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thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them?
    #17900673 - 03/04/13 12:09 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

i was reading posts the other day about a question i had, and as usual, trailed off on other posts and just started reading a lot of things that looked like good info.

i thought i saw something like if you have too much dry verm on the cakes after dunk and roll and mist too much during first couple days, it can result in the cakes getting "sealed" thus no pinning.

is there anything like this true?

putting too much verm on cakes, and regular misting possibly "seal" the cakes?

i ask because i have 4 cakes that have been in fc for about 2 weeks after first flush and only 3 shrooms have fully grown. 4 more cakes i put in there about 10 days ago and nothing has grown except a little pin i saw yesterday, still first flush. and then 2 more cakes i put in 3 days ago.


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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: crabbier cannabis]
    #17900702 - 03/04/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

na man.  just do whatever.

i never dunked and rolled, but people do it. 

i just dunk and fruit.

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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: TheApprentice]
    #17900715 - 03/04/13 12:27 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

no it's not true otherwise casing bulktrays would be a bad thing


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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: cronicr]
    #17900724 - 03/04/13 12:30 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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no it's not true otherwise casing bulktrays would be a bad thing





i say bubble wrap them bitches instead of casing!


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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: TheApprentice]
    #17900729 - 03/04/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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na man.  just do whatever.

i never dunked and rolled, but people do it. 

i just dunk and fruit.

good luck:zaphod:


yeah, it just made me want to put a really thin spaced out casing layer instead of really rolling it on there. although, i've seen pretty covered cakes.
maybe that dude was just saying something he didn't know anything about trying to sound smart


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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: crabbier cannabis]
    #17900738 - 03/04/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

i say dunk your cakes and then crumble them bitches and mix with some pastuerized coir.

its fuckin easy.

and u can get coir at petco.

there is a link in my sig.


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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: cronicr]
    #17900742 - 03/04/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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no it's not true otherwise casing bulktrays would be a bad thing


i dont know anything about bulk really, this is my first grow. but im guessing it has a lot of verm.
so it shouldn't matter how much verm i cover the cakes in?
and is coarse or thin verm better?


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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: TheApprentice]
    #17900760 - 03/04/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

that's doing bulk right, in trays? with grain too, or just the coir?
from what i've read you can do bulk with hpoo or grains, do it in a tub, and it yields way more. but isn't there a lot more room for contams and such? i haven't gotten that far into it all yet, walk before run.


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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: crabbier cannabis]
    #17900771 - 03/04/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

i find that overmisting in general can"seal" cakes per say.example=say you mist your cake until it glistens then fan and then come back a couple hours later to mist again although you can still see visible moisture but you do it anyway. i like to give my cakes a couple hours after i can no longer see visible moisture before misting again to ensure that i'm getting evaporation off my cakes
as for your verm for the roll it's debatable but either should do fine
fine verm holds more water but you would have more verm sticking with course, i might even reccommend a combo of both


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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: crabbier cannabis]
    #17900774 - 03/04/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

check it out.  instead of the grains in the tek.  substitute your pf jars.

its ok.

trust me


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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: TheApprentice]
    #17900796 - 03/04/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)


hell yeah it's ok!


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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: TheApprentice]
    #17900807 - 03/04/13 12:51 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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check it out.  instead of the grains in the tek.  substitute your pf jars.

its ok.

trust me


yeah i just read it, that looks pretty badass. nice grow, it looked really simple. im definitely going to look more into it and try it after i see how these turn out.


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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: cronicr]
    #17900813 - 03/04/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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hell yeah it's ok!


damn that yours? what do you use to keep it humid, and where's the best place to put casings like that?


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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: crabbier cannabis]
    #17900827 - 03/04/13 12:57 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

i just pulled that out of a shotgun fruiting chamber to pick it
it was ground wbs used for pf cakes. used 3 cakes and i think 5 pints of straw/manure(one cake was a pint and there are 14 mushrooms missing from the pic)


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    #17900840 - 03/04/13 01:01 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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i just pulled that out of a shotgun fruiting chamber to pick it
it was ground wbs used for pf cakes. used 3 cakes and i think 5 pints of straw/manure(one cake was a pint and there are 14 mushrooms missing from the pic)


so the whole time it was in the sgfc, you just mist and fan like you would pf cakes?
and you said you used 3 cakes, like crumbled them and put it in with the straw/manure mix?
also how big were the other cakes?


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    #17900868 - 03/04/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

just half pints, yeah i just pasturized my sub and crumbled my cakes
didn't turn out the way i planned as i should have dunked my cakes first but i accept it as a success.(my sub was noticeably dry in a couple days=more misting) it's very easy to do and with the help from people on here you should not fear bulk but embrace it lol


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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: crabbier cannabis]
    #17900878 - 03/04/13 01:16 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

how do you pasturize substrate?
and where do you get the tin tubs like that?
yeah it all seems simple, just a little more reading i have to do.
and like i said, still first grow, wanna see how this goes before bulk


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    #17900894 - 03/04/13 01:22 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: cronicr]
    #17900928 - 03/04/13 01:36 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

its getting late so im gonna look at that tomorrow, im excited to start bulk. especially after reading oatmans grow log he talked about, 300g+ dry on 6 tubs i think.


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Re: thought i saw this posted once, but couldnt find it. can misting w/ rolled cakes "seal" them? [Re: cronicr]
    #17900933 - 03/04/13 01:37 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

and as for the tubs i would recommend plastic, the baking trays will end up with holes in them and are pretty much disposable, but they cost like 3-4 bux and for that price i can go to the dollar store and get 3 plastic ones that i won't have to throw out


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