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Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk
    #1788359 - 08/07/03 02:24 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Don't you just feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that your government cares so much? I say we lock up all of the poor, after all, if they're hard-up they must be willing to betray their country for a few bucks. From now on I think we should only trust rich people like some of our elected officials, they would never abuse their position for monetary gain. [/bullshit]

From AP:

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Government Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk Because of His Financial Struggle
By Michael Rubinkam
Associated Press Writer

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - In 19 years of using his security clearance to sweep floors at a plant owned by defense contractor Lockheed Martin, janitor Michael Lynch has done nothing to arouse suspicion.

Co-workers and bosses speak glowingly of Lynch, a brain-tumor survivor who's active in his church, building homes for poor people in Maine and West Virginia.

But because he and his family have struggled financially, the government now sees him as a threat to national security. Defense Department officials believe the janitor may be tempted to sell government secrets to get out of debt.

Last month, they asked a judge to revoke Lynch's security clearance.

Lynch, who considers himself a patriotic American, is fighting back. His lawyer calls the government's actions "outrageous" and asked Administrative Judge James A. Young to allow Lynch to keep his clearance. A decision is expected by Labor Day.

Although Lockheed has promised Lynch a job even if he loses the clearance, "It's a matter of pride for him," said his attorney, James Katz. "The notion that this individual would pose a security threat is just extraordinary to me."

The Defense Department didn't respond to a request for comment.

"Mr. Lynch has been here for many years. He's been a dedicated employee and that's something we recognize," Lockheed spokesman Ken Ross said.

Lynch's troubles began shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks, when an official reviewing Lynch's security clearance began raising questions about a 1993 bankruptcy, an unpaid tax bill and some discrepancies on paperwork that Lynch filled out in 1999.

By January of this year, the department had concluded that Lynch, who makes $16.85 an hour sweeping floors at Lockheed's plant in Moorestown, N.J., was a threat and moved to revoke his clearance.

Defense Department policy states that "an individual who is financially overextended is at risk of having to engage in illegal acts to generate funds." The policy says that a history of financial trouble and an "inability or unwillingness to satisfy debts" are among factors that could raise security concerns.

But the 1992 directive also says that officials should take into consideration whether the financial trouble was recent, or caused by a hardship beyond the applicant's control, when deciding to either grant or revoke clearance.

Lynch, a former cabinet maker, was out of work for three years after surgery in 1981 to remove a brain tumor. When he was well enough, he got a job at the radar and missile guidance systems plant, then owned by RCA but later acquired by Lockheed Martin.

The Lynches ran into severe financial problems in the early 1990s after his wife, Kay, stopped working to help their blind daughter, Christy, with her studies. The family couldn't make ends meet on Michael Lynch's wages and declared bankruptcy.

Kay Lynch eventually went back to work, but quit again after Christy was accepted to Temple University's music program. Again finding themselves short of money, the Lynches decided to pay their daughter's tuition instead of city wage taxes, which Lockheed did not deduct from Michael Lynch's paycheck.

Katz acknowledged the decision was a bad one. But he said the family has since paid $7,000 toward their tax bill - most of what they owe. "Ironically, he's in better financial shape than he's ever been," Katz said.

The government also accuses Lynch of lying on his security clearance application. When Lynch updated the application in 1999, he erroneously said he hadn't filed for bankruptcy in the past seven years and hadn't had a debt older than 180 days.

Katz said Lynch simply made a mistake. A letter from Lynch's neurologist says that because of his physical condition, he has trouble with dates.

Lynch, 50, who lives in a Philadelphia row house with his wife and two daughters, declined to comment.

Jeff Fogel, legal director for the Center for Constitutional Rights, said Tuesday that Lynch has been treated poorly.

"The government is certainly overdoing it. They are leaping to conclusions that are just not there," Fogel said. "You've got bureaucrats taking the approach that (it's better to be) wrong in this area than allowing someone who is a potential security threat."

At a hearing last month, Lynch's supervisor, James Numbers, testified that Lynch was an honest and conscientious employee. And co-worker Diane Carr told the judge she'd "trust Mike with my life," according to a newspaper account of the hearing.




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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: Edame]
    #1788374 - 08/07/03 02:28 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

*sigh*


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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: Edame]
    #1788386 - 08/07/03 02:31 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Our tax dollars at work.


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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: Edame]
    #1788393 - 08/07/03 02:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

That is total bullshit. This policy has the same flaw as zero tolerance policies. Things are not always black and white, and special circumstances should be looked at when evaluating each instance of something like this.


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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: Edame]
    #1788400 - 08/07/03 02:35 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

$16.85 an hour to SWEEP FLOORS?


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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: ]
    #1788422 - 08/07/03 02:40 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Isn't Lockheed a government contractor?  He's probably using one of those $500 brushes with teflon coated bristles and fingerprint ID too. :smile:


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The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
:tongue:

In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: Edame]
    #1788745 - 08/07/03 03:47 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

thats crazy...idk what else there is to say. at least his companies standing up for him.


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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: DellComputers]
    #1788916 - 08/07/03 04:38 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

DellComputers writes:

at least his companies standing up for him.

Ah... you are too trusting, my friend. There is more to this than first meets the eye.

Lockheed Martin is a huge corporation, and we all know how huge corporations exploit their workers -- for example by paying them seventeen bucks an hour to do janitorial work. Not only that, but Lockheed Martin is a government defense contractor. This is very important to remember. They make stuff that is used by the US military to invade other countries and steal their oil.

This whole thing has obviously been scripted by some bean-counter in Lockheed's accounting department who wants to fire Mr. Lynch and replace him with an illegal immigrant willing to work for minimum wage. Lockheed's supposed support for the guy is really just a clever disinformation campaign aimed at pacifying the unions. Lockheed's legal department has already made a secret agreement with the government prosecutors to phony up some testimony so Mr. Lynch will in fact be dismissed -- with regrets, of course.

Your problem is that you just don't understand how capitalism really works.

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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: Phred]
    #1788952 - 08/07/03 04:47 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

If what you just said actually happens (or something like it), I hope you post it here because I'd give you 5 shrooms. :smile:  I think that's an interesting viewpoint.


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The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
:tongue:

In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: Phred]
    #1788968 - 08/07/03 04:50 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i dont understand capitalism? because i said at least his companies standing up for him..? i know what lockheed is, and you dont seem to much besides how to tell a good story, unless somehow you have proof of that.


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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: DellComputers]
    #1788986 - 08/07/03 04:55 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I believe it is called sarcasm.


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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: Edame]
    #1789002 - 08/07/03 04:58 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Bad debt has always been a red light when getting a security clearance.

So is lying on your application.


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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: wingnutx]
    #1789049 - 08/07/03 05:15 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I think that his bad debts accumulated quite a while after he got clearance and started working there.

His application was actually an update, which the article mentioned was after he'd had brain surgery and it was known he wasn't good with dates. I wouldn't think that makes him a good spy candidate either.


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The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
:tongue:

In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: DellComputers]
    #1789056 - 08/07/03 05:17 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry to have used you as a straight man to twist the tail of the anti-Capitalist types who post here, Dell.

As shakta pointed out, the entire post was indeed an exercise in sarcasm.

pinky


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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: Edame]
    #1789083 - 08/07/03 05:26 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Ehh, they probably gave him the brain tumor too.


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Re: Gov't.Considers Lockheed Martin Janitor a Security Risk [Re: Phred]
    #1789469 - 08/07/03 07:18 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i see, lol sorry


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