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Offlinegratefulskinny
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Ark. police photograph license plates, store data
    #17895653 - 03/03/13 01:55 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

fucked on so many levels. lazy ass cops

http://news.yahoo.com/ark-police-photograph-license-plates-store-data-180420324.html

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — Little Rock may not be a likely terrorism target or a gang crime hotspot, but the Arkansas capital has decided to follow the example of high-security cities by expanding electronic surveillance of its streets.

A police car with a device that photographs license plates moves through the city and scans the traffic on the streets, relaying the data it collects to a computer for sifting. Police say the surveillance helps identify stolen cars and drivers with outstanding arrest warrants.

It also allows authorities to monitor where average citizens might be at any particular time. That bothers some residents, as well as groups that oppose public intrusions into individual privacy. The groups are becoming more alarmed about license plate tracking as a growing number of police departments acquire the technology.

Though authorities in Washington, D.C., London and Chicago conduct extensive electronic surveillance of public areas to detect security threats or deter gang crime, "Today, increasingly, even towns without stoplights have license plate readers," said Catherine Crump, a New York-based staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union.

In Little Rock, even some city officials wonder about keeping data on drivers' movements.

"It bothered me particularly if someone wasn't guilty of a crime or didn't have any active warrants or hadn't committed a crime," city director Ken Richardson said.

However, Little Rock Police Chief Stuart Thomas said the law enforcement benefits outweigh any concerns about possible abuse of the information, which, as a public record, is legally available for anyone to see. He said the department may get more of the devices.

"Should that potential of misuse therefore eliminate the capacity of law enforcement to collect data which has a legitimate purpose for the safety of our officers or the appropriateness of enforcement actions? I don't think so," he said.

Little Rock police bought the tracker last year for about $14,000, as interest in the technology began spreading in law enforcement circles. The purchase didn't require city council approval and didn't attract much attention in town.

"There was no public notice or anything," police spokeswoman Sgt. Cassandra Davis said.

Richardson said he didn't hear about the device until after it had been collecting data for months. He said he said he hasn't heard many complaints.

"It's hard for you to have a problem with something if you don't know it's going on," he said.

Many Little Rock residents apparently still haven't heard about the surveillance. Angel Weston, 45, said she's glad to hear that police are looking for stolen cars and people with warrants but wondered about keeping logs of citizens' movements.

"I don't feel like they should keep the data for six or 12 months," Weston said.

Lawmakers in several states, including Minnesota and Utah, have suggested setting a time limit for their departments, but Little Rock has no policy yet. The department now has a growing archive of license plate photos, along with time stamps and the locations, showing where motorists were at certain times.

Privacy advocates worry about the potential uses for such outside law enforcement, from snooping by stalkers and private investigators to businesses that sell personal data.

"Given how few rules are currently on the books to protect our privacy, it's plausible that private investigators and data-mining companies could acquire this location data," Crump said. So far, the organization has requested more information from government agencies, but hasn't filed any lawsuits, Crump said.

Little Rock's license plate reader is mounted in Officer Grant Humphries' patrol car. He said it's led to dozens of arrests and the recovery of a number of stolen vehicles and vehicles and license plates, although the exact number isn't known.

As Humphries drives around town, a laptop processes the license plate numbers being photographed and emits a sound and flashes red when it finds a match.

On a recent drive, Humphries fell in behind an SUV and pulled it over after the laptop went off.

Moments later, he and another officer arrested passenger Montague Martin, who was wanted on outstanding warrants.

As he sat handcuffed in the back of the patrol car, Martin said he thought the license plate reader was a good idea.

"I'm not mad at what they're doing," Martin said before Humphries drove him to jail. "They're doing their job. I just didn't pay my ticket on time."

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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: gratefulskinny]
    #17895683 - 03/03/13 02:02 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Fuck America.  It is nothing like what it once was and purports to stand for.


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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: bourgeo]
    #17895874 - 03/03/13 05:37 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I feel so much safer now..


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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: bourgeo]
    #17895926 - 03/03/13 06:15 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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bourgeo said:
It is nothing like what it once was and purports to stand for.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_lie

My elders have spoken frankly with me, and I have read critically from their elders. Noone seems to have actually been alive, during this mythical time in history.

:shrug:

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Many Little Rock residents apparently still haven't heard about the surveillance.




Higher off the ground than most, I could plainly see them lingering behind me, on the diagonal, watching a monitor, in the corner of their eye.

:rolleyes:

I was watching out for these drivers, who seem to be so blissfully unaware.

The I-60 of 10-15 years ago.

Favored quotas reported driving to LA, every day-- without tags, insurance, or ID, during this period of conspicuous monitoring.

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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: durian_2008]
    #17896462 - 03/03/13 09:40 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

anyone think this is good

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Police say the surveillance helps identify stolen cars and drivers with outstanding arrest warrants




and this is bad

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It also allows authorities to monitor where average citizens might be at any particular time.




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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: hidenseek1]
    #17896641 - 03/03/13 10:43 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Paraphrasing Thoreau.....when the state becomes unjust, the only place for a just man is prison.

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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: joshisstoned]
    #17896795 - 03/03/13 11:17 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

here's what gets me

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,




this is an excerpt from the actual Declaration of Independence, a historic legal document.  People don't study it much anymore but they should.  It's all there, plain as day, black and white;

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whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,




the current Government seems to have forgotten about this little caveat.


WE THE PEOPLE need to exercise our rights


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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: travelleler]
    #17896817 - 03/03/13 11:21 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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travelleler said:
here's what gets me

Quote:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,




this is an excerpt from the actual Declaration of Independence, a historic legal document.  People don't study it much anymore but they should.  It's all there, plain as day, black and white;

Quote:

whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,




the current Government seems to have forgotten about this little caveat.


WE THE PEOPLE need to exercise our rights



well, what's your battle plan?

steps this country is making towards a police state are truly astounding.


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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: travelleler]
    #17896824 - 03/03/13 11:22 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)



Go back to sleep America


travelleler's gonna be the next terrorist of the state :lol:


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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: eyedea]
    #17896851 - 03/03/13 11:27 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

it's true. I am.  I will bring you all to your knees and make you take bong hits with me :evildog:


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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: gratefulskinny]
    #17897154 - 03/03/13 12:35 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Richardson said he didn't hear about the device until after it had been collecting data for months. He said he said he hasn't heard many complaints.

"It's hard for you to have a problem with something if you don't know it's going on," he said.



FUCKING ASSHOLES


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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: joe666]
    #17897696 - 03/03/13 02:25 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)


so good.:cool:


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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: Absent Minded]
    #17897717 - 03/03/13 02:28 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

lol what is that from?


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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: eyedea]
    #17897772 - 03/03/13 02:39 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

it's from a movie called "They Live"
every time he's wearing those shades he can see the "true" nature of the world.
check it out


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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: joe666]
    #17897788 - 03/03/13 02:42 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Richardson said he didn't hear about the device until after it had been collecting data for months. He said he said he hasn't heard many complaints.

"It's hard for you to have a problem with something if you don't know it's going on," he said.



FUCKING ASSHOLES



Exactly. This is just the "conditioning" phase that we are currently in. This shit has been going on for a while. Check out the bluffdale data center in utah. In theory it will be able to crack all encryptions that they have been storing for decades. Unveiling loads and loads of shit. Dumptrucks upon dumptruck full of shit. It's the most powerful computer on the planet and it is going to slice and dice your personal life in a fraction of a second.

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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: gratefulskinny]
    #17897826 - 03/03/13 02:50 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

it's all about drugs, everything they do is just effort toward arresting somebody for drugs

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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: thirtygoats]
    #17897957 - 03/03/13 03:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

They should just call it citizen tracking, won't be long before you can put someone name in google and have a map-dot on all the local places they frequent - freaky.

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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: B0b0]
    #17898052 - 03/03/13 03:30 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think this is going to end until the whole world is on government food rations in a highly controlled military guarded 100% surveillance socialist nightmare.


1984? try 2084


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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: NWlight]
    #17898065 - 03/03/13 03:32 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Tin foil hat parade? Jk. We are all fucked in the u.s.

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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data (moved) [Re: gratefulskinny]
    #17898647 - 03/03/13 05:51 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

This thread was moved from Shroomery News Service.

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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: NWlight]
    #17899001 - 03/03/13 07:03 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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NWlight said:
I don't think this is going to end until the whole world is on government food rations in a highly controlled military guarded 100% surveillance socialist nightmare.


1984? try 2084



Try 2030 lol. At the rate that they have been moving this agenda along ? dude they have passed some pretty heavy shit lately. NDAA, assault rifle executive order, 30,000 drones over the U.S before the end of the year... Shit is getting sketch-ee.

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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #17899039 - 03/03/13 07:10 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

:paranoid:


And the more you study this kind of shit the worse it gets.


the world elite is fucking us balls-deep and the TV just says to keep smiling


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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: NWlight]
    #17899052 - 03/03/13 07:12 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Oh yeah. I believe it was Benjamin franklin said that (paraphrase) "those that would shred personal liberty for safety deserve neither".

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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: NWlight]
    #17899666 - 03/03/13 08:49 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Oh yeah. I believe it was Benjamin franklin said that (paraphrase) "those that would shred personal liberty for safety deserve neither".



Fucking golden.

Quote:

NWlight said:
:paranoid:


And the more you study this kind of shit the worse it gets.


the world elite is fucking us balls-deep and the TV just says to keep smiling




It just sucks doesn't it ? and it's nothing new. Tyranny, suffering, war etc has gone on since humans have been around. I guess it's just our time. America hasn't. I wonder if at any point in the future, I mean any point (thousands or millions of years even) if the humans will loose the desire for power and control. Atm I don't think so.

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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: joshisstoned]
    #17899997 - 03/03/13 09:35 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

joshisstoned said:
Oh yeah. I believe it was Benjamin franklin said that (paraphrase) "those that would shred personal liberty for safety deserve neither".





THIS. :thumbup:


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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: travelleler]
    #17921762 - 03/07/13 09:36 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.npr.org/2013/03/07/173176488/the-big-data-revolution-how-number-crunchers-can-predict-our-lives

"It goes too far when we start making predictions for things that we have not yet done but we have the propensity to do — for example, commit a crime. If Big Data correlations identify me as a 44-year-old male who's a journalist and who has grand eyes for things I can't afford, it may think that I'm going to be susceptible to embezzlement, and maybe I will get a knock on the door by the police, who say, 'We have reason to believe that you're about to commit a crime.' This is sort of like pre-crime in [the film] Minority Report.

"... Now, will that be the case, will we go down that route? Frankly, we already are. There's a whole branch of criminology called algorithmic criminology, and a dimension called predictive policing ... police forces in many cities in America are crunching the numbers and looking at where the likelihood of a crime is going to be, and when, based on the past patterns of crime. And now we can say not just that a crime is going to exist in an area, but that these people have a, say, 80 percent likelihood to be a felon.

"We have judicial systems that presume you have acted and therefore we are going to penalize. We've never had a system whereby we're making predictions about your likelihood, your propensity to do something, before you've actually acted, and therefore we're going to take remedial steps against you."


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Re: Ark. police photograph license plates, store data [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
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