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Anonymous #1
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Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question
#17892521 - 03/02/13 02:34 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have recently been scammed by a silk road vendor for a good amount of money when I was soliciting a purchase for an unscheduled chemical. As he wasn't very careful, I was able to track down his many emails, full name, phone number, home address, facebook, family addresses, etc. This vendor runs a sizable business using both clearweb and deepweb dealing with mostly schedule 1 substances.
My question is what is the legality on my side of giving up all his information, proof of illegal activity, etc to law enforcement, perhaps in his home town?
Of course I'd first want to try and blackmail him with his info, and just get my money back and forget about it. But then whats the legality of me blackmailing? Also, he's not a super kingpin, just a normal guy, so he isnt going to come kill me in my sleep.
Will an anonymous tip about a large nationally operating drug vendor be of any use to the law in making life hard for this guy?
Edited by Anonymous (03/02/13 03:14 PM)
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Anonymous #2
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Re: Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Anonymous #1]
#17892656 - 03/02/13 03:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should Obviously black mail him for money and drugs.
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Anonymous #3
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Anonymous #1]
#17893402 - 03/02/13 05:46 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why do you think you were defrauded? I thought that once and then got a customs letter a month later informing me my contraband had been seized. Even if that's not the case maybe you should try asking the vendor to reship your parcel and explain that you never received it. You seem like you're thinking about drastic action when there's no need to. Even if you were defrauded at least it was by mail and bot by a mugger with a gun to your head. I'd let it go anyway because I can't see any benefit to informing authorities that you have been ordering contraband substances. That could really backfire on you. Your whole plan actually seems poorly thought out to me.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Anonymous #3]
#17893635 - 03/02/13 06:31 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous said: Why do you think you were defrauded? I thought that once and then got a customs letter a month later informing me my contraband had been seized. Even if that's not the case maybe you should try asking the vendor to reship your parcel and explain that you never received it. You seem like you're thinking about drastic action when there's no need to. Even if you were defrauded at least it was by mail and bot by a mugger with a gun to your head. I'd let it go anyway because I can't see any benefit to informing authorities that you have been ordering contraband substances. That could really backfire on you. Your whole plan actually seems poorly thought out to me.
point taken. i am positive it was a scam because someone told me that he was laughing about how he just made off with some money on a private forum. im definitely going to lay it out for him and give him a chance to refund me, but im pissed and itching to use my dirt on him.
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Anonymous #1] 2
#17895139 - 03/02/13 11:40 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Never snitch. If you desire retribution, take it! Are they in the same country? Sit back and think very long and hard about a way to get your money back. Set up a deal he can't refuse and rob his ass. But never, ever snitch. Go do some dirt if you want, but don't let the boys in blue do it for you. That is so fucking low and ridiculous. If you don't want to get retribution yourself then drop it.
When you buy/sell/generally deal with illegal commodities, you must account for robbery, arrest, and things not going smoothly. Snitching is a habit. Don't start. It may not be some anonymous dude next time.
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Anonymous #3
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: joshisstoned]
#17895299 - 03/03/13 12:15 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was unaware that reporting a theft was snitching. Snitching is when a person rats on their partner in crime. Would you consider reporting a rape snitching too? Should a woman just not call the cops because they can't unrape her, lol. She should just handle it and rape the guy back? lol And how about child molesters? Maybe the kids should just handle it by suppressing the feelings that go with being molested every day? Your idea of what snitching is is fucked.
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Anonymous #4
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Anonymous #1]
#17895320 - 03/03/13 12:19 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Careful, if you ordered from him that means that he has your name/address too and he is likely to give you a bad name and/or get people to beat the shit out of you.
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Anonymous #3]
#17895322 - 03/03/13 12:19 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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If she was a hooker selling illegal pussy, she won't call the cops even if I wanted her to. Your trying to turn dude in. End of story. Your doing what they do to elementary school kids to get them to snitch on each other. " snitching and reporting are two different things". Bullshit. I've had my house broken into and I don't call the cops. I went and got my shit back. The cops are for when someone's coming to your house with an assault rifle. Not telling on a guy who got you on the Internet. Really?
So rape and drug dealing are comparable? Come on man.
Either way, man the fuck up.
Edited by joshisstoned (03/03/13 12:20 AM)
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: joshisstoned]
#17895354 - 03/03/13 12:26 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you are a victim of a crime pressing charges is not snitching is my point. I am white and from the suburbs and I will call the cops. If you are a shopkeeper and someone comes in and holds you up is it snitching when you give a description of the car to the cops and the surveillance tape to the DA? What if you had illegal spice under the counter too? I just don't see where you're coming from. Snitching is turning in or giving evidence or testimony your accomplices or friends you do stuff with. It has nothing to do with reporting a crime you're the victim of. Taking violent criminals off the streets is a good thing.
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Anonymous #3]
#17895450 - 03/03/13 12:55 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's just different degrees of snitching. I always go by the jail rule. Would you be a snitch in prison? Ohhhhhhhh yeah! I've never needed cops in my life. Ever. That's what guns are for. I can handle a firearm also. Cops shouldn't be used for retribution as you are attempting. You call them when violence is happening to innocent victims if you're too pussy to do something about it. Anonymous.....if you were so steadfast, you'd post under your name.
Go ahead. Let everyone here know who you are and see what type of reception you get. Snitch.
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Anonymous #3
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: joshisstoned]
#17895472 - 03/03/13 01:01 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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So you're saying you'd let the child rapist go free rather than turn them in?
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Anonymous #3]
#17895491 - 03/03/13 01:07 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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How would I be the only one to know he was a child rapist? If I caught them raping a child, I'd stomp their guts out. The police would show up due to the amount of noise and blood from the shooting/beating. I don't see how child rape has anything to do with you bellyaching over losing money on drugs. Apples and oranges man.
So I'm done with you. Don't snitch. That would make you a piece of shit. Does that answer your initial question? If not, you were gonna tell all along. Rate me so I know who you are. I can't. E associated with people like you.
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Anonymous #4]
#17896593 - 03/03/13 10:25 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: Careful, if you ordered from him that means that he has your name/address too and he is likely to give you a bad name and/or get people to beat the shit out of you.
Exactly. And not just this-- but if you try to blackmail him for product, it's possible he could do something to give the contents of the package away-- being purposely careless or whatever... or he could just straight up send you a package and put in his own anonymous tip.
Just be careful how you handle this...
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: CidneyIndole]
#17899020 - 03/03/13 07:07 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Get bent OP. Stick to watching football instead of being involved with drugs.
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: CounterCulturest]
#17899033 - 03/03/13 07:09 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Agreed.
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Anonymous #1]
#17899135 - 03/03/13 07:26 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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It should go without saying that you should never, ever, ever snitch. Snitches are the absolute worst of humanity. Yes, he ripped you off, but that doesn't mean that he deserves to spend years or even decades of his life in jail.
How would you feel if someone snitched on you? The fact that he ripped you off doesn't matter, you're talking about ratting someone out which is so much worse on so many different levels.
I shouldn't have to spell it out for you. Don't snitch.
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: nooneman]
#17899250 - 03/03/13 07:44 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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I should point out now that most "snitching" is done to retaliate against people that are rip off artists or business competitors. One more reason to do business the right way...
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Ellis Dee]
#17899295 - 03/03/13 07:53 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't get me wrong, ripping people off is absolutely wrong, but snitching is worse. Ripping people off leaves those people out maybe a couple hundred, but snitching can leave people in jail for years or decades, with permanent felony records, possibly have children taken away, lose their jobs, lose their houses/cars/everything.
If someone rips you off, you should really just never buy from them again, and warn others not to buy from them. Also, a good punch to the face or two or three never hurts. Or if they have a car, maybe they find it doesn't have windows one day. There are other solutions aside from snitching.
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Anonymous #1]
#17899881 - 03/03/13 09:16 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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So you got ripped off doing something dumb like trying to buy drugs over the internet. That just makes you a sucker, and smart suckers can learn from their mistakes.
If you snitch this guy out, you will be a rat for life. A rat is the lowest, dirtiest most diseased creature to ever crawl.
Don't be a rat.
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Anonymous #3]
#17901707 - 03/04/13 09:00 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are you going to tell the cops that you gave this guy X dollars for drugs and he didn't deliver?
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Anonymous #5]
#17902824 - 03/04/13 01:29 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well anonymous #1..... I think you have your answer.
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: joshisstoned] 1
#17958781 - 03/15/13 02:27 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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agree with all above comments about snitching but nargles tiger is right IM2HE.
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Re: Blackmailing/Snitching on vendors, legal question [Re: Anonymous #3]
#17963505 - 03/16/13 06:51 AM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: I was unaware that reporting a theft was snitching. Snitching is when a person rats on their partner in crime. Would you consider reporting a rape snitching too? Should a woman just not call the cops because they can't unrape her, lol. She should just handle it and rape the guy back? lol And how about child molesters? Maybe the kids should just handle it by suppressing the feelings that go with being molested every day? Your idea of what snitching is is fucked.
You think snitching is just when you rat out a partner in crime? Fuck no. It's when you rat someone out for YOUR benefit, and solely of that. You were not helping a single person other than yourself, not that person, not society, no other causes involved.....you were a selfish fuck....and it gave you personal gain in some way shape or form, whether it be freedom, cash, revenge, pure spite........
Turning someone in for a crime is helping someone find justice.....it is helping the good of the community.....stopping someone who is physically or emotionally causing harm to people, and planning on continuing to do such. A rapist, a serial killer, a kidnapper, someone taking advantage of someone who can't save themselves ( elderly etc ).
Some dumbass kid on the internet can seek "justice" in a way better way then incriminating himself, and calling the cops on a sketchy drug dealer. Maybe he can find justice by wising the fuck up, staying off shady websites like sr, and learning a valuable life lesson called "get the fuck over it"
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