disease spread from individual to individual and it thrives on child pornography as a source of this virus' strength. There can be no logical argument that supports viewing child pornography. It is sick conduct by sick individuals.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd] 2
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Switch child porn to Drug abuse and Child porn to MJ and it sounds like a comment straight from the DEA.
Just sayin....
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420] 2
#17903751 - 03/04/13 04:22 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Smoking weed is not raping children.
what is with all of these comparisons to everyday activities?
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One is not a victimless crime here, exlax420. That's a BIG difference.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: NWlight] 2
#17903759 - 03/04/13 04:24 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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what is with all of these comparisons to everyday activities?
It would seem like justification for that which cannot be justified, if I did not know better that my brothers on this site are not in fact pedophiles. I was warned by another member that there was a pedophile ring on this board and I told that member they were wrong. Maybe, maybe not. I guess it is something to watch.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd] 1
#17903772 - 03/04/13 04:26 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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All just a matter of perception
Since so many people keep getting so butthurt about this thread. Let me Clarify, im not advocating Pedophillia i'm just pointing out some truly beautiful irony
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd]
#17903777 - 03/04/13 04:27 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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A CP ring on Shroomery?? WTF 
... really??? That's a little weird though. I don't believe it.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd]
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what is with all of these comparisons to everyday activities?
It would seem like justification for that which cannot be justified, if I did not know better that my brothers on this site are not in fact pedophiles. I was warned by another member that there was a pedophile ring on this board and I told that member they were wrong. Maybe, maybe not. I guess it is something to watch.
Yup im a pedophile 
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420]
#17903781 - 03/04/13 04:28 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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You gotta' be kiddin' me.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd]
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What do you mean?
No im not a pedophile no matter how hard all you guys keep trying to insist.
Yes i do believe you guys have a very McCarthyism like thing going on.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd]
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Well, this thread has enlightened me a fair bit. I feel I can resolve my ambivalence that began at the initial part of the discussion. I no longer condone (overlook) the viewing of CP media, as the added bandwidth likely becomes funds for someone who supports CP. My ambivalence is over in that regard.
I still feel that dehumanizing pedophiles is wrong and those people need treatment ASAP to minimize any potential harm to others and suffering for themselves. Those people suffer from something that they can't help, hatred and ostracizing won't help.
I never gave this issue much thought, it's nice to have a more concrete opinion.
@elax420: I don't know what your intentions are, but this is too heated a subject to play around with. Then again, your ratings seem to suggest you don't care. Let the thread die. Everyone has made their points, it's pretty much redundancy and trolling at this point.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420]
#17903822 - 03/04/13 04:35 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just sayin....
I'd have thought that you'd know the difference between something you do to yourself, and something that is done to others.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: smack]
#17903830 - 03/04/13 04:37 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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@elax420: I don't know what your intentions are, but this is too heated a subject to play around with. Then again, your ratings seem to suggest you don't care. Let the thread die. Everyone has made their points, it's pretty much redundancy and trolling at this point.
Im just fucking around, but my ratings got that way due to this thread and OTD 's

I don't buy into the idea that there are sensitive issues that shouldn't be talked about
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: luvdemshrooms] 1
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Just sayin....
I'd have thought that you'd know the difference between something you do to yourself, and something that is done to others.
Once again Perception.....
But fuck yall cant have a conversation without turing it into OMG YOUR A PEDO!!!!
Im outtie.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420]
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Where did I say any such thing?
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: luvdemshrooms] 1
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Not you in particular but about 5 people in this thread have jumped to that bullshit black and white interpretation.
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I agree entirely with sui's statements regarding "just words on a screen".
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: keyohnah] 1
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Ditto
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: mpd]
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You think you're pointing out something ironic but you're ignoring the fact that smoking weed harms no one, violates no one's autonomy, and is not a violent act but legitimate child porn is supporting and perpetrating all of those things, as is pedophilia.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: idiotek] 1
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sun_spots said: HOW IS WANTING TO FUCK CHILDREN A MORAL GREY AREA, PEOPLE
Um, morality is subjective? It's actually not "morally wrong" everywhere, and some cultures don't actually decry such things.
You have to be kidding me. It's clear that you relish the attention you're getting from playing devil's advocate here, but are you genuinely of the belief that there is nothing morally wrong with watching child pornography? Please, do name one of these cultures that doesn't find it deplorable and, if it is found more abundantly or openly than in Western societies such as ours, please show me a place where it's not explicitly illegal.
You're full of shit. The idea of so many hippies eating shrooms and deluding themselves into taking some kind of ideological stance that somehow the viewing of child pornography is not wrong makes me feel so much shame for the community of people who do legitimately use psychedelics to expand their consciousness. What kind of fucked up mental gymnastics does it take to be as twisted as you clearly are on this issue?
Children are most certainly harmed in the making of it, and by downloading and creating a demand for it, you are only helping perpetuate the cycle of victimizing children.
Lol, who let you out of OTD to come and misinterpret anything I said? I didn't deem that anything was morally right or wrong, I just pointed out that some people have a different view.
Besides countless tribes who actually make childhood sexuality a part of life there are places in southeast Asia like Cambodia and Indonesia and parts of South America that are well known for the child sex trade that exists there. While it's probably not legal, I guess it's not found deplorable by enough people since it clearly still happens. Technically it's more of a subculture in most places. Sorry I can't really be more informative here as I don't actually know much about CP and its production except that it happens.
I don't think I said I condoned the making/watching of child porn and if it seemed like I did I hope you reconsider my words since that's not the message I wished to convey.
I love how whenever someone suggests to wait a sec before crucifying some random guy for being a pedophile it stirs up all kinds of emotional bullshit that folks can't help but spew all over the place.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: elax420] 2
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elax420 said: This conversation just got a hell of a lot more heady.
Yes it is a passive process but that doesn't mean you aren't applying your own personal biases on what you read.
Look at it this way, if he was talking to a shrink and he said that he looks at CP, and the shrink knew he was staying with someone with a child, the shrink would be liable to use the information they know to protect the child.
NW did the right thing.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sui]
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Besides countless tribes who actually make childhood sexuality a part of life there are places in southeast Asia like Cambodia and Indonesia and parts of South America
I seriously doubt the number is countless.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: sui]
#17904070 - 03/04/13 05:26 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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After scanning the wikipedia pages for age of consent, I found only one or two countries that don't have an age of consent.
The rest usually are around 13 to 18.
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Re: The pedo moved away thank god! [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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elax420 said: This conversation just got a hell of a lot more heady.
Yes it is a passive process but that doesn't mean you aren't applying your own personal biases on what you read.
Look at it this way, if he was talking to a shrink and he said that he looks at CP, and the shrink knew he was staying with someone with a child, the shrink would be liable to use the information they know to protect the child.
NW did the right thing.
Ya and i have never disagreed with that point in this entire thread........
I've just caught a lotta shit for some reason unknown to me. Everyone is looking at this a purely Black and White.
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You think you're pointing out something ironic but you're ignoring the fact that smoking weed harms no one, violates no one's autonomy, and is not a violent act but legitimate child porn is supporting and perpetrating all of those things, as is pedophilia.
Thats just all perception. Im not even going to argue the counter point because ive gotten enough shit already from this damn thread, but weed can definitely be viewed as a detriment to more than just oneself. Whether or not you agree with it solely up to personal opinion and perception. Thats all im arguing, and thats all i have been arguing this whole thread.
Trying to argue Right and Wrong is just pointless IMO because everybody is going to have a different take and think theirs is the right way. Its just human nature. Go back like 3 pages where i said
ETHNOCENTRISM
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