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theonlysun81
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I am currently an environmental resources management major and am interested in doing some kind of research on mushrooms in either a bioremediation process or as a candidate for use in biofuels as I read somewhere that mushroom breakdown more complex organic compounds and integrate 50% more of these compounds into their structure than bacteria and other plants. I was wondering where I could get started on research for the actual proposal? I know very little about biofuels in general, but am pretty well versed on the bioremediation process. But as far as muchrooms, all I really know is that they can make you trip. If any mycologists know of any specific strains that may have some potential in these areas I feel like that might be a good starting point.
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There is a mushroom that produces diesel, and i believe oyster mushrooms are used to filter oil spills and the like, and there is a fungus they are using for portable toilets that decomposes human waste
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are there specific strains that you know of?
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Well for research what would I do? Like we know it makes diesel, what would be the hypothesis? Maximizing yields?
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You could hypothesize on the commercial ability, or whether fungi played a major role in producing fossil fuels, or on maximizing yeilds.
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Hmmmmmmm.... I like the commercial ability. It seems like the most applicable/less complicated. So say the I get a grant for $3000 for it. It would be commercially viable if I made more than $3000 worth of diesel right?
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Absolutely. However, it requires a lab, and a specific tree I believe. I'm not positive on the growth parameters, but if it can break down cellulose like they claim, there could be a wide margin of profit, if it were able to be mass produced. If tou can, try and find a cellulose to diesel ration for the fungus. Then you can work out the math and see if there is profit.
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If it requires a certain tree to grow on than wouldn't it be a better research project, as far as for biofuels go, grow different strains of mushroom and determine the level of triglicerides in them. Or the rate in which they absorb cellulose?
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Very good idea, also take into account the hydrocarbon levels of different strains. Although in that article they mention it consuming cellulose and lignen, so it may just originate from that tree, and not require it.
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And as far as commercial viability, it is a whole hell of a lot more viable to only need to grow mushrooms and not have mushrooms that need a growing medium that is native to Patagonia am I right?
But what I would want to do is have a common control mushroom that is well known and put it against say 3 or 4 different strains. Maybe a novel one, like this one, a couple local ones or others, like oysters, that are already being used. And I want to see how well they uptake and integrate cellulose into their structures. So basically just grow them, maybe have a couple on a grow bed contaminated with hydrocarbons and than do spectroanalysis after they're fully grown to see how they faired.
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That sounds like a novel idea. However, i feel the hypothesis has changed. Are we hypothesizing on the bio diesel, or simply cellulose uptake? if you're leaning toward cellulose uptake, G Roseum may not be needed, whereas more common mushrooms may give you better results. Now if you are comparing hydrocarbon emmissions, then Roseum is still viable. maybe I just don't get what you're aiming for.
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Would an increase in cellulose uptake or hydrocarbon emmission make it a better candidate for a biofuel?
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that is a question not a hypothesis
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Does cellulose uptake effect hydrocarbon emissions? if so would it be a viable source of biofuel? then, which mushrooms play the greatest role in this conversion, and what is the best way to commercialize the product? i feel an excellent paper in the works.
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yesss I like it. It starts general and gets specific.
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But how would I determine if cellulose affects hydrocarbon emmission? would I simply add cellulose to soil and grow like corn and see if it yields more hydrocarbon?
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Perphaps use substrates with different cellulose and lignen contents, and measure and compare hydrocarbon emissions?
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theonlysun81 said: Hmmmmmmm.... I like the commercial ability. It seems like the most applicable/less complicated. So say the I get a grant for $3000 for it. It would be commercially viable if I made more than $3000 worth of diesel right?
I get involved in writing grants such as this through the local conservation district. You won't get a grant for an idea. You would first want to produce the fuel through your process to show the grant writers a small-scale model in actual operation. You could then seek funding to expand to commercial scale production. RR
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