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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #17886705 - 03/01/13 02:31 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

What are the exigent circumstances in these immigration stops? Did a little Mexican jump in your back windows, is there a lady giving birth in the seat, is your bag of weed sitting on the front seat?


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #17886717 - 03/01/13 02:33 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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k00laid said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
really? exigent circumstances... as I stated, it covers a lot of gound




exigent circumstances allows them to break down your door.

the door being locked or unlocked has nothing to do with the legality of the entry.





quit trying to obfuscate the argument with this nonsense

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k00laid said:
no. the door being locked is entirely unrelated to the legality of entering the home.




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Prisoner#1 said:
if the door was unlocked it's not illegal



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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #17886776 - 03/01/13 02:45 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
if the door was unlocked it's not illegal







this is incorrect.
the door being locked or unlocked is entirely irrelevant to whether or not the entry is legal.


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: k00laid]
    #17886784 - 03/01/13 02:46 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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k00laid said:
their job is against the law.




Whenever the word "law" appears in one of your posts, hilarity ensues.

Since when has it been against the law to be a border patrolman/cop/homeland security type?

Edit: I see someone beat me to it, yet I'll leave this post here since you clearly have little idea what is legal and illegal.


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #17886790 - 03/01/13 02:47 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

if you would read the thread instead of personally attacking me, you would know i admitted to phrasing it wrong.


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: k00laid]
    #17886802 - 03/01/13 02:49 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

You could read my edit.

I attacked nothing yet your lack of knowledge of the law would be an easy target.


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #17886816 - 03/01/13 02:52 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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I attacked nothing yet your lack of knowledge of the law would be an easy target.




except im totally right.
and pris is totally wrong.


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: Herbologist]
    #17886856 - 03/01/13 02:58 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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pretty cool that he has the balls to do that. but theyre just trying to do their job... fyi i only watched like the first
minute





fuck that, they are blatantly violating the 4th amendment.


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: k00laid]
    #17886866 - 03/01/13 03:00 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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k00laid said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
I attacked nothing yet your lack of knowledge of the law would be an easy target.




except im totally right.
and pris is totally wrong.




Of course you are.

Of course.


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: jammin]
    #17886902 - 03/01/13 03:06 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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to be more specific about DUI checkpoints, here's the US Supreme Court Case that proved its constitutionality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Dept._of_State_Police_v._Sitz





that proves that the SCOTUS is corrupt, not that its constitutional.


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: Shins]
    #17886904 - 03/01/13 03:06 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

i like you shins :smile: :flower:


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #17886905 - 03/01/13 03:07 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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koods said:
While sVs is right that a car is not a home, in terms of the expectation of privacy, or reasonableness of searches, opening a car door without consent is pretty fucking analogous to opening a front door to a house.





if the door was unlocked it's not illegal





BS

read the 4th amendment.


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: Shins]
    #17886910 - 03/01/13 03:08 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

k00laid said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
really? exigent circumstances... as I stated, it covers a lot of gound




exigent circumstances allows them to break down your door.

the door being locked or unlocked has nothing to do with the legality of the entry.





quit trying to obfuscate the argument with this nonsense

Quote:

k00laid said:
no. the door being locked is entirely unrelated to the legality of entering the home.




Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
if the door was unlocked it's not illegal






Quote:

k00laid said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
if the door was unlocked it's not illegal







this is incorrect.
the door being locked or unlocked is entirely irrelevant to whether or not the entry is legal.



Quote:

Shins said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

koods said:
While sVs is right that a car is not a home, in terms of the expectation of privacy, or reasonableness of searches, opening a car door without consent is pretty fucking analogous to opening a front door to a house.





if the door was unlocked it's not illegal





BS

read the 4th amendment.





he stopped responding to me.

i guess that means i lost. :hehehe:


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: trampis]
    #17886916 - 03/01/13 03:09 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck off and let the cop do his job. Stoners like this are annoying as fuck.


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #17886922 - 03/01/13 03:10 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Since when has it been against the law to be a border patrolman/cop/homeland security type?





since when does mexico start up to 100 miles inland of the border?

why are border guards operating up to 100 miles inland violating people's 4th amendment?


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: ThisIsKitty]
    #17886935 - 03/01/13 03:13 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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ThisIsKitty said:
Fuck off and let the cop do his job. Stoners like this are annoying as fuck.






systematically violating people 4th amendment 100 miles inland from the border all day long every day is not the job of border security.

their job is to enforce the law, not systematically violate it.


ignoramuses like this are destroying america.


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: k00laid]
    #17886937 - 03/01/13 03:13 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

k00laid said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
if the door was unlocked it's not illegal




this is incorrect.
the door being locked or unlocked is entirely irrelevant to whether or not the entry is legal.





once more "exigent circumstances"

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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #17886947 - 03/01/13 03:15 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

the door being unlocked is not an exigent circumstance.


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #17886951 - 03/01/13 03:16 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
once more "exigent circumstances"






an unlocked door alone does not constitute "exigent circumstances"  nor does it justify violating the 4th amendment.


there is no excuse to this blatant and systematic violation of your constitutional rights.

people should be outraged, not fumbling to make excuses, how unamerican.


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Re: Checkpoint refusals. . . [Re: Shins]
    #17886967 - 03/01/13 03:18 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

if you like those kinds of videos, check out this guy's youtube channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/RP4409?feature=chclk

they cover checkpoints a lot and some of those clips in the compilation are from this guy.


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